Batista over Benoit

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Ortons still positioned as being greater than Benoit, and got a strong reaction at the later-stages of the match. He needs to go back to Evolution, though, IMO.

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Did you even watch the match?!?  Batista was going "GWAAAAAAAH!!!" and "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!!!!!" after, like, every move.  That's looking for a crowd reaction.  The powerspot at the end was made to impress people and JR sold it like that.

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Is everyone forgetting why Benoit moved? Besides being another fresh face for Triple H to take on, his other purpose was to help out Batista and Randy Orton.

 

Of course, I was saying that before Benoit even won the Rumble last year. That's part of the reason why Benoits "push" sucked and I hated it - they never intended on making him into anything . I didn't even complain after Benoit lost last-night because I enjoyed the match, but when someone says it was a "protected loss" then they are nuts.

 

Benoit turns heel (he really needs refreshing).

 

Oh god NO. There's way to refresh someone without turning him. Benoit works better as a face, fans appreciate his effort and cheer him with much more enthusiasm than they do when they boo him.

A wrestler can still assume the persona of a heel, frustrated at his immediate downfall, whom the fans cheer. Austin, Rock, Lesnar, Orton and Batista were all heels when people started to cheer them.

 

What is wrong with Benoit losing it and going back to the lone wolf mode of when he came back from his injury. The intensity and ruthless aggression are what Benoit does best. What is wrong with him finally cracking, hijacking the show at saying I am the only person who HHH cant beat and you dont give a crap about me, so I dont give a crap about you.

 

Just because a wrestler portrays a heel doesnt mean that it has to be the whiney Angle, JBL, Jericho or HHH type. Whats wrong with the Hart or Austin type heel?

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Rudo...pandering to the crowd? Makes it sound like you think Batista should have been making sure not to elicit crowd reactions. Even though he's clearly being groomed for a push.

 

I agree with your point, but I didn't see the match so much as demoting Benoit as rather promoting Batista. I really don't think it hurt Benoit that much either. He lost to a man being booked as his equal. And not in a squash match either, in a competitive match where Batista impressed. The lasting impression wasn't neccessarily Benoit losing, but Batista's victory.

 

As I've said many times before, if Benoit suffers from losing one match, then he must be in DIRE straights.

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Benoit has got to turn heel and do so quickly, him and a face Jericho for the World Title at WMXXI would be off the chart.

 

I swear, this and "he needs to go to Raw/Smackdown" are the standard responses when Benoit is stuck in limbo. There are more things they can do fer cryin out loud, it just takes some thought.

 

You cant blame Batista for playing to the crowd.

 

I'm not. I don't like they they are positioning Batista over Benoit, because Batista is not a very good wrestler and is getting insanely overrated, but I never once blamed him for playing to the crowd. If the objective is to put Batista over Benoit, then they did that last night. Ironic that Benoit can beat Batista 100x's in 2004 and get nothing, but Batista only needs to beat Benoit once to get put over.

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Ortons still positioned as being greater than Benoit, and got a strong reaction at the later-stages of the match. He needs to go back to Evolution, though, IMO.

I'd like to see what reaction Orton would get after a match without any hot finishes. Without all the run-ins, Orton would get a decent reaction at best.

 

Is it safe to say that Benoit might be considered for having bulletproof heat? The guy never gets the biggest reaction for his entrance, but he can get most of the crowd going with his matches.

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What is wrong with Benoit losing it and going back to the lone wolf mode of when he came back from his injury. The intensity and ruthless aggression are what Benoit does best. What is wrong with him finally cracking, hijacking the show at saying I am the only person who HHH cant beat and you dont give a crap about me, so I dont give a crap about you.

