Give Monty Brown the Title?

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

Since this has been discussed. Should Monty Brown get the NWA World Title during the next few months?

[SamoaRowe 0]

It's worth a shot and it gets the damn thing away from Jarrett.

[Guest LooneyTune]

It's not a 100% in 1 direction answer, because he still is a little green in the ring, but he's pretty darn over. I think being over is a lot more important (not all World Champions are great wrestlers) than in-ring skills, and by that way of thinking, I think he should.

 

I'm sure people preffer in ring work than over-ness, which is why I won't go definitely 100% without a doubt, no arguments, period.

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

I'm now of the opinion that TNA's long term survival might depend on Monty Brown and how they use him over the next couple of months.

[Guest M. Harry Smilac]

I voted no.

 

He's over but has the worst finisher since the Garvin Stomp.

[Guest whitemilesdavis]

I'm now of the opinion that TNA's long term survival might depend on Monty Brown and how they use him over the next couple of months.

I agree. So, let's say they put the belt on him, and he's just not ready to carry the company. His career will never recover, the belt will be even more weakened, and TNA's long term survival will be put in serious jeopardy.

 

He's the future. More matches like his Jarrett match, more feuding with and overcoming credible opponents, and he'll be ready, but not now.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

They need something to take the attention off of Stick Man Savage screwing them over, so I wouldn't be surpised if they switch the NWA Title at the PPV. Of course, Triple J will get his belt back in short order, but I still think a quickie title change could happen.

[Guest Coffey]

I voted for no. His promo's are lackluster and he is LOST in the ring. Did ya'll see his match with Jeff Jarrett on the last iMPACT!? He doesn't know what to do if it's not a squash.

 

His finisher is also a joke. The crowd chants for it in a taunting way. They want to see it so that they can laugh at it. Since Monty is supposed to be taken as a serious threat, hell, even a contender, that's not a good sign.

 

He's a TNA created star, but he's not been fully created yet. It's too soon. Granted I don't like Jeff Jarrett as champion either, but at least he's been around the block a few times.

[pgi86 0]

That`s the problem TNA have right now.No legit main eventers.Let`s see who can main event the next ppv with Jarrett:

 

 

DDP - looks like they`re doing a 2-3 month feud with Watts and Raven so he`s out

 

Raven - same as Page.And besides I`ve always thought that if Raven were to win the belt he should after a long feud with the champ thus continueing this "it`s my destiny" storyline

 

Abyss - not ready.He`ll be a big star down the road but he`s just not ready for a push.Actually ,he might be but I can`t really see him getting the push.

 

AJ Styles - Styles vs Jarrett yet again?!This just does intrigue me anymore.

 

Jeff Hardy - no way!Bad in-ring work .Nuff said.

 

Ron Killings - he`s just sooo stale right now.I`m thinking a heel push will refresh him but then again 3LK are so over that it wouldn`t kame sense.And yet again,we`ve seen Jarrett vs Killings so many times before.

 

Monty Brown - he`s money but not immediate money.He`s just not ready.

 

So to be honest I really have no idea who should headline along with Jeff Jarrett.I`d say that the best option would be a deadly draw match or a king of the mountain match.I`m not too sure about this though.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

If they don't have anybody 'ready' for the NWA Title, and they really do need a title switch, both to take the focus away from Savage and to shake things up, then they're going to have to go with the guy who is closest to ready, and that may be Brown.

[razazteca 0]

I would rather see Chris Daniels vs AMW for the NWA title.

[RedJed 0]

I voted for no. His promo's are lackluster and he is LOST in the ring. Did ya'll see his match with Jeff Jarrett on the last iMPACT!? He doesn't know what to do if it's not a squash.

 

His finisher is also a joke. The crowd chants for it in a taunting way. They want to see it so that they can laugh at it. Since Monty is supposed to be taken as a serious threat, hell, even a contender, that's not a good sign.

 

He's a TNA created star, but he's not been fully created yet. It's too soon. Granted I don't like Jeff Jarrett as champion either, but at least he's been around the block a few times.

I actually think his promos are one of his strong points. Sometimes they are so off the wall they actually work, reminds me of Jimmy Snuka back in the day.

 

The Impact match with Jarrett was actually one of his better performances, and I dont really think it was because of a carry job by Jarrett. He played the indestructable force role pretty well near the finish there. His last two ppvs matches as well havent been THAT bad either.

 

I dont agree with you at all about the finisher in terms of how you feel the fans percieve it. I see it as a unique finisher (be it stupid orthat has gotten fans behind him because of it. That is how they connect with the wrestler - one of the few guys in the company who does such!

