The Official Rose Bowl Thread

[Damaramu 0]

Rose Bowl: #4 Texas vs. #13 Michigan, 4:30/1:30 PM, ABC

 

And they still only won by 1 point?

Oh shut the hell up. It isn't as if Michigan is some terrible team that Texas should have rolled by 30. It was two very evenly matched teams that played THE game of the year...why nitpick?

Because everyone said Texas didn't deserve this game and was going to get rolled. Texas won and so everyone has to find a way to cover.

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

Yeah because they beat teams like Miami (OH) and UTEP. They'll have had an extremely weak bowl season overall if Oklahoma doesn't win the National Title. Especially when two of the teams in the higher up bowls were destroyed by teams that were crippled on offense.

[Guest bigm350]

Fuck. Michigan has got to adopt some kind of defensive system that can stop these fast, athletic QB's. Vince Young ran through them like nothing. It was pretty fucking pathetic to see all these Michigan players flailing and coming up with air every time Young ran the ball. I also didn't understand Michigan's play calling. They had 2 timeouts and let Texas kill the clock untill the final Field Goal. At least try to get the ball back one last time and air it out. This was the first time I've seen Texas play all year, and needless to say, their pass defense compares to Michigan's defense that has to contain a fast QB, they both suck. Damn Lloyd Carr.

[Damaramu 0]

Yeah because they beat teams like Miami (OH) and UTEP. They'll have had an extremely weak bowl season overall if Oklahoma doesn't win the National Title. Especially when two of the teams in the higher up bowls were destroyed by teams that were crippled on offense.

Just keep making excuses. You spent the whole season saying the Big XII was just a step above the Big East and now that they are proving you wrong you can't stand it.

Fact is that the 4th and 5th best teams in the conference got beaten by ranked opponents.

The 2nd and 3rd best teams beat highly ranked media darlings and poor little media darling Cal got fucking embarassed by "lowly" Texas Tech.

Big XII isn't overrated obviously and they proved it. End of story.

[Guest bigm350]

Rose Bowl: #4 Texas vs. #13 Michigan, 4:30/1:30 PM, ABC

 

And they still only won by 1 point?

Oh shut the hell up. It isn't as if Michigan is some terrible team that Texas should have rolled by 30. It was two very evenly matched teams that played THE game of the year...why nitpick?

Because everyone said Texas didn't deserve this game and was going to get rolled. Texas won and so everyone has to find a way to cover.

Taxas didn't impress me. Vince Young won that game for them. Cedric Benson looked overrated. The Texas defense is shit. It was Vince Young vs. Michigan.

[CanadianChris 0]

Yeah because they beat teams like Miami (OH) and UTEP.  They'll have had an extremely weak bowl season overall if Oklahoma doesn't win the National Title.  Especially when two of the teams in the higher up bowls were destroyed by teams that were crippled on offense.

Just keep making excuses. You spent the whole season saying the Big XII was just a step above the Big East and now that they are proving you wrong you can't stand it.

Fact is that the 4th and 5th best teams in the conference got beaten by ranked opponents.

The 2nd and 3rd best teams beat highly ranked media darlings and poor little media darling Cal got fucking embarassed by "lowly" Texas Tech.

Big XII isn't overrated obviously and they proved it. End of story.

My God...there's going to be three more days of this, isn't there?

 

You just burned through all your goodwill you earned in the CE folder in about twenty minutes.

[Guest bigm350]

On a sidenote, how the hell did OU put only 12 points on Texas earlier this year? Their defense is awful.

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

Yeah because they beat teams like Miami (OH) and UTEP.  They'll have had an extremely weak bowl season overall if Oklahoma doesn't win the National Title.  Especially when two of the teams in the higher up bowls were destroyed by teams that were crippled on offense.

Just keep making excuses. You spent the whole season saying the Big XII was just a step above the Big East and now that they are proving you wrong you can't stand it.

Fact is that the 4th and 5th best teams in the conference got beaten by ranked opponents.

The 2nd and 3rd best teams beat highly ranked media darlings and poor little media darling Cal got fucking embarassed by "lowly" Texas Tech.

Big XII isn't overrated obviously and they proved it. End of story.

God you are such an insufferable tard in these threads. I guess you have to pollute every college thread with Big XII man love now that you can't talk about Oklahoma. But I'm not going to bother discussing this anymore because it's not worth it with you.

[sfaJack 0]

Yeah because they beat teams like Miami (OH) and UTEP. They'll have had an extremely weak bowl season overall if Oklahoma doesn't win the National Title. Especially when two of the teams in the higher up bowls were destroyed by teams that were crippled on offense.

Dama never said the Big 12 NORTH was any good.

