Guest Rrrsh Report post Posted December 6, 2004 You have 10 matches to play with. You need at least 4 matches that include a SD wrestler and the same 4 RAW. Plus, no Brand trades, unlimited returns from injuries and a maximum of 2 Co-Brand matches. Give me what you THINK will happen and explain yourself beside each match. Also, if a turn has taken place, specify why. Heat matches are oiptional. World Title Match Randy Orton © vs. Chris Benoit Chris Benoit will ultimatly lose to Edge and Edge will become the champ. Edge will then give HHH a shot at the next PPV and then Orton a shot at the Royal Rumble, passing Benoit twice and never giving him a rematch. Orton will then win over Edge at The Royal Rumble. Benoit will ask for a title match and Orton said he will defintly think about it. Benoit then attacks Orton and leaves him in a pool of his own blood. Benoit reasoning was that this is the only way to get a fair shot and his justified rematch at the belt. Powerhouses Collide Batista vs. HHH During HHH Title match, Batista will interfere in HHH match and screw up. This causes HHH to explode at Batista the next night. Batista claim it was mistake, but will never back down to HHH and wont take his crap anymore. Batista quits Evo and a fued is born and built untill WM. Flair sides with HHH...for now. A Grudge Match Edge vs. Shawn Michaels How does Edge lose to Orton at the Royal Rumble? Enter HBK, getting revenge for Edge's attack at Taboo Tuesday. The fued leading up to WM will mirror Jericho/HBK from two years earlier. A Co Brand Battle of the Monsters Heidenrich and Snitsky vs, Undertaker and Kane This will be really stupid and really obvious. We all saw the Snitsky-Heidenrick thing. Heidenrick might play apart in Taker losing at Armagetton. Loser Leaves RAW The Rock vs. Chris Jericho The Rock will come back with about a month before WM and team with Jericho in the Main Event of said RAW. They will lose due to a mis-understanding and they start become more and more hostile. Fianlly, they go on a all-out Promo face off. They say RAW is only big enough for one of their mouths and egos. Jericho loses very gracefully and goes to Smackdown. Its a face vs face match. IC Title Match Shelton Benjerman vs Maven Very little build will be here. Shelton is the champ and Maven will be on a roll. Nothing special. WWE Title Match Kurt Angle © vs. John Cena John Cena will win the Royal Rumble and Angle will win the belt at the Rumble. Nuff said. US Title - No DQ Carlito © vs. RVD RVD's DVD will starting to gain momentum, so they will want RVD with the US belt. The fued leading up will start with RVD coming to save someone who is getting 2 on 1ed by Carlito and Jesus. It will be literally that simple. JBL vs. The Big Show JBL will go on a whining and bitching spree once he loses the belt. Big Show will take offence when JBL says in passing during a promo says that he defeated anyone who was important while he was champ. When Family Collides Eddie Guerrero vs Chavo Guerrero Eddie will win the strap at Armagetten and then lose it to Angle at The Royal Rumble. When he loses, Chavo will then be there for him and all that. Paul Heyman will then convince Chavo to turn on Eddy once they loses a Tag Title match to The Dudleyz. HEAT Rey and London vs Dudleyz © and/or Regal and Eugene © vs. Christian and Tomko Both Teams will be #1 Contenders by beating Team ECW and Renee amd Kenzo respectivly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Rrrsh Report post Posted December 6, 2004 EDIT- The Thread should say angles not angle. And starting, not stating. Somone change that please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toshiaki Koala 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2004 Maven vs. Benjamin actually sounds like a match Vince would book. "So... we've got all these black guys on the roster. What should we do with them?" "Just smush them together in the same match. That way nobody else has to wrestle them." "Brilliant!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Twisted Intestine 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2004 Maven vs. Benjamin actually sounds like a match Vince would book. "So... we've got all these black guys on the roster. What should we do with them?" "Just smush them together in the same match. That way nobody else has to wrestle them." "Brilliant!" lol, I've always noticed that black people tend to feud with black people very often... Maybe Vince is scared it'll be a hate crime otherwise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mandarin 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2004 Maven vs. Benjamin actually sounds like a match Vince would book. "So... we've got all these black guys on the roster. What should we do with them?" "Just smush them together in the same match. That way nobody else has to wrestle them." "Brilliant!" ..wait, Maven's black? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted December 6, 2004 No way can I book WWE realistic. I'd have HHH fired, Benoit defending against Jericho, and put all the Cruiserweights on the show. Undertaker will be jobbing to Funaki too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2004 Maven vs. Benjamin actually sounds like a match Vince would book. "So... we've got all these black guys on the roster. What should we do with them?" "Just smush them together in the same match. That way nobody else has to wrestle them." "Brilliant!" ..wait, Maven's black? Dumbass... Are you blind? Maven is a halfie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2004 But anyway, here would be my card... On the RAW side.. World Heavyweight Title HHH © Vs. Batista They already screwed up the Orton thing, and I think Batista is much more over then Orton rght now. Batista is the next big draw in the WWE IMO. World Tag Team Title Chris Jericho & Chris Benoit © Vs. Edge & Christian This could be a great rival and a great match The Rock Vs. Randy Orton Have Orton turn heel. He is a much better heel, and fued with The Rock could easily get him back to where he was before. I.C. Title Shelton Benjamin© Vs. Eugene Dinsmore Have Eugene turn heel and revel he is not really retarded. Make this fued similar to the fued Austin and Dude Love had in 1998. Womans Title Trish Stratus © Vs. Lita This one is pretty much set in stone. On the Smackdown side... WWE Title Eddie Guerrero © Vs. John Cena John Cena turns heel after he wins the rumble. Eddie Guerrero wins the title at Armageddon. U.S. Title Carlito Carribean Cool © Vs. Rey Mysterio Rey Mysterio could problay carry Carlito to a decent match. Carlito is very over and should be the U.S. Champ World Tag Team Match Luther Reigns & Mark Jindrak © Vs. Booker T & RVD Spice up the tag team divison on Smackdown Grudge Match John Bradshaw Layfield Vs. The Big Show During a tag match, Charlie Haas turns on the Big Show and joins Bradshaws stable. The Big Show vows to dismantle Bradshaws clique, he ends up beating every member of his stable(defeats Charlie Haas at No Way Out), and eventually gets Bradshaw. I would have Bradshaw go over the Show. It could be a very intense fued if written right. 6 Man Elimnation Match Cruiserweight Title Spike Dudley © Vs. Paul London Vs. Chavo Guerrero Vs. Billy Kidman Vs. Shannon Moore Vs. Nunzio Have Spike finally lose the CW title to Paul London here, and then after the match he freaks out on the Dudley Boys blaming them for him losing the title, and ends up smacking them both. Dudley Boys turn face by hitting him back and putting him through a table. RAW Vs. Smackdown Matches... Kurt Angle Vs. Shawn Michaels This HAS to happen in my opinion. This could be a CLASSIC. If both workers come to work. Snitsky & Henerich Vs. Taker & Kane Will be a stinkfest match(Hopefully short), but could be an interesting fued if written right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
geniusMoment 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2004 Smackdown Rey vs Eddie U.S title Angle vs HBK A potential classic (Move HBK to smackdown, as not appearing on the same show hurts a feud) London vs Ulitmo vs Kidman vs Spike in an elimination gauntlet match (similar to TNA) Jericho vs Cena WWE world title (Face Jericho beats heel Cena for the belt) Raw Damn, I do not really like anyone on the show other than Jericho and HBK. I guess just have: HHH vs Batista world title Mick Foley vs Flair (the promos would be amazing) RVD (As part of a trade for Jericho) vs Tommy Dreamer in an ECW style hardcore match (I actually think that this match would get some ECW fans to order) And the rest I do not give a fuck about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Shadow Behind You Report post Posted December 6, 2004 WWE Title Match John Bradshaw Layfield © Vs John Cena -I'd honestly have JBL extend his heel title run into WMXXI because he's the only legit heel on Smackdown after Kurt Angle and I got bigger plans for Angle. It's Cena's time. He's the #1 face on the show, Eddy and Taker