ChrisMWaters Posted December 21, 2004 Report Posted December 21, 2004 Interesting note: There are 3 HHH matches on the show, and HHH lost all three of them. Who would have thought that you'd see that on a Best of Raw show?
Guest The Shadow Behind You Posted December 21, 2004 Report Posted December 21, 2004 Even more amazing... HHH *still* hasn't gotten those jobs returned to him. I don't count pinfalls in tag matches as a "returned" job.
Guest The Shadow Behind You Posted December 21, 2004 Report Posted December 21, 2004 I'll be honest...I'm really shocked they didn't put over Orton's wins at Backlash and 'Slam. Maybe they really are pushing him down.
razazteca Posted December 21, 2004 Report Posted December 21, 2004 HHH will get the job returned at the EC?
NYU Posted December 21, 2004 Report Posted December 21, 2004 BUMP OF THE YEAR? Lita's Dive or Orton's Bareback into tacks? London's head drop. That wasn't one of the choices. I still cringe when I see Orton's bareback bump onto the thumbtacks. His dry heaving afterwards only makes it that much more worse. The true indicator between those two particular bumps? Lita bending her neck with that suicide dive was unplanned. Orton actually WANTED to fall into those thumbtacks. To me, that gives him the edge.
UseTheSledgehammerUh Posted December 21, 2004 Report Posted December 21, 2004 Elimination Chamber thoughts... Batista is going to pin Chris Jericho with a Batista Bomb or Spinebuster. Batista is going to get pinned after Triple H fucks him over or costs him a fatal blow. Benoit is going to be pinned by a HHH Pedigree. Not in that order, necessarily. I think Edge walks out of NYR with the title belt. Eh, maybe. Actually I have no fucking clue. I do think that Batista gets cost the match by Hunter tho...and a face will not leave with the belt.
ChrisMWaters Posted December 21, 2004 Report Posted December 21, 2004 Sledge: For some reason, I see Batista either intentionally or accidentally costing HHH the match. And then, if they're both in the Royal Rumble, him doing it again.
Lil' Bitch Posted December 21, 2004 Report Posted December 21, 2004 So no tribute video for Boss Man, Hercules, etc.?
UseTheSledgehammerUh Posted December 21, 2004 Report Posted December 21, 2004 Deon, for many hours I have been trying to decipher where that HBK theme was coming from. It keeps blasting and making me look stupid. I figured it was from you, but wasn't clever enough until now to put the pointer on the picture. Now if you could get Edge's kickass Alter Bridge theme to play at the chorus...we'd be in business.
The Amazing Rando Posted December 21, 2004 Report Posted December 21, 2004 Oh God; They are going remind us of the Diva Search. The Survivor Series Match apprently...WILL be the final match. I'd bet the farm on Orton/Foley getting a spot. It *made* Orton. I'll be taking that farm, thank you. What's mine is mine and what's yours is mine, TOO!
Art Sandusky Posted December 21, 2004 Report Posted December 21, 2004 I've been watching some video from the hot periods of the 80s and 97-Wrestlemania XVII, and noticed that the only time I've really heard the crowd react like they used to in a present-day situation was at Wrestlemania XX with Benoit's victory. A WWE crowd really hasn't come legit unglued in a looooooong time. I understand pops were helped during the hot periods by full houses and today's shows play to 1/2 of an arena or slightly more for the lion's share, but you can just tell by the crowd that actually is visible. No one's really excited and swept up in things as they used to be. Run-ins, face wins, big announcements that hurt a heel somehow, none of that really gets the nearly nuclear heat such things used to get back in the day. Kinda sad, but such is the current product where they're short on real marquee superstars and things have become predictable or outright dumb, even to those who don't read up on this stuff everyday like we do. I also miss the more legitimate-sounding commentary of the 80s-early 90s, but that's for an Old School thread. The commentator that comes closest (on the big shows anyway, I don't watch the B-shows) to the realistic air of competition and strategy and selling each match as appearing important in some fashion is Tazz. Hearing Jesse Ventura talk about something like the Intercontinental Title match at Wrestlemania V being something he'd pay to watch and saying he's excited about it during the previous match is just a little thing on a laundry list of those that aren't done anymore. And guys, WWE has to compress an entire year into two hours of programming. What they pick to put on is kinda like how Time determines their Person of the Year. Even some the worst dictators of all time can win the award, because it's not about how good or bad someone or something is, it's how much of an impact that event or person made. I saw no problem with their choices, and applauded the inclusion of virtually the entire Wrestlemania main event plus the Benoit video. Even the Diva Search and Kane/Lita storyline were rightfully put here because they were big things into which the company put loads of effort and time.
Black Lushus Posted December 21, 2004 Report Posted December 21, 2004 Kotz, you've been here long enough to know these people here are NEVER happy...
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