 

I just fear that if they wait too long (and they cant wait any longer, get the belt off Jarrett NOW) on Brown, they may expose him for his weaknesses (which there are) and the chance may never happen. This is the closest thing that TNA has had as a legitimate new star in the company since the Raven-Jarrett feud that they blew. They cant blow it again and not capitalize on the match they did last week on Impact - while it's still fresh in the fan's minds, they should get a rematch lined up NOW.

[Styles 0]

Yes, Brown is the best shot they've got at creating a new star. He has tons of charisma, the fans are into him and as evidenced by his match with Jarrett on Impact! (which was a trial baloon make no mistake about it), he proved he could hang and helped Jarrett to his best match in a long time.

I'm all for it, but I want to see it done right. TNA's biggest weakness is their finishes, I want to see it done clean and decisively.

[TNABaddboi 0]

BTW...anyone know where I can find the Brown/Jarrett match? I missed that weeks show and I'd really like to check it out.

[Guest LooneyTune]

You might see highlights of it on Xplosion, depending on if when the match originally aired. If it was last week, it's probably got highlights on this weeks Xplosion. If not, then best luck finding a place to download or get a copy from someone.

[TNABaddboi 0]

You might see highlights of it on Xplosion, depending on if when the match originally aired. If it was last week, it's probably got highlights on this weeks Xplosion. If not, then best luck finding a place to download or get a copy from someone.

 

No Xplosion in my area

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

"I voted for no. His promo's are lackluster and he is LOST in the ring. Did ya'll see his match with Jeff Jarrett on the last iMPACT!? He doesn't know what to do if it's not a squash.

 

His finisher is also a joke. The crowd chants for it in a taunting way. They want to see it so that they can laugh at it. Since Monty is supposed to be taken as a serious threat, hell, even a contender, that's not a good sign.

 

He's a TNA created star, but he's not been fully created yet. It's too soon. Granted I don't like Jeff Jarrett as champion either, but at least he's been around the block a few times."

 

 

Coffey...are you serious?

 

1. His promos are lackluster? Dating back to the last couple months of the weekly ppvs, his promos have been really good. I hope you aren't expecting a guy that size to be cutting serious "My dream is to win the World title" Chris Benoit-esque promos. His I'm going to kill you genre of promo is unmatched. Half of what makes his promos good...is that no one else has promos remotely similar.

 

2. If you think the fans mock the pounce you are out of your mind. They chant for the move...and then pop huge when he hits it. I'm not going to start the discussion of what makes a credible finisher (such as No one ever having kicked out of it. After all...every wrestling finisher is ridiculous in the context of a fight) But you are way off on fan approval.

 

3. He's not the best wrestler in the world. Fine. But most people liked him in the Jarrett match...and the last 2 ppv matches haven't exactly sucked either. He's not going to work a mat classic at any time in his career...but he's catching fire as an overall package (similar to the Truth at teh very beginning of the company...and he couldn't really work either) and he's interesting when he's on screen.

 

He looks like a star. Jarrett looks like Jarrett. Everyone else hasn't been near the World title program for a while.

 

I think Monty, as an overall package...combined with his ongoing NWA Title storyline is THE guy to face Jarrett now at Final Resolution.

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

As I mentioned in the other thread; I've talked to several fans that have just discovered Impact and the first thing they always mention is Monty Brown. That should say a lot that he leaves the biggest impression on a lot of people.

 

And I disagree with fans mocking the move. They chant for it and then pop huge whenever he goes into the ropes like he's going to do it.

[Guest LooneyTune]

How can anyone hate the POUNCE?! Thats the best finishing move ever. It's no less believable than Jarretts shitty stroke, which is the EASIEST move to block ever, considering you just have to put the occupied hand down in front of your face.

 

Of course, it's sold like the Pedigree, so logic isn't allowed.

[Guest Coffey]

Yes, I'm very serious. He has some of the worst promo's in the WHOLE INDUSTRY! I will give him some credit though, because he's trying to improve, and at least he gets up there and talks.

 

All this "sarengeti" and "poooounce" crap has got to go though. It makes him look ignorant, not threatening. It's stupid.

 

I think he has a good look (outside of his ring attire) and he has potential. Up to this point, however, that's all it appears to be. He needs more time.

 

Bad gimmick, green worker, bad talker...and a shitty finisher. That's Monty Brown. The gimmick will mold over time. He can get better in the ring, but not from having weekly squash matches. His talking will improve with practice, and he just plain needs a new finisher.