 

I'd say it's a pretty impressive bowl season for the Big 12 if OU wins Tuesday because that would be wins over Cal, USC, and Michigan. Not too shabby. What other conference can claim such a list this year?

[Damaramu 0]

Basically I've turned out to be right in these threads and now everyone can't handle that fact and they now have to resort to flamebaiting and going back on what was said earlier just b/c none of them can admit the Big XII is any good.

You guys are pathetic.

[CanadianChris 0]

Basically I've turned out to be right in these threads and now everyone can't handle that fact and they now have to resort to flamebaiting and going back on what was said earlier just b/c none of them can admit the Big XII is any good.

You guys are pathetic.

Ah, so you're a sore winner. Gotcha.

[Guest bigm350]

Yeah because they beat teams like Miami (OH) and UTEP.  They'll have had an extremely weak bowl season overall if Oklahoma doesn't win the National Title.  Especially when two of the teams in the higher up bowls were destroyed by teams that were crippled on offense.

Just keep making excuses. You spent the whole season saying the Big XII was just a step above the Big East and now that they are proving you wrong you can't stand it.

Fact is that the 4th and 5th best teams in the conference got beaten by ranked opponents.

The 2nd and 3rd best teams beat highly ranked media darlings and poor little media darling Cal got fucking embarassed by "lowly" Texas Tech.

Big XII isn't overrated obviously and they proved it. End of story.

My God...there's going to be three more days of this, isn't there?

 

You just burned through all your goodwill you earned in the CE folder in about twenty minutes.

Dude, the Big XII sucks; much like the Big Ten. There's OU and I guess Texas, then everybody else is shit. Texas didn't impress me at all. I kept hearing all week how Texas was going to blow Michigan out, and I beleived it. After seeing the Rose Bowl, Michigan should have won. If not for Vince Young, Texas would be on the level of a Colorado, or K-State.

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

Dama never said the Big 12 NORTH was any good.

 

And that's why everyone says the Big XII is overrated. You can't just take half a conference and say it's the greatest in college football when they get to beat up on a division of 6-5 teams.

[Damaramu 0]

Yeah because they beat teams like Miami (OH) and UTEP.  They'll have had an extremely weak bowl season overall if Oklahoma doesn't win the National Title.  Especially when two of the teams in the higher up bowls were destroyed by teams that were crippled on offense.

Just keep making excuses. You spent the whole season saying the Big XII was just a step above the Big East and now that they are proving you wrong you can't stand it.

Fact is that the 4th and 5th best teams in the conference got beaten by ranked opponents.

The 2nd and 3rd best teams beat highly ranked media darlings and poor little media darling Cal got fucking embarassed by "lowly" Texas Tech.

Big XII isn't overrated obviously and they proved it. End of story.

My God...there's going to be three more days of this, isn't there?

 

You just burned through all your goodwill you earned in the CE folder in about twenty minutes.

Dude, the Big XII sucks; much like the Big Ten. There's OU and I guess Texas, then everybody else is shit. Texas didn't impress me at all. I kept hearing all week how Texas was going to blow Michigan out, and I beleived it. After seeing the Rose Bowl, Michigan should have won. If not for Vince Young, Texas would be on the level of a Colorado, or K-State.

Yes and then Texas Tech beat the #4 team in the country that everyone says should've been in this game. No Texas Tech didn't just beat them, Texas Tech embarassed them.

[Guest bigm350]

Who's good in the Big 12? Besides OU, Texas, and maybe Texas Tech. who's good? Please don't say Texas A&M, Colorado, or Oklahoma State.

[Damaramu 0]

Who's good in the Big 12? Besides OU, Texas, and maybe Texas Tech. who's good? Please don't say Texas A&M, Colorado, or Oklahoma State.

And those 3 teams are obviously better than a lot of confernces in the country as they've run through the top teams from the Pac 10 and Big Ten. And now OU gets a chance to beat THE top team in the country.

So I'd say they're doing pretty good.

[Guest bigm350]

Yeah because they beat teams like Miami (OH) and UTEP.  They'll have had an extremely weak bowl season overall if Oklahoma doesn't win the National Title.  Especially when two of the teams in the higher up bowls were destroyed by teams that were crippled on offense.

Just keep making excuses. You spent the whole season saying the Big XII was just a step above the Big East and now that they are proving you wrong you can't stand it.

Fact is that the 4th and 5th best teams in the conference got beaten by ranked opponents.

The 2nd and 3rd best teams beat highly ranked media darlings and poor little media darling Cal got fucking embarassed by "lowly" Texas Tech.

Big XII isn't overrated obviously and they proved it. End of story.

My God...there's going to be three more days of this, isn't there?

 

You just burned through all your goodwill you earned in the CE folder in about twenty minutes.