 

1. Benoit has better matches as a face.

2. The crowd doesn't react to Benoit as strongly as a heel.

3. In other words: It. Doesn't. Work.

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Benoit has lost ground at the expense of Batista. I mean Benoit went from World Champ at SummerSlam to teaming with Regal at Unforgiven to chasing the Tag Straps at Taboo Tuesday and being eliminated 1st in the Classic SurSer Elimination Match if I am not mistaken. If that it is not a quick decline, I dont know what is.

 

In most cases, whenever someone comes off of a title run they usually are moved down the card. Benoit was "chasing the tag titles" because the people who did not win the voting in Taboo Tuesday were to be involved in the tag title match. He's back in the title picture this Sunday, so what's the big deal?

 

Benoit had a run from WrestleMania to SummerSlam. That's pretty good. 2004 was his year. Now it's 2005 and time for someone else to shine. I can't believe people are freaking out about one job on a Raw that will probably be forgotten by most people within six weeks.

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Rudo...pandering to the crowd? Makes it sound like you think Batista should have been making sure not to elicit crowd reactions. Even though he's clearly being groomed for a push.

 

Never said that.

 

I agree with your point, but I didn't see the match so much as demoting Benoit as rather promoting Batista.

 

To do one (promote), you usually have to do the other (demote). Especially when they set it up the way they did. In the HHH-age of wrestling, I suppose people get confused as what it means to do the job and what it means to put someone over. Benoit put over Batista, it was at his own expense.

 

I really don't think it hurt Benoit that much either. He lost to a man being booked as his equal. And not in a squash match either, in a competitive match where Batista impressed. The lasting impression wasn't neccessarily Benoit losing, but Batista's victory.

 

Benoit put over Batista. It hurt Benoit because the fans ended up cheering Batista over him in the end. That drops him down a spot (He's way down now, btw).

 

As I've said many times before, if Benoit suffers from losing one match, then he must be in DIRE straights.

 

This is what wrestling has become now. *shakes head*

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Ortons still positioned as being greater than Benoit, and got a strong reaction at the later-stages of the match. He needs to go back to Evolution, though, IMO.

He did, I must admit, but your suggesting he should go back to Evolution with his head between his legs. That would kill him.

 

The kids only 24. He bumps his ass off. Look at the way he took a Benoit suplex at SummerSlam. It looks at it should do. Bloody painful.

 

He has a good moveset. The RKO, modified backbreaker, the DDT from the top rope with that sick expression on his face, the cross body, the dropkick, plus countless other moves I cant remember cause its late.

 

He can cut a decent promo and can tell a good story whilst hes in the ring with a seasoned wrestler.

 

Hes the future of the WWE with Cena and Banjamin.

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I'd like to see what reaction Orton would get after a match without any hot finishes. Without all the run-ins, Orton would get a decent reaction at best.

 

He'd be a heel in less than a month.

 

Is it safe to say that Benoit might be considered for having bulletproof heat? The guy never gets the biggest reaction for his entrance, but he can get most of the crowd going with his matches.

 

Benoit's efforts will always be praised, but I wouldn't call that bulletproof. They could have given him that superstar pop, if they treated him like a superstar. WWE lives and dies on the superstar pop.

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I'd like to see what reaction Orton would get after a match without any hot finishes. Without all the run-ins, Orton would get a decent reaction at best

 

WWE main event style is basically built for a hot finish at the end of any main event, so this isn't likely to happen.

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He did, I must admit, but your suggesting he should go back to Evolution with his head between his legs. That would kill him.

 

*nod* Consider it a rebirth. He can afford it, and he needs it. He's getting Jeff Hardy and Edge heat right now, where it's mostly women who cheer him and the guys don't see him as cool anymore. That's death. The women will cheer him no matter what, cause they cheer him because they're attracted to him, but 80-90% of the audience isn't strongly supporting him. Go back to being a heel, develop the character some more, start again.

 

The kids only 24. He bumps his ass off. Look at the way he took a Benoit suplex at SummerSlam. It looks at it should do. Bloody painful.

 

All the more reason why he should be a heel. He had the most interest in him as a heel.