 

It's OBVIOUS that the fans aren't cheering for the pounce because they want to see it because it's so awesome and credible. It's mocked. If you can't see that, I think...wow.

 

Ya'll REALLY are wanting an alternative I guess.

[TNABaddboi 0]

It's OBVIOUS that the fans aren't cheering for the pounce because they want to see it because it's so awesome and credible. It's mocked. If you can't see that, I think...wow.

 

I've watched Impact w/ a few non-fans the past few weeks and they've all marked out for the Pounce. It may be a ridiculous move, but then again, so was the People's Elbow. And it seems rather pointless to chant for a move you want to mock. At this point, the Pounce is the most over finisher in the entire company (or at least on par with the Canadian Destroyer, but no one chants for that).

[Guest LooneyTune]

Fans chanting for a move makes it a joke...I've really never heard crowds chant for moves much in WWE so I wasn't aware that was a rule.

[RedJed 0]

Yes, I'm very serious. He has some of the worst promo's in the WHOLE INDUSTRY! I will give him some credit though, because he's trying to improve, and at least he gets up there and talks.

 

All this "sarengeti" and "poooounce" crap has got to go though. It makes him look ignorant, not threatening. It's stupid.

 

I think he has a good look (outside of his ring attire) and he has potential. Up to this point, however, that's all it appears to be. He needs more time.

 

Bad gimmick, green worker, bad talker...and a shitty finisher. That's Monty Brown. The gimmick will mold over time. He can get better in the ring, but not from having weekly squash matches. His talking will improve with practice, and he just plain needs a new finisher.

 

It's OBVIOUS that the fans aren't cheering for the pounce because they want to see it because it's so awesome and credible. It's mocked. If you can't see that, I think...wow.

 

Ya'll REALLY are wanting an alternative I guess.

Giving him a new finisher would be career suicide - I would think THAT would be the obvious point! The move, be it a joke or not, is OVER as is the character behind it.

 

How can you figure that fans are cheering a move just because its funny or as you say, "mocked"? I'm curious how this occurs....

 

If anything the finisher is UNIQUE (not necessarily awesome) but it does still hold credibility as well since I dont believe anyone has kicked out of it yet (I think).

[Styles 0]

I don't see at all where you're getting that The POUNCCCCCCCEEEEEEEE~!!!!!! is being mocked. The fans love it. They react to it the same way they did Goldberg's spear. It's sold as a devestating finishing move. I don't think it's a joke either. This is a former NFL linebacker, 260 pounds of granite colliding into you full force from the side. That's a lot more credible than most wrestling moves. I don't know how you can't like Monty Brown's promos either. They are his own unique style and he is fully confident behind the mic. The man says he watched The Discovery Channel in his spare time just so he can pick up new animal related terms to use in his promos. Say what you want about his abilities in the ring but his promos, charisma and finishing move are not to be denied. Period!

[razazteca 0]

They could give the Black Goldberg a suplex to be used before or after THE POUNCE! It could'nt hurt if Monty used a brainbuster or powerslam along with the POUNCE as his finisher.

[Astro101 0]

I voted yes. A few months ago when the talk was MAYBE give Monty the title, I was against it. But now, he's got the fans behind him and I say let's go for it. The POOOOOOUUUUUUUNCE is not being mocked. I think the fans really enjoy it. Not only that but I mark out for it each and every time for some reason, however stupid it may sound.

[eirejmcmahon 0]

IF they decide to put the title on him, they better have a well planned out follow-up designed to place him as a credible champion cause I don't think he's there yet myself.

 

Having him win in anyway less than clean will kill his run from the get-go.

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

The way Brown wins the title is by overcoming Nash and Hall interference and winning clean.

 

Coffey...I don't know how you could think people are mocking the finisher. I really don't. When people chant for it, and then pop for it...that's mocking? Come on. You don't like it...but don't speak for other people. It is a ridiculous move...but most finishers are. At least this one looks like it can come out of nowhere (how does Styles get his opponent into that position EVERY MATCH?) and until someone kicks out...it's credible.

[eirejmcmahon 0]

The way Brown wins the title is by overcoming Nash and Hall interference and winning clean.

Agreed.

 

What'll probably happen - Nash and or Hall causes JJ to lose the title, setting up Nash vs JJ as the top feud for a month or two before the winner takes back the title.

[Guest Coffey]

I wonder how many people would've voted "yes" if Jeff Jarrett wasn't the current champion....