Dude, the Big XII sucks; much like the Big Ten. There's OU and I guess Texas, then everybody else is shit. Texas didn't impress me at all. I kept hearing all week how Texas was going to blow Michigan out, and I beleived it. After seeing the Rose Bowl, Michigan should have won. If not for Vince Young, Texas would be on the level of a Colorado, or K-State.

Yes and then Texas Tech beat the #4 team in the country that everyone says should've been in this game. No Texas Tech didn't just beat them, Texas Tech embarassed them.

Well yeah, I'll give you that. But if they were so good, how come they weren't in a BCS game? Personally I think Cal sleepwalked through that game. They wanted the Rose Bowl but got shafted for the Holiday Bowl.

[Guest bigm350]

Who's good in the Big 12? Besides OU, Texas, and maybe Texas Tech. who's good? Please don't say Texas A&M, Colorado, or Oklahoma State.

And those 3 teams are obviously better than a lot of confernces in the country as they've run through the top teams from the Pac 10 and Big Ten. And now OU gets a chance to beat THE top team in the country.

So I'd say they're doing pretty good.

No way. SC will win by at least 10. Texas A&M, Colorado, and OK State have run through teams from the Big Ten. I don't think A&M and Colorado have played anyone from the Big Ten. And I think Ohio State whupped on OK State.

[Damaramu 0]

Yeah because they beat teams like Miami (OH) and UTEP.  They'll have had an extremely weak bowl season overall if Oklahoma doesn't win the National Title.  Especially when two of the teams in the higher up bowls were destroyed by teams that were crippled on offense.

Just keep making excuses. You spent the whole season saying the Big XII was just a step above the Big East and now that they are proving you wrong you can't stand it.

Fact is that the 4th and 5th best teams in the conference got beaten by ranked opponents.

The 2nd and 3rd best teams beat highly ranked media darlings and poor little media darling Cal got fucking embarassed by "lowly" Texas Tech.

Big XII isn't overrated obviously and they proved it. End of story.

My God...there's going to be three more days of this, isn't there?

 

You just burned through all your goodwill you earned in the CE folder in about twenty minutes.

Dude, the Big XII sucks; much like the Big Ten. There's OU and I guess Texas, then everybody else is shit. Texas didn't impress me at all. I kept hearing all week how Texas was going to blow Michigan out, and I beleived it. After seeing the Rose Bowl, Michigan should have won. If not for Vince Young, Texas would be on the level of a Colorado, or K-State.

Yes and then Texas Tech beat the #4 team in the country that everyone says should've been in this game. No Texas Tech didn't just beat them, Texas Tech embarassed them.

Well yeah, I'll give you that. But if they were so good, how come they weren't in a BCS game? Personally I think Cal sleepwalked through that game. They wanted the Rose Bowl but got shafted for the Holiday Bowl.

Good excuse but not true.

Why weren't they in the BCS? Because they played against OU and Texas who are better than they are.

[Damaramu 0]

Who's good in the Big 12? Besides OU, Texas, and maybe Texas Tech. who's good? Please don't say Texas A&M, Colorado, or Oklahoma State.

And those 3 teams are obviously better than a lot of confernces in the country as they've run through the top teams from the Pac 10 and Big Ten. And now OU gets a chance to beat THE top team in the country.

So I'd say they're doing pretty good.

No way. SC will win by at least 10.

I'm not allowed to comment on that till Tuesday. But I will come Tuesday.

[sfaJack 0]

Who's good in the Big 12? Besides OU, Texas, and maybe Texas Tech. who's good? Please don't say Texas A&M, Colorado, or Oklahoma State.

How many of the other conferences have more than two "good" teams?

 

That's why this whole debate is pointless--because there is no clear cut power conference.

[CanadianChris 0]

Yeah because they beat teams like Miami (OH) and UTEP.  They'll have had an extremely weak bowl season overall if Oklahoma doesn't win the National Title.  Especially when two of the teams in the higher up bowls were destroyed by teams that were crippled on offense.

Just keep making excuses. You spent the whole season saying the Big XII was just a step above the Big East and now that they are proving you wrong you can't stand it.

Fact is that the 4th and 5th best teams in the conference got beaten by ranked opponents.

The 2nd and 3rd best teams beat highly ranked media darlings and poor little media darling Cal got fucking embarassed by "lowly" Texas Tech.

Big XII isn't overrated obviously and they proved it. End of story.

My God...there's going to be three more days of this, isn't there?

 

You just burned through all your goodwill you earned in the CE folder in about twenty minutes.