 

He has a good moveset. The RKO, modified backbreaker, the DDT from the top rope with that sick expression on his face, the cross body, the dropkick, plus countless other moves I cant remember cause its late.

 

His moves suck. I am and have never been anti-Randy, but his moves suck. The RKO is over big, but thats about it. The 3.0 backbreaker got NOTHING last night.

 

He can cut a decent promo and can tell a good story whilst hes in the ring with a seasoned wrestler.

 

Whoa whoa whoa whoa WHOA. His face promos suck.

 

Hes the future of the WWE with Cena and Banjamin.

 

Ugh.

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I want to see Benoit disappear off of TV for a month for no reason just to watch this place self-destruct.

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Benoit has got to turn heel and do so quickly, him and a face Jericho for the World Title at WMXXI would be off the chart.

 

I swear, this and "he needs to go to Raw/Smackdown" are the standard responses when Benoit is stuck in limbo. There are more things they can do fer cryin out loud, it just takes some thought.

 

You cant blame Batista for playing to the crowd.

 

I'm not. I don't like they they are positioning Batista over Benoit, because Batista is not a very good wrestler and is getting insanely overrated, but I never once blamed him for playing to the crowd. If the objective is to put Batista over Benoit, then they did that last night. Ironic that Benoit can beat Batista 100x's in 2004 and get nothing, but Batista only needs to beat Benoit once to get put over.

I dont want Benoit to go back to SD!. That would have been his 3rd brand swap. I hate brand swaps. Maximum of 1 or 2 a year. I also really dislike Interpromotional matches. They are cheap quick fix type gimmicks.

 

Batista has been assigned a task, to get pops from the crowd. And his doing it bloody well IMO. He cant do many things, but what he is doing he is doing it very well. Hes a monster, who is good with one-liners that get peoples backs up. He is there to squash people. He will not last. I cant blame the WWE for taking the reactions hes getting and running with it. As somebody else said on another post, if he loses a major match, he loses a lot of ground. If Benoit were to beat him now, the effect on his character would be disastrous. He should be playing it up more, and this would have been better a month down the line, him telling HHH at least someone can get the job done versus Benoit.

 

Who could Batista face instead of Benoit. He made Jericho his bitch last year and Orton, in the WWE's eyes, is the number one face at the moment. Remember when Benoit jumped to RAW, they had a match where Benoit had Batista in the Crossface when they played up Benoit pulling Batitas arm of the socket and HHH stared on frustrated beggint Batista not to tap. Benoit repayed the favour last night.

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He can cut a decent promo and can tell a good story whilst hes in the ring with a seasoned wrestler.

 

Hes the future of the WWE with Cena and Banjamin.

Randy Orton botches his lines to much. It ends up making him look stupid and then he has to stop a few moments and the go on like nothing happened. Last night was the first time that I can remember since turning face that he did not do that.

 

I wouldn't say that Benjamin is the future really. He's just gonna end up being the face equivalent of Christian eventually.

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Benoit has lost ground at the expense of Batista. I mean Benoit went from World Champ at SummerSlam to teaming with Regal at Unforgiven to chasing the Tag Straps at Taboo Tuesday and being eliminated 1st in the Classic SurSer Elimination Match if I am not mistaken. If that it is not a quick decline, I dont know what is.

 

In most cases, whenever someone comes off of a title run they usually are moved down the card. Benoit was "chasing the tag titles" because the people who did not win the voting in Taboo Tuesday were to be involved in the tag title match. He's back in the title picture this Sunday, so what's the big deal?

 

Benoit had a run from WrestleMania to SummerSlam. That's pretty good. 2004 was his year. Now it's 2005 and time for someone else to shine. I can't believe people are freaking out about one job on a Raw that will probably be forgotten by most people within six weeks.