have already done JBL and I doubt TBS/JBL would be a credible WM main event. Cena is a big enough face to give this spot to. World Title Match Chris Benoit © Vs Chris Jericho Simple as this; Benoit wins the title via Tournament at NYR and Jericho pretty much assumes since he's the one that set up the tournament, Benoit one of his close friends would grant him a shot but Benoit doesn't. This sets up the Jericho heel turn since his face run is bombing and Jericho turns on Benoit and leaves him for dead. Benoit agrees to give him the shot at WM. This gives for an Hot match and puts two great workers in the ring with each other. Triple H Vs Batistia Simply; Batista finally turns on Triple H and Flair aligns with Batista as well. Triple H's match will have the most Hype anyways, might as well make two major matches instead of one. Batista is more over and works better then Randy Orton whom has bombed in this role. Interpromotional Match #1 ICON VS ICON Kurt Angle Vs Shawn Michaels Kurt Angle has lost two straight WM main events for the title and he would do it for a 3rd time if he gets 'Taker or Eddy or Cena. This is really the only dream match left with WWE Employees. Angle doesn't need a rub and I dont want HBK vs another youngster again. How does it set up? Angle already verbally mocked Shawn at Series, Shawn returns at the rumble @ 29 and eliminates Angle whom drew #9 and was in position to win like he guranteed. Angle taunts HBK and HBK says "fuck it" and does an tope to eliminate himself and they brawl. Angle the next week demands a trade to Raw so he can get his hands on Shawn. Long says no. Shawn does same to Eric, he says no. They take shots at each other some more for a couple weeks and then Long/Bisch make a joint apperence on Raw to announce they set up a 3 match interpromotional series for WMXXI and one of those matches includes HBK Vs Angle. They are given a Zero Tolerance ruling, so they can't touch each other until WMXXI arrives. Hype it like they did Shawn and Bret; Training videos and such. They each have beaten the best but never met each other. Interpromotional Match #2 Legend Vs Legend Killer Randy Orton Vs Undertaker Instead of giving Orton an undeserved Main event title match and feeding UT another monster, Put the Legend killer against the dead man. Orton should turn again but stay solo this time. Why this match? Undertaker is a legend and his unbeaten record is huge and Orton wants to break it. 'Taker remarks he hates young punks like Orton. Orton wants to cement himself in the history books once again and dismantle the biggest legend in wrestling history at the biggest stage. Interpromotional Match #3 Gene Snitsky Vs The Big Show TBS is a special attraction performer now and instead of placing him in a battle royal just to show him off, take these two big men with big pushes against each other. Why these two? They are each show's respective monsters. I.C Title Match Shelton Benjamin © Vs Edge I know Edge got his whole "World Title" thing going on but he can't stay there and Benjamin should hold onto the IC Title leading into WMXXI. In reality; it's simply done to put two upper-carders on the card against each other and give another good match to work with. The angle is up to them. Luckily Shelton is bald, so no shampoo commercial. Coffee is still possible. U.S Title Match Ladder Match Eddy Guerrero Vs Rob Van Dam © -Some might not like Eddy being reduced to the mid-card but let's face it, He isn't going to Main event WMXXI and I think he should be in a meaningful match. They can do a respect angle out of this or perhaps even start turning one of these two but really it's just to have two workers that have a good history to give another solid good match on a big stage; yes the ladder match has already occured but people likely forgot it happened 3 years ago. Cruiserweight Title Match Fatal Four Way Elimination Billy Kidman © Vs Paul London Vs Nunzio Vs Mysterio -The two have a heated rivalry. Kidman beats Mysterio for the title (Mysterio wins at some point) at NWO and London emerges as the #1 contender by beating Nunzio on heat. London loses a title shot on the line match to Mysterio and Mysterio argues he deserves a title shot instead, so it's made a 3 way dance but In a Kidman/Nunzio Vs Mysterio/London tag match three weeks before WM but Nunzio gets the winning pinfall to receive a non title shot at Kidman and he wins that one. Sets up a fatal four way. Kidman shows he can beat Mysterio. Mysterio can beat