Dude, the Big XII sucks; much like the Big Ten. There's OU and I guess Texas, then everybody else is shit. Texas didn't impress me at all. I kept hearing all week how Texas was going to blow Michigan out, and I beleived it. After seeing the Rose Bowl, Michigan should have won. If not for Vince Young, Texas would be on the level of a Colorado, or K-State.

Yes and then Texas Tech beat the #4 team in the country that everyone says should've been in this game. No Texas Tech didn't just beat them, Texas Tech embarassed them.

Well yeah, I'll give you that. But if they were so good, how come they weren't in a BCS game? Personally I think Cal sleepwalked through that game. They wanted the Rose Bowl but got shafted for the Holiday Bowl.

Cal pretty much tanked that game, which is inexcusable. It's a shame we didn't get to see the Cal I've watched all season.

[Guest bigm350]

Who's good in the Big 12? Besides OU, Texas, and maybe Texas Tech. who's good? Please don't say Texas A&M, Colorado, or Oklahoma State.

How many of the other conferences have more than two "good" teams?

 

That's why this whole debate is pointless--because there is no clear cut power conference.

That's true. There is no 'Power conference' in College Football anymore.

[sfaJack 0]

Jeff Tedford himself said after the game that 'lack of effort' was not the reason they lost the Holiday Bowl.

 

They got their asses kicked. Deal with it.

[CanadianChris 0]

Jeff Tedford himself said after the game that 'lack of effort' was not the reason they lost the Holiday Bowl.

 

They got their asses kicked. Deal with it.

What the hell else was he going to say? That he couldn't prepare or motivate his team?

[Guest bigm350]

Yeah because they beat teams like Miami (OH) and UTEP.  They'll have had an extremely weak bowl season overall if Oklahoma doesn't win the National Title.  Especially when two of the teams in the higher up bowls were destroyed by teams that were crippled on offense.

Just keep making excuses. You spent the whole season saying the Big XII was just a step above the Big East and now that they are proving you wrong you can't stand it.

Fact is that the 4th and 5th best teams in the conference got beaten by ranked opponents.

The 2nd and 3rd best teams beat highly ranked media darlings and poor little media darling Cal got fucking embarassed by "lowly" Texas Tech.

Big XII isn't overrated obviously and they proved it. End of story.

My God...there's going to be three more days of this, isn't there?

 

You just burned through all your goodwill you earned in the CE folder in about twenty minutes.

Dude, the Big XII sucks; much like the Big Ten. There's OU and I guess Texas, then everybody else is shit. Texas didn't impress me at all. I kept hearing all week how Texas was going to blow Michigan out, and I beleived it. After seeing the Rose Bowl, Michigan should have won. If not for Vince Young, Texas would be on the level of a Colorado, or K-State.

Yes and then Texas Tech beat the #4 team in the country that everyone says should've been in this game. No Texas Tech didn't just beat them, Texas Tech embarassed them.

Well yeah, I'll give you that. But if they were so good, how come they weren't in a BCS game? Personally I think Cal sleepwalked through that game. They wanted the Rose Bowl but got shafted for the Holiday Bowl.

Good excuse but not true.

Why weren't they in the BCS? Because they played against OU and Texas who are better than they are.

Texas is overrated. I hate to say it, but so is Michigan. I'm beginning to think OU is overrated as well. I watched a few of their games and they didn't impress me; barely beating OK State. From top to bottom, I think USC is easily the best team in the country with Auburn the runner-up.

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

Basically I've turned out to be right in these threads and now everyone can't handle that fact and they now have to resort to flamebaiting and going back on what was said earlier just b/c none of them can admit the Big XII is any good.

You guys are pathetic.

Keep this up and I'm suspending you through next week. Learn to debate in a civil, dignified manner, and quit being a sore winner. A poster's arguments for or against a position in college football does not represent a personal attack upon you.

[Vern Gagne 0]

This is supposed to be discussion about the Rose Bowl. The game is over, but there's other threads to discuss the Big XII and the Orange Bowl.

[Art Sandusky 0]

This would happen when I fall asleep. Knew I shoulda slept last night.

[Slayer 0]

I'm on vacation. I'm bored. I watched my team lose tonight on a last second FG (the story of the season for me, it seems). And then I come in here and see Dama rooting for the Longhorns.

 

Dama. A Sooner. Rooting for the Longhorns.

 

Turn in your red and white colors, pronto.

 

That's all I'm going to say on that before I get tagged as egging Dama on.

 

As for the game itself, fuck. Michigan let an average QB (look at the stats) turn into Michael Vick against their defense and wound up losing their second RB in a row, not doing the Big 10 proud. Since Texas was favored, I wouldn't feel too bad losing to them, except for the fact I hate Mack Brown and hate seeing him vindicated for all his shit.

 

Well, at least he's still championshipless.