The NFL Offseason/Pre-Draft Thread

[Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0]

Usually running backs have times between 4.3 and 4.5...cornerbacks get at least 4.6.

 

You've got those mixed up. Corners run between 4.3 and 4.5, whereas running backs usually run about 4.5-4.6.

[2GOLD 0]

Usually running backs have times between 4.3 and 4.5...cornerbacks get at least 4.6.

 

You've got those mixed up. Corners run between 4.3 and 4.5, whereas running backs usually run about 4.5-4.6.

 

The guys at NFL.com and a very other sites said his speed just made a lot of the scouts sour on him. They were already unsure about his attitude and his durability and this didn't help him.

 

Maurice must show off a significant gain in the shuttle run or he could be off the list of every team.

 

If he is a running back with no speed and no quickness that hasn't played football for a year then he'll be history.

[Guest Vitamin X]

I don't know what the fuck he was thinking trying to get into the draft early anyways. One pretty good (not even amazing) season in NCAA football means jackshit when it comes to the NFL and says nothing about his consistency.

[Guest Deadbolt]

Woodson resigns with the Raiders

 

This makes their already bloated cap situation worse, but they will probably trade him anyway.

yes Woodson will be traded cuz theres no way they can afford him, Porter and Moss. i'm not sure who will want him with all the talk about wanting to be the highest paid player at his pos. and really not doing anything to be worth that much

[Guest Deadbolt]

As for Rice he asked to be released cuz they weren't using him the way they said they were going to. and 2nd Steve Largent agreed to let his # be unretired for Rice to use which was stupid on his part and i thought it was wrong for Rice to even ask if he could use the #. and with all the years hes played he could help some team with young players so theres still alot he can do in the NFL, specially since he still wants to play

[Guest Vitamin X]

When you were the best there ever was, and the best there probably ever will be at one point, and you can't even manage to make the cut after playing in the #3 position on the fucking Seahawks nowadays, it's a sign that your time is probably over.

 

I would have been happy to never have seen Rice leave the Niners though. If he does a retirement tour with San Fran this year, it'd be nice. Otherwise he should do the old sign and retire with them.

 

So they unretired Steve Largent's number for Rice to play half a season? That's tough shit, man.

I can understand not wanting to tarnish a good career, however the guy still has the desire to play. And as long as HE wants to play, can play and someone wants him, why not keep going? There's older players then him in hockey, baseball and basketball. As long as he can produce why retire?

With the exception of maybe hockey, neither of the other two sports (ESPECIALLY baseball which is more in-game skill than athletic ability) are as physically demanding as football. The funny part is, I don't see any championship contender that's going to want to take him. The man is financially set, and it's been said that playing out an NFL season is the equivalent to the human body as a fairly serious car crash. I know Rice has a legendary offseason regimen, but why continue putting your body out there on the line over and over and over again, when you might not even win a championship again? For a player as competitive as Rice, that has to be near-sadistic on his part to keep on coming back. He should start thinking about his own health, not to mention his family I'm sure, as well.

 

and with all the years hes played he could help some team with young players so theres still alot he can do in the NFL, specially since he still wants to play

I'm sure Rice could be more than capable as a wide receivers coach in the NFL.

[Guest Failed Mascot]

The Cowboys are reportedly already talking to Ty Law.

It's a perfect fit. The Cowboys have the cap room, the need, and Law has played for Parcells before. Law is also reportedly receiving interest from Cleveland.

 

FOXSports.com has learned that the trade-swap of the two receivers stalled on Saturday due to concerns that Coles wants a new contract with figures the Jets aren't willing to meet. Redskins sources remain hopeful that something could change in the next few days.

 

The only way a trade could happen is if Coles is willing to go to the Jets under similar terms as his current contract. If talks resume, they are expected to begin Monday or Tuesday. But in the meantime, they may look to shop Coles elsewhere. Any team hoping to trade for Coles may have to agree with the receiver on a new contract, to avoid an unhappy player.

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[Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly]

I don't know what the fuck he was thinking trying to get into the draft early anyways. One pretty good (not even amazing) season in NCAA football means jackshit when it comes to the NFL and says nothing about his consistency.

I was under the impressino that he tried to enter the draft because he wasn't going to be able to play college ball anymore.

[Guest Vitamin X]

Other way around. When he declared himself eligible for the draft, he was unable to play college ball as a result. When the NFL and the federal appeals court ruled against him entering, the NCAA wouldn't let him go. Same thing went for Mike Williams, as both of them kind of went into football purgatory last year as a result.

[Guest El Satanico]

Issues with his eligability is what initiated him declaring for the draft. It was likely that he was going to lose eligability that year even if he didn't declare.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Issues with his eligability is what initiated him declaring for the draft. It was likely that he was going to lose eligability that year even if he didn't declare.

For faults of his own.

[Guest El Satanico]

Issues with his eligability is what initiated him declaring for the draft. It was likely that he was going to lose eligability that year even if he didn't declare.

For faults of his own.

and?

 

I don't see where I said it wasn't

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

No I was just adding that, so people don't think Clarett is the victim here.

[2GOLD 0]

No I was just adding that, so people don't think Clarett is the victim here.

 

Anyone who thinks Maurice Clarett is a victim worry me anyway.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Some people here sure thinks he is. One radio show said that Ohio State intentionally sabotaged Clarett's chances. Crazy I know.

[Guest Vitamin X]

Mike Williams is more of a victim than Clarett is. There's no telling how good Clarett would have been among the sea of above-average college running backs in the NFL. Mike Williams was a surefire top pick, and the fact that he's still considered top 10 even though he's out of football shape (and don't give me the bullshit of "he kept himself in shape on his own", because I haven't seen a single instance where that's seemed to help out ANY player in the NFL when they've held out and claimed the same thing) says a lot about his ability as a receiver.