Agreed, but Benoit should still be strong. It will be forgotten, but one must remember that although there is a difference between a job and putting somebody over, by putting somebody over you are doing it at your expense but just dont look so tremendously bad as a job.

 

IMO, Jericho was a heel for too bloody long. RVD has always been a face. RVD has lost his heart. Those 2 things really get my back up.

 

That makes his useless to the WWE. Look at the sorry state of Booker. From legit contender at WMXIX to a couldnt care less average wrestler portrayed very weakly by HIMSELF versus Cena and JBL.

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I want to see Benoit disappear off of TV for a month for no reason just to watch this place self-destruct.

Odd.

 

I want to see Benoit off TV for 3-6 months, for entirely different reasons.

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He did, I must admit, but your suggesting he should go back to Evolution with his head between his legs. That would kill him.

 

*nod* Consider it a rebirth. He can afford it, and he needs it. He's getting Jeff Hardy and Edge heat right now, where it's mostly women who cheer him and the guys don't see him as cool anymore. That's death. The women will cheer him no matter what, cause they cheer him because they're attracted to him, but 80-90% of the audience isn't strongly supporting him. Go back to being a heel, develop the character some more, start again.

 

The kids only 24. He bumps his ass off. Look at the way he took a Benoit suplex at SummerSlam. It looks at it should do. Bloody painful.

 

All the more reason why he should be a heel. He had the most interest in him as a heel.

 

He has a good moveset. The RKO, modified backbreaker, the DDT from the top rope with that sick expression on his face, the cross body, the dropkick, plus countless other moves I cant remember cause its late.

 

His moves suck. I am and have never been anti-Randy, but his moves suck. The RKO is over big, but thats about it. The 3.0 backbreaker got NOTHING last night.

 

He can cut a decent promo and can tell a good story whilst hes in the ring with a seasoned wrestler.

 

Whoa whoa whoa whoa WHOA. His face promos suck.

 

Hes the future of the WWE with Cena and Banjamin.

 

Ugh.

Yes, he is better playing the cocky heel. I believe that he has to be a heel. Nobody is drawing at the moment. He took a step forward by leaving the Evolution fold, unfortunately it was too soon as he cant hang on his own. Hes thus taken 2 steps back. Going back to Evolution is 5 steps back, youve killed the guy before hes even begining to touch his prime. The only way that angle would work is if hes made, and this will happen, HHH's bitch. Your also prolonging Evolution by another 2 years that way, and Randy want be able to even sniff at a singles belt before then. Might as well send him back to OVW. He should have faced The Rock at Backlash and beaten him. Rock would have done it. He did it for Goldberg and Brock for crying out loud. Foley should have happenede at Bad Blood.

 

But at the moment, a Benoit face isnt doing anything for me either. He is not bulletproof, he is highly respeceted, theirs a difference. HBK, Foley, The Rock, UT, Austin and HHH are bulletproof, everybody else such as Jericho, Booker, RVD, Eddy and Benoit are respected.

 

Why ugh? Is there anybody else?

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He did, I must admit, but your suggesting he should go back to Evolution with his head between his legs. That would kill him.

 

*nod* Consider it a rebirth. He can afford it, and he needs it. He's getting Jeff Hardy and Edge heat right now, where it's mostly women who cheer him and the guys don't see him as cool anymore. That's death. The women will cheer him no matter what, cause they cheer him because they're attracted to him, but 80-90% of the audience isn't strongly supporting him. Go back to being a heel, develop the character some more, start again.

 

The kids only 24. He bumps his ass off. Look at the way he took a Benoit suplex at SummerSlam. It looks at it should do. Bloody painful.

 

All the more reason why he should be a heel. He had the most interest in him as a heel.

 

He has a good moveset. The RKO, modified backbreaker, the DDT from the top rope with that sick expression on his face, the cross body, the dropkick, plus countless other moves I cant remember cause its late.

 

His moves suck. I am and have never been anti-Randy, but his moves suck. The RKO is over big, but thats about it. The 3.0 backbreaker got NOTHING last night.