London. London can beat Nunzio and Nunzio can beat Kidman. World Tag Title Match Eugene and William Regal Vs Rhyno and Tajiri © -I'd turn Rhyno and Tajiri. Just have Tajiri and Rhyno feign friendship with Eugene for a couple weeks and then when Regal leaves, they obiblerate Eugene and break him physically and emotionally. Regal is forced to defend the title alone on raw and fails to do such. Eugene makes a "miracalous" recovery and despite Doctors telling Eric that his nephew isn't able to control his violent tempers anymore, he doesn't care and books This match. Should be a good worked match with Tajiri and rhyno being good heels with the emotional story in eugene. WWE Tag Team Title Match Dudley Boyz © Vs Charlie Haas and Booker T -Yes Another randomly paired face team, a new WM Tradition. Simply gets two good workers on the card. Dudleys are stale but i'd take them over Rene and Kenzo. 20 Man Battle Royal Christian, Tomko,Conway, Grenier, Maven,Matt Hardy, Steven Richards, Kane, Hurricane and Rosey. Hardcore Holly, Kenzo, Rene, CCC, Spike, Chavo Guerrero, Jindrak, Reigns, Funaki and Jordan. Just puts on the low-carders on the show and gives them a paycheck. Rock will make an apperence somehow on here and cut a promo, Foley will work his way into a guest referee spot on this card. perhaps in the Angle/Shawn match. The Woman's program is dead. Have Trish create a Stable with Tajiri and Rhyno and Christian (bring those back but not as a couple. let them have that whole bitter ex type deal where Trish mocks Christian and vice versa but they need other for success). Lita can manage Matt again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted December 6, 2004 Odds of Ultimo Dragon making the WM Card? 1,000,000 to 1? Personally, I wouldn't put Undertaker against anyone who could beat him. His record should stand, as it's really the only thing he has going for him. His World Title reigns weren't too impressive (his best was when it was second fiddle to the HArt Foundation/Austin angle), he's never won a Rumble, and the only other thing he is well known for is squashing Kane 950,049,393 times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BHK 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2004 HBK vs. Rock or Angle Those are the only two "dream" matches left, we need one or both before they cease to be potential ***** clinics. and if JBL main events WM I'll cry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Shadow Behind You Report post Posted December 6, 2004 King Kong Bundy, Sgt. Slughter, Sid Vicious(twice!), Bam Bam Bigelow have Main evented WM. You can't honestly say Bradshaw is worst then those. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enigma 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2004 Having Rock in a Loser Leaves RAW match and the whole "this place isn't big enough for the both of us" is pointless seeing as how Rock is only on RAW one month out of the year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BHK 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2004 King Kong Bundy, Sgt. Slughter, Sid Vicious(twice!), Bam Bam Bigelow have Main evented WM. You can't honestly say Bradshaw is worst then those. Very good point. I stand corrected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slimm44 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2004 EDIT- The Thread should say angles not angle. And starting, not stating. Somone change that please. Nitpick much? Just kidding Orton vs HHH for the World Title Michaels vs Angle if HBK returns Brothers of Destruction - Kane and UT vs. Psycho muscle heads - Snitsky and Heidenriech. thats all i can think of for now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted December 6, 2004 WWE Title Match John Bradshaw Layfield © Vs John Cena -I'd honestly have JBL extend his heel title run into WMXXI because he's the only legit heel on Smackdown after Kurt Angle and I got bigger plans for Angle. It's Cena's time. He's the #1 face on the show, Eddy and Taker have already done JBL and I doubt TBS/JBL would be a credible WM main event. Cena is a big enough face to give this spot to. World Title Match Chris Benoit © Vs Chris Jericho Simple as this; Benoit wins the title via Tournament at NYR and Jericho pretty much assumes since he's the one that set up the tournament, Benoit one of his close friends would grant him a shot but Benoit doesn't. This sets up the Jericho heel turn since his face run is bombing and Jericho turns on Benoit