[Fökai 0]

Mike Williams is a victim.

Corrected.

[2GOLD 0]

Mike Williams is a victim.

Corrected.

 

Agreed.

But he'll be ok, he might need a year to get set up he'll be ok.

[Guest MikeSC]

Anybody watching the combine? I saw parts of it, it's a pretty interesting look at what goes on in coaches' minds while they're assessing the talent of the soon-to-be rookies.

 

Is Clarett there?

He said he was going to WOW everyone.

 

Is he even there or has he decided he'll WOW them with a video tape, slightly edited?

Clarett was there. I think they said his 40 time unofficially was a 4.7 and earlier he had run a 4.8. I don't know when they put out official times.

 

A 4.7 or a 4.8?

Usually running backs have times between 4.3 and 4.5...cornerbacks get at least 4.6.

 

Hell, there were some 304 pound linemen who last year ran a 4.7. Terry Johnson from Washington to be exact.

 

That certainly doesn't WOW me, except maybe, "Wow, that is very unimpressive."

 

He better do well in the shuttle drill or he will easily become the last running back on the whole board of 18.

If he's drafted at all, that GM should be fired. An injury-prone above-average RB who didn't exactly dominate against good competition (people forget he only pulled down, what, 46 yds in the national title game?)

 

Clarett is not a pro-level talent --- and his actions off-the-field makes him even worse.

-=Mike

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Hell I think Frank Gore'd make a better pick than Clarett, even with the torn up knees.

[Guest El Satanico]

Some people here sure thinks he is. One radio show said that Ohio State intentionally sabotaged Clarett's chances. Crazy I know.

I have issues with how Ohio State handled alot of it, but I don't ignore Clarett's part in it.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Some people here sure thinks he is. One radio show said that Ohio State intentionally sabotaged Clarett's chances. Crazy I know.

I have issues with how Ohio State handled alot of it, but I don't ignore Clarett's part in it.

What don't you agree with about OSU's handling of the Clarett situation? I'm curious.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

BTW, anyone else who thinks Adrian McPherson could be a steal in the draft?

[jimmy no nose 0]

The local channels are all saying Jerome Bettis has agreed to take another pay cut and play another season for the Steelers. He will be making $1.5 million this season.

[Damaramu 0]

Mike Williams is a victim.

Corrected.

 

Agreed.

But he'll be ok, he might need a year to get set up he'll be ok.

I think Williams will be an immediate impact.

At USC the guy scored a TD like 1 out of every 4 times he was thrown that ball(i think that was the number). Granted he had a Heisman Trophy winner throwing him the ball but I mean a lot of NFL QB's are better now than Leinart was. And yeah he'll be dealing with NFL defenses but I think the guy will still do great. He's a natually gifted individual and he's got so much size. He'll be one of those guys that you can throw the ball in his general area and not have to throw it straight on the numbers and he'll go up and get it. Like a Randy Moss or Jerry Rice. Though I think he'll be a lot of power. I think he can throw his body into those DB's and get good results. Especially after he gets bulked up by the NFL.

 

And these guys that are so naturally talented I don't think have as much rust as others. Look at Willis McGahee. That guy was out for a year with a broken leg and had a terriffic season.....and it was only a half a season!

[teke184 0]

The only way that Clarett should make an NFL roster is if he's an undrafted free agent who gets a "what the fuck, we can always cut him later" contract after the draft.

 

 

This kid has serious attitude problems and isn't blowing anyone away, so there's a good chance he'll fall off the boards completely, thus allowing someone to pick him up after the draft with little risk, as he'd only cost a roster space during training camp and not a draft pick.

[Guest Vitamin X]

Mike Williams is a victim.

Corrected.

 

Agreed.

But he'll be ok, he might need a year to get set up he'll be ok.

I think Williams will be an immediate impact.

At USC the guy scored a TD like 1 out of every 4 times he was thrown that ball(i think that was the number). Granted he had a Heisman Trophy winner throwing him the ball but I mean a lot of NFL QB's are better now than Leinart was. And yeah he'll be dealing with NFL defenses but I think the guy will still do great. He's a natually gifted individual and he's got so much size. He'll be one of those guys that you can throw the ball in his general area and not have to throw it straight on the numbers and he'll go up and get it. Like a Randy Moss or Jerry Rice. Though I think he'll be a lot of power. I think he can throw his body into those DB's and get good results. Especially after he gets bulked up by the NFL.

 

And these guys that are so naturally talented I don't think have as much rust as others. Look at Willis McGahee. That guy was out for a year with a broken leg and had a terriffic season.....and it was only a half a season!

Wasn't Carson Palmer the guy throwing him the ball when he was playing for SC?

[Damaramu 0]

His Sophomore year where he had the huge year was Leinart. It was USC's first national title year.

[Guest Vitamin X]

By the way, it was reported today that Mike Williams changed his mind about running in the private workouts and ran a 4.59 in the 40s today. Not among the 5 fastest wideouts, but I have a feeling he's going to turn out to be a T.O.-type receiver, using his size, strength, and crisp route running to be an outstanding receiver rather than just burning DB's. His speed will probably return in due time, and then he'll be a scary, scary player, barring any injuries of course.

[smh810 0]

dont go strictly by 40 times either remember last years best rookie reciever Michael Clayton also ran a 4.59 40 but the guy has game speed (see his 75 yard TD catch and run against the Cardinals). My gut feeling is Williams will be similar.