 

He can cut a decent promo and can tell a good story whilst hes in the ring with a seasoned wrestler.

 

Whoa whoa whoa whoa WHOA. His face promos suck.

 

Hes the future of the WWE with Cena and Banjamin.

 

Ugh.

Yes, he is better playing the cocky heel. I believe that he has to be a heel. Nobody is drawing at the moment. He took a step forward by leaving the Evolution fold, unfortunately it was too soon as he cant hang on his own. Hes thus taken 2 steps back. Going back to Evolution is 5 steps back, youve killed the guy before hes even begining to touch his prime. The only way that angle would work is if hes made, and this will happen, HHH's bitch. Your also prolonging Evolution by another 2 years that way, and Randy want be able to even sniff at a singles belt before then. Might as well send him back to OVW. He should have faced The Rock at Backlash and beaten him. Rock would have done it. He did it for Goldberg and Brock for crying out loud. Foley should have happenede at Bad Blood.

 

But at the moment, a Benoit face isnt doing anything for me either. He is not bulletproof, he is highly respeceted, theirs a difference. HBK, Foley, The Rock, UT, Austin and HHH are bulletproof, everybody else such as Jericho, Booker, RVD, Eddy and Benoit are respected.

 

Why ugh? Is there anybody else?

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He did, I must admit, but your suggesting he should go back to Evolution with his head between his legs. That would kill him.

 

*nod* Consider it a rebirth. He can afford it, and he needs it. He's getting Jeff Hardy and Edge heat right now, where it's mostly women who cheer him and the guys don't see him as cool anymore. That's death. The women will cheer him no matter what, cause they cheer him because they're attracted to him, but 80-90% of the audience isn't strongly supporting him. Go back to being a heel, develop the character some more, start again.

 

The kids only 24. He bumps his ass off. Look at the way he took a Benoit suplex at SummerSlam. It looks at it should do. Bloody painful.

 

All the more reason why he should be a heel. He had the most interest in him as a heel.

 

He has a good moveset. The RKO, modified backbreaker, the DDT from the top rope with that sick expression on his face, the cross body, the dropkick, plus countless other moves I cant remember cause its late.

 

His moves suck. I am and have never been anti-Randy, but his moves suck. The RKO is over big, but thats about it. The 3.0 backbreaker got NOTHING last night.

 

He can cut a decent promo and can tell a good story whilst hes in the ring with a seasoned wrestler.

 

Whoa whoa whoa whoa WHOA. His face promos suck.

 

Hes the future of the WWE with Cena and Banjamin.

 

Ugh.

Yes, he is better playing the cocky heel. I believe that he has to be a heel. Nobody is drawing at the moment. He took a step forward by leaving the Evolution fold, unfortunately it was too soon as he cant hang on his own. Hes thus taken 2 steps back. Going back to Evolution is 5 steps back, youve killed the guy before hes even begining to touch his prime. The only way that angle would work is if hes made, and this will happen, HHH's bitch. Your also prolonging Evolution by another 2 years that way, and Randy want be able to even sniff at a singles belt before then. Might as well send him back to OVW. He should have faced The Rock at Backlash and beaten him. Rock would have done it. He did it for Goldberg and Brock for crying out loud. Foley should have happenede at Bad Blood.

 

But at the moment, a Benoit face isnt doing anything for me either. He is not bulletproof, he is highly respeceted, theirs a difference. HBK, Foley, The Rock, UT, Austin and HHH are bulletproof, everybody else such as Jericho, Booker, RVD, Eddy and Benoit are respected.

 

Why ugh? Is there anybody else?

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Benoit has lost ground at the expense of Batista. I mean Benoit went from World Champ at SummerSlam to teaming with Regal at Unforgiven to chasing the Tag Straps at Taboo Tuesday and being eliminated 1st in the Classic SurSer Elimination Match if I am not mistaken. If that it is not a quick decline, I dont know what is.