and leaves him for dead. Benoit agrees to give him the shot at WM. This gives for an Hot match and puts two great workers in the ring with each other. Triple H Vs Batistia Simply; Batista finally turns on Triple H and Flair aligns with Batista as well. Triple H's match will have the most Hype anyways, might as well make two major matches instead of one. Batista is more over and works better then Randy Orton whom has bombed in this role. Interpromotional Match #1 ICON VS ICON Kurt Angle Vs Shawn Michaels Kurt Angle has lost two straight WM main events for the title and he would do it for a 3rd time if he gets 'Taker or Eddy or Cena. This is really the only dream match left with WWE Employees. Angle doesn't need a rub and I dont want HBK vs another youngster again. How does it set up? Angle already verbally mocked Shawn at Series, Shawn returns at the rumble @ 29 and eliminates Angle whom drew #9 and was in position to win like he guranteed. Angle taunts HBK and HBK says "fuck it" and does an tope to eliminate himself and they brawl. Angle the next week demands a trade to Raw so he can get his hands on Shawn. Long says no. Shawn does same to Eric, he says no. They take shots at each other some more for a couple weeks and then Long/Bisch make a joint apperence on Raw to announce they set up a 3 match interpromotional series for WMXXI and one of those matches includes HBK Vs Angle. They are given a Zero Tolerance ruling, so they can't touch each other until WMXXI arrives. Hype it like they did Shawn and Bret; Training videos and such. They each have beaten the best but never met each other. Interpromotional Match #2 Legend Vs Legend Killer Randy Orton Vs Undertaker Instead of giving Orton an undeserved Main event title match and feeding UT another monster, Put the Legend killer against the dead man. Orton should turn again but stay solo this time. Why this match? Undertaker is a legend and his unbeaten record is huge and Orton wants to break it. 'Taker remarks he hates young punks like Orton. Orton wants to cement himself in the history books once again and dismantle the biggest legend in wrestling history at the biggest stage. Interpromotional Match #3 Gene Snitsky Vs The Big Show TBS is a special attraction performer now and instead of placing him in a battle royal just to show him off, take these two big men with big pushes against each other. Why these two? They are each show's respective monsters. I.C Title Match Shelton Benjamin © Vs Edge I know Edge got his whole "World Title" thing going on but he can't stay there and Benjamin should hold onto the IC Title leading into WMXXI. In reality; it's simply done to put two upper-carders on the card against each other and give another good match to work with. The angle is up to them. Luckily Shelton is bald, so no shampoo commercial. Coffee is still possible. U.S Title Match Ladder Match Eddy Guerrero Vs Rob Van Dam © -Some might not like Eddy being reduced to the mid-card but let's face it, He isn't going to Main event WMXXI and I think he should be in a meaningful match. They can do a respect angle out of this or perhaps even start turning one of these two but really it's just to have two workers that have a good history to give another solid good match on a big stage; yes the ladder match has already occured but people likely forgot it happened 3 years ago. Cruiserweight Title Match Fatal Four Way Elimination Billy Kidman © Vs Paul London Vs Nunzio Vs Mysterio -The two have a heated rivalry. Kidman beats Mysterio for the title (Mysterio wins at some point) at NWO and London emerges as the #1 contender by beating Nunzio on heat. London loses a title shot on the line match to Mysterio and Mysterio argues he deserves a title shot instead, so it's made a 3 way dance but In a Kidman/Nunzio Vs Mysterio/London tag match three weeks before WM but Nunzio gets the winning pinfall to receive a non title shot at Kidman and he wins that one. Sets up a fatal four way. Kidman shows he can beat Mysterio. Mysterio can beat London. London can beat Nunzio and Nunzio can beat Kidman. World Tag Title Match Eugene and William Regal Vs Rhyno and Tajiri © -I'd turn Rhyno and Tajiri. Just have Tajiri and Rhyno feign friendship with Eugene for a couple weeks and then when Regal leaves, they obiblerate Eugene and break him physically and emotionally. Regal is forced to defend the title alone on raw and fails to do such. Eugene makes a "miracalous" recovery and despite Doctors telling Eric that his nephew isn't able to control his violent tempers anymore, he doesn't care and books This match. Should be a good worked match with Tajiri and rhyno being good heels with the emotional story in eugene. WWE Tag Team Title Match Dudley Boyz © Vs Charlie Haas and Booker T -Yes Another randomly paired face team, a new WM Tradition. Simply gets two good workers on the card. Dudleys are stale but i'd take them over Rene and Kenzo. 20 Man Battle Royal Christian, Tomko,Conway, Grenier, Maven,Matt Hardy, Steven Richards, Kane, Hurricane and Rosey. Hardcore Holly, Kenzo, Rene, CCC, Spike, Chavo Guerrero, Jindrak, Reigns, Funaki and Jordan. Just puts on the low-carders on the show and gives them a paycheck. Rock will make an apperence somehow on here and cut a promo, Foley will work his way into a guest referee spot on this card. perhaps in the Angle/Shawn match. The Woman's program is dead. Have Trish create a Stable with Tajiri and Rhyno and Christian (bring those back but not as a couple. let them have that whole bitter ex type deal where Trish mocks Christian and vice versa but they need other for success). Lita can manage Matt again. I like this scenario best, and I think this would be plausible without the stupid brand extension. As for the first scenario, why job Jericho cleanly to a part-timer? Who does that help? It's not like Rock needs the win, while Jericho certainly does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Rrrsh Report post Posted December 7, 2004 Because Jericho needs to find a way to go to SD and I really think Jericho is gonna get a match that matters. He always gets an interesting or Important angle going into WM. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericho2000Mark 0 Report post Posted December 7, 2004 King Kong Bundy, Sgt. Slughter, Sid Vicious(twice!), Bam Bam Bigelow have Main evented WM. You can't honestly say Bradshaw is worst then those. Bigelow and Slaughter were better wrestlers. Sid, Slaughter and Bundy were more credible main eventers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted December 7, 2004 World Heavyweight Championship Match Edge© vs. Randy Orton -Edge will beat Benoit for the vacant title at New Year's Revolution and Randy Orton will win the Royal Rumble match. Orton goes over here and wins the title in a VERY close match. They'll have a rematch at the following RAW PPV, only for HBK to make his return and cost Edge the title. RAW vs. Smackdown Match Gene Snitsky and Heidenreich vs. The Undertaker and Kane -This won't be a good match by ANY means, but it will give the hosses something to do besides squash cruisers. To maintain Taker's streak, the Brothers of Destruction go over. Hair vs. Hair Match Eddie Guerrero vs. John "Bradshaw" Layfield -After all the humiliating things JBL has done to him, Eddie will FINALLY get revenge against him. Eddie will beat JBL convincingly and then proceed to shave him bald. WWE Championship Match John Cena vs. Kurt Angle© -Cena will still have the US Championship at this point, and will be named the number one contender to the WWE Championship because of this. Angle will have won the WWE title from Booker T shortly after Booker wins the title at Armageddon. Cena goes over here and vacates the US title at the next Smackdown. RAW vs. Smackdown Match Shelton Benjamin vs. Charlie Haas -The Former World's Greatest Tag Team EXPLODES~! Benjamin would still be the IC champion here, but that title wouldn't be on the line. Benjamin goes over after a LONG, hard-fought match. Both men enter and leave this match as faces. Triple H vs. Batista -This is a grudge match between Evolution. Ric Flair would run interference for Triple H, but end up costing the Game the match. Enraged, Triple H would destroy Flair after the match. Nick Dinsmore vs. Chris Benoit -Eugene will turn on William Regal after they lose the tag team titles to the Hurricane and Rosey. Eugene will reveal himself to be an actor/wrestler named Nick Dinsmore who was hired to portray Eric Bischoff's "special" nephew. He says that this was done all in order to get ratings. Bischoff would express regret at doing this, and Dinsmore would attack him. Benoit will take exception to being played by Dinsmore and challenge him to a match at WrestleMania. Benoit forces Dinsmore to submit in the match, partly due to a run-in by Regal. Chris Jericho vs. Maven -Yes, I know there's no real reason for this match to be on the card, but I can't bear to leave Jericho off. Although Jericho would win, this