 

In most cases, whenever someone comes off of a title run they usually are moved down the card. Benoit was "chasing the tag titles" because the people who did not win the voting in Taboo Tuesday were to be involved in the tag title match. He's back in the title picture this Sunday, so what's the big deal?

 

Benoit had a run from WrestleMania to SummerSlam. That's pretty good. 2004 was his year. Now it's 2005 and time for someone else to shine. I can't believe people are freaking out about one job on a Raw that will probably be forgotten by most people within six weeks.

Sorry, wrong choice of words. But being put in the tag team picture is a demotion from World Champ.

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The way I see it is this:

 

1) Triple H isn't moving down from the top heel position anytime soon

 

2) We saw Benoit vs Triple H a few times last year, and they feuded for most of the year.

 

3) Batista moving into Benoit's spot is good because it sets up Batista/Triple H, which is really the only match I can think of that hasn't been done so many times that I may actually pay to see it.

 

Plus, Benoit still looked strong last night. Losing to a guy as big and strong as Batista isn't going to make him look bad. Coming into the match they were about even odds to win, and they booked the match so that it looked like it could have gone either way.

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He can cut a decent promo and can tell  a good story whilst hes in the ring with a seasoned wrestler.

 

Hes the future of the WWE with Cena and Banjamin.

Randy Orton botches his lines to much. It ends up making him look stupid and then he has to stop a few moments and the go on like nothing happened. Last night was the first time that I can remember since turning face that he did not do that.

 

I wouldn't say that Benjamin is the future really. He's just gonna end up being the face equivalent of Christian eventually.

Hes getting better, look at his promos this time 2 years ago, when he was doing the RNN.

 

Whos is the future then in the WWEs eyes? Ortons the next HHH, Benjamins the next Rock and Cenas the next Austin. I know its said, but Vince wants to relieve the glory days of the Attitude era. A superstar should be a superstar in his own right, and not a clone or wanabee. Thats why Brock was fresh.

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I want to see Benoit disappear off of TV for a month for no reason just to watch this place self-destruct.

Odd.

 

I want to see Benoit off TV for 3-6 months, for entirely different reasons.

Which are please, if you care to share. And I dont mean that sarcastically.

 

Sorry for posting same thing 3 times, internet froze.

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The way I see it is this:

 

1) Triple H isn't moving down from the top heel position anytime soon

 

2) We saw Benoit vs Triple H a few times last year, and they feuded for most of the year.

 

3) Batista moving into Benoit's spot is good because it sets up Batista/Triple H, which is really the only match I can think of that hasn't been done so many times that I may actually pay to see it.

 

Plus, Benoit still looked strong last night. Losing to a guy as big and strong as Batista isn't going to make him look bad. Coming into the match they were about even odds to win, and they booked the match so that it looked like it could have gone either way.

Thats my point. But it was done at the expense of Benoit, who is sliding down the pecking order fast. I know, feeding Benoit to Batista makes Big Dave look more believable, but it makes Benoit look bad. They couldnt have used Jericho or Orton. Using Benjamin would make him look weak before his IC defense. Eugene is no longer taken seriously. Regal never was. That leaves Benoit, just a shame he was fodder for Batista.

 

I have this theory though that you can put the following fact over: wrestler A WAS BETTER THAN wrestler B AT A GIVEN POINT IN TIME. Obviously, that requires good booking and storytelling for a reverse feud possibility with the opposite effect.

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He can cut a decent promo and can tell  a good story whilst hes in the ring with a seasoned wrestler.

 

Hes the future of the WWE with Cena and Banjamin.

Randy Orton botches his lines to much. It ends up making him look stupid and then he has to stop a few moments and the go on like nothing happened. Last night was the first time that I can remember since turning face that he did not do that.

 

I wouldn't say that Benjamin is the future really. He's just gonna end up being the face equivalent of Christian eventually.

Hes getting better, look at his promos this time 2 years ago, when he was doing the RNN.

 

Whos is the future then in the WWEs eyes? Ortons the next HHH, Benjamins the next Rock and Cenas the next Austin. I know its said, but Vince wants to relieve the glory days of the Attitude era. A superstar should be a superstar in his own right, and not a clone or wanabee. Thats why Brock was fresh.

Actually a lot of people started liking Randy because of his RNN promos.

 

Benjamin is not the next Rock. He is really just gonna be the face equivalent of Christian, like I said before. People will think of Benjamin as being a guy who could be a challenger for anything, just not the main belt. He's gonna be bounced around the card just like Christian and people will quit caring about him, but he'll always will get them back, only to have them lose interest once again, due to booking. He's just gonna be a second tier guy.

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You stupid shits. Batista did not pin Benoit clean. He pinned him shortly after ramming his head 3 times into the exposed metal part of the turnbuckle. The loss made logical sense. Benoit beat Batista clean earlier last year, not to mention all of those tag team victories over him and mostly Flair.

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The way I see it is this:

 

1) Triple H isn't moving down from the top heel position anytime soon

 

2) We saw Benoit vs Triple H a few times last year, and they feuded for most of the year.

 

3) Batista moving into Benoit's spot is good because it sets up Batista/Triple H, which is really the only match I can think of that hasn't been done so many times that I may actually pay to see it.

 

Plus, Benoit still looked strong last night. Losing to a guy as big and strong as Batista isn't going to make him look bad. Coming into the match they were about even odds to win, and they booked the match so that it looked like it could have gone either way.

Thats my point. But it was done at the expense of Benoit, who is sliding down the pecking order fast. I know, feeding Benoit to Batista makes Big Dave look more believable, but it makes Benoit look bad. They couldnt have used Jericho or Orton. Using Benjamin would make him look weak before his IC defense. Eugene is no longer taken seriously. Regal never was. That leaves Benoit, just a shame he was fodder for Batista.

90% of the fans will forget about this match in two weeks, maybe by next week depending on the reaction to the elimination chamber. It did help Batista, but I don't think Benoit will have a problem keeping the crowd on his side and being looked at as a contender for the title. It wasn't a squash for Batista anyways. Either guy could have won, and Benoit has beaten Batista before. If Batista beats Benoit again cleanly next week and the week after that, then you guys will have valid complaints.

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He can cut a decent promo and can tell  a good story whilst hes in the ring with a seasoned wrestler.

 

Hes the future of the WWE with Cena and Banjamin.

Randy Orton botches his lines to much. It ends up making him look stupid and then he has to stop a few moments and the go on like nothing happened. Last night was the first time that I can remember since turning face that he did not do that.

 

I wouldn't say that Benjamin is the future really. He's just gonna end up being the face equivalent of Christian eventually.

Hes getting better, look at his promos this time 2 years ago, when he was doing the RNN.

 

Whos is the future then in the WWEs eyes? Ortons the next HHH, Benjamins the next Rock and Cenas the next Austin. I know its said, but Vince wants to relieve the glory days of the Attitude era. A superstar should be a superstar in his own right, and not a clone or wanabee. Thats why Brock was fresh.

Actually a lot of people started liking Randy because of his RNN promos.

 

Benjamin is not the next Rock. He is really just gonna be the face equivalent of Christian, like I said before. People will think of Benjamin as being a guy who could be a challenger for anything, just not the main belt. He's gonna be bounced around the card just like Christian and people will quit caring about him, but he'll always will get them back, only to have them lose interest once again, due to booking. He's just gonna be a second tier guy.

I started to like Randy at the start of his Legend Killer gimmick. I couldnt care less what % his arm had reached.

 

I guess your right re Benjamin. Sure I read that him and Orton are the 2 next huge stars of the company. God knows were.