match and mini-feud would be Maven's chance to run with the big dogs (assuming he can). I would give Maven a manager in the Coach to help him garner heat. WWE Tag Team Championship Match Mark Jindrak and Luther Reigns vs. Booker T and The Big Show© -Booker and Show will win the titles off of Kenzo and Dupree shortly after Booker loses the WWE title. Jindrak and Reigns go over here. The Dudley Boyz (including Spike) vs. Rob Van Dam, Rey Mysterio, and Paul London. -This is set up mainly to have London pin Spike, setting up a feud. Heat Matches Carlito Caribbean Cool vs. Chavo Guerrero -Carlito spits his apple on Chavo on an episode of Smackdown, thus resulting in this match. Carlito wins thanks to Jesus' interference. World Tag Team Championship Match Hurricane and Rosey© vs. Christian and Tyson Tomko -There's no real story behind this match, it's just for the titles. The super-heroes triumph here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest theanswer1824 Report post Posted December 7, 2004 call me crazy but: i'd like to see hhh vs flair for the world title. flair has cut awesome promos (i.e. 'you are not a legend...')and all these months we'd been teased about flair being dissed by hhh and not feeling himself. randy orton even cut a great promo saying 'deep inside your heart you know hhh isn't the best wrestler '. of course, they did the swerve with him turning on randy orton later on in the evening (maybe for a slow burn build). batista last night said there's only one world champion, and they were in flair's hometown although he never said his name. i understand hhh vs flair on raw was done in flair's backyard but that was to pay hommage. since it seems like evolution is going away soon, they should do the ultimate teacher vs. student at wrestlemanina with hhh dropping the title to flair. flair hasn't been in a high profile WM match in awhile, unless you count him vs. the taker at WM18. call me crazy but i think flair vs. hhh could be a good match, very old school, with the right build and promo work. flair would be over as a big time face in this match and the young kids would see what flair is all about. i know a lot here hhhate trips and bag on flair cause he's old but fuck it, he's entertained me since i was 6 and he hasn't stopped 20 years later. hhh vs. flair w/batista - world title orton vs. edge the rest i could really care about less since my dream matches would be a shuffling of the current rosters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Shadow Behind You Report post Posted December 7, 2004 HHH Vs Flair isn't even worth a 10 slot on Raw much less the Main event of WM in Los Angles, so it's not even Flair Country. That and Rock/Jericho Loser leaves town are tied for worst idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted December 7, 2004 Having Rock in a Loser Leaves RAW match and the whole "this place isn't big enough for the both of us" is pointless seeing as how Rock is only on RAW one month out of the year. And so is HBK it seems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest hhheld_down Report post Posted December 7, 2004 unfortunatelly i still think RKO/HHH is going to ME WMXXI as far as the wwe title, i wouldnt be suprised if thats not even defended as they obviously dont give a damn about it anymore Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Shadow Behind You Report post Posted December 7, 2004 Having Rock in a Loser Leaves RAW match and the whole "this place isn't big enough for the both of us" is pointless seeing as how Rock is only on RAW one month out of the year. And so is HBK it seems. How is that? He worked a Full time schedule from Winter 2002 to Taboo Tuesday. Yes he took a couple months off during this summer to sell the kane attack and rest a injury and is out now but he's been WAY much more of a constant presence then Rock has. HBK has been one of the main characters of raw for the last 2 1/4 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest kilometres Report post Posted December 8, 2004 Raw Matches Randy Orton v Triple H v Batista (special guest referee: Ric Flair) None of these guys win the belt at New Years Revolution, infact Orton and HHH go to a double DQ in the tourney due to interference from Batista. Then there is conflict between the three at RR which leads to the match. Orton is the face, HHH the heel and Batista a heel. I would give Batista the win over HHH and have Flair side with Batista. Edge v HBK (World Heavyweight Title) Edge wins the title at NYR over Beniot in the finals who challenges for a rematch at RR but loses. On the Raw after this HBK returns and starts a fued with Edge which leads to the match at WM. Edge wins and HBK moves on to Smackdown. Shelton v Rhyno v Christian v Taijri (IC Title) Basic build up where the other three want the belt going through NYR and RR. Rhyno has turned heel by WM and wins the title which is followed by an extended fued with Shelton. Trish &Molly v Lita &Victoria Lita holds the Womens title until Wrestlemania beating Trish at NYR and retains in a 4 way featuring the above women at the Rumble. At WM Matt Hardy returns and attacks Lita, aligning with Molly who goes on to fued with Lita. Inter-promotional Match 1 Snitisky &Heidenreich v Kane &Undertaker w/ Paul Bearer (Inferno Match) Slugfest built up by Heidenreich and Kanes returns to an uneventiful and predictable match. Inter-promotional Match 2 Y2J & Beniot v Guerreos Benoit and Eddie meet up at the Rumble and discuss their various title reigns and years which leads to Eddie getting jealous of Benoit longer reign and attacking him. Y2J backs up Benoit and Chavo backs up Eddie. Eddie pins Beniot when Y2J turns heel because of his lack on title reigns in the last year leading to a fued between the two. Smackdown Kurt Angle v John Cena (WWE Title) Cena wins the Rumble after Angle wins the title from Taker at the same event. Basic build up with Angle using his stable to beat Cena but ultimatley Cena wins the title before going on to fued with JBL. JBL v Big Show (Grudge Match) After JBL loses the title to Taker at Armageddon, he focuses his henchmen on Big Show in a No 1 contender match on Smackdown but Angle wins setting up Taker v Angle at RR. This enrages the Big Show which leads to the match at WM. CCC v Rey v RVD v Orlando Jordan (US Title) CCC beats Cena due to Angle interference soon after the Rumble. Similar to the IC match everyone wants the title. RVD wins and becomes cocky heel RVD fueding with Rey after WM. Bashems v Reigns/Jindrak v Dudleys v Funaki/Akio (WWE Tag Team Titles) Bashems beat RVD/Rey sometimes before the RR and then the Dudleys break free from Spike and turn face. Basically this match gets more people on the show. Reigns/Jindrak win and then fued with Dudleys. What do you think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest QUP2CME Report post Posted December 9, 2004 World Heavyweight Title HHH © Vs. Batista They already screwed up the Orton thing, and I think Batista is much more over then Orton rght now. Batista is the next big draw in the WWE IMO. Batista may be the next big draw but he is NO WAY more over than Orton at the moment. Orton is the most over face on Raw outside of HBK. Benoit and even Jericho's pops are not as big as Orton's. The RKO and Randy chants can now be heard at every venue Raw visits. Most of the pops Batista gets is because of Flair. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Just call me Dan 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2004 Batista may be the next big draw but he is NO WAY more over than Orton at the moment. Orton is the most over face on Raw outside of HBK. Benoit and even Jericho's pops are not as big as Orton's. The RKO and Randy chants can now be heard at every venue Raw visits. Most of the pops Batista gets is because of Flair. Good to see I'm not the only one who sees this about Orton. I am finding a hard time sympathising with his character and scratching my head at him aligning with so many faces he screwed over for so long, but the man is over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2004 RAW vs. Smackdown Match Gene Snitsky and Heidenreich vs. The Undertaker and Kane -This won't be a good match by ANY means, but it will give the hosses something to do besides squash cruisers. To maintain Taker's streak, the Brothers of Destruction go over. ^^ How are they going to bill this as a R vs S match? It's in effect R and S vs R and S. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted December 9, 2004 RAW vs. Smackdown Match Gene Snitsky and Heidenreich vs. The Undertaker and Kane -This won't be a good match by ANY means, but it will give the hosses something to do besides squash cruisers. To maintain Taker's streak, the Brothers of Destruction go over. ^^ How are they going to bill this as a R vs S match? It's in effect R and S vs R and S. Perhaps "Inter-Brand Match" would be a better term. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites