USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2005 If you bring back Brock and have him right at the top at the start, then you run through all the main event matchups in about 6 months or so and its back to complaining that WWE is stale and boring. An angle with actual build up gives you more time with Brock as a draw before everyone sees the matches they want to see. Not necessarily, as there are some feuds Lesnar had already started but hasn't capped off yet, like Rudo mentioned, with Benoit and possibly Eddie. Then you have all those Raw stars Brock hasn't faced yet like Orton, Batista, HHH, HBK, Jericho, etc. Carefully booked and planned, it could take a year for Brock to finally ease back into the title picture. Hardly stale, IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CBright7831 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2005 Didn't Lesnar kill Orton once on Smackdown!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2005 If you bring back Brock and have him right at the top at the start, then you run through all the main event matchups in about 6 months or so and its back to complaining that WWE is stale and boring. An angle with actual build up gives you more time with Brock as a draw before everyone sees the matches they want to see. Because doing those matches in the first six months will make the most money. The key is, while those big money matches are being done, to build people up, so that when the first set of big money matches have been done, you can move on to another set of big money matches, this time with Lesnar putting over the new guys. How is the effect different from last year where Eddie Guerrero was in the ring with Benoit? Granted, there's a difference between two friends celebrating their recent success and a showdown between two potential rivals, but neither would hurt the end of Wrestlemania. It's creating a visual effect that you cannot replicate at any other PPVs (besides any other joint brands) and Lesnar should remain on Smackdown, not going over to Raw to confront Batista. It was totally different. The focus at the end of WM XX, as well as being on Benoit's win, was the, supposed, dawn of a new era on Raw and SD. With Batista and Lesnar, it would be the teasing of a meeting between two monsters. Not to mention, what best way to end the year with the new monster facing the previous monster? If you're worried about a showdown ruining Batista's moment, you could also have Lesnar come down and shake his hand in respect, but also making it clear he intends to gun for him. The new monster's crowning moment should be his alone. As for Lesnar shaking his hand, that isn't the Lesnar that is going to draw. See, I don't care about Batista's win, so I'm willing to sacrifice his "big moment" for the killer face-to-face showdown. It contrasts WM20's finish with Guerrero/Benoit hugging, and makes for a nice transition from HHH to Lesnar. For a potential Batista v Lesnar match to get the most juice, Batista needs to be seen as on the top level, and for that to happen, the closing moment of WM XXI should be a triumphant Batista standing over a fallen and unconscious Triple H. There shouldn't be anyone else involved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2005 BUT, Lesnar coming out at the end says that for Batista, there is no time to stop and smell the roses. He went from the frying pan with HHH, into the fire with Lesnar. And um, an apple a day keeps the doctor away. Of course, that means HHH has to take a step down. Which is why it would never happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2005 Brock Lesnar shouldn't be at Mania anyways. That I agree with, HTQ, but should he be, that was the scenario I'd be willing to accept him in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2005 I say they give it away at Mania and then actually bring him out the next night on Raw, but not actually give it away as they did Goldberg at Mania 19 with a whole ad and video footage. Say, before the title match, that weird warped sound from the start Lesnar's entrance theme plays, and then nothing except the crowd freaking out, then the match goes on like normal. Kind of like the Taker teasers but not as blatantly obvious with the lights going out and everything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted January 30, 2005 Yeah, I want Lesnar back. For his weight he's the most athletic superstar I've seen and the potential for him to have great matches is strong. Brock vs Rey I enjoyed a lot, Brock vs Eddie I liked and Brock vs Benoit I loved to death. As a wrestling fan, that's what I want to see. I seriously can not see how anyone who calls themselves a wrestling fan would not want Brock Lesnar back. And besides, I want Lesnar vs Benoit one more time even though the ideal circumstances for their match are not here anymore. WP -- Still upset over the WWE ruining the Benoit/Lesnar feud just to have Benoit become an afterthought in the build to Mania. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2005 I hope I die before WP just so I can have "He died incredibly disappointed that Lesnar/Benoit didn't happen at the 2004 Royal Rumble" on my tombstone first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sonic Reducer 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2005 Matter of fact, yes I do. They could do a million different angles with the way that he left, and I think that he's still got a lot to offer the business. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2005 I hope I die before WP just so I can have "He died incredibly disappointed that Lesnar/Benoit didn't happen at the 2004 Royal Rumble" on my tombstone first. I think Benoit drawing #1 and winning the rumble is better, consider the rumble was a classic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted January 30, 2005 I hope I die before WP just so I can have "He died incredibly disappointed that Lesnar/Benoit didn't happen at the 2004 Royal Rumble" on my tombstone first. I always wanted something on my grave like "I kicked BUTT, chewed bubblegum and I'm now all out of bubblegum" so when someone comes to visit my grave and reads it I rise up and once again start kicking BUTT until of course I get a piece of bubblegum. They should do something like that for Resident Evil. But the Lesnar/Benoit bit is good too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2005 Yeah, well... Your mother was constantly drunk during her pregnancy with you in her womb and dropped you on your head constantly during your formative years. ...I'm sorry you had to hear that from me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted January 30, 2005 I hope I die before WP just so I can have "He died incredibly disappointed that Lesnar/Benoit didn't happen at the 2004 Royal Rumble" on my tombstone first. I think Benoit drawing #1 and winning the rumble is better, consider the rumble was a classic. Edit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toxxic 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2005 I want Lesnar back, and I want him in one of two ways. Either as the monster heel he was when debuting, or the monster face he became afterwards. The chickenshit Lesnar heel was BOLLOCKS. And although face lesnar SHOULDN'T work, I think it did for the simple reason that it meant he could pull out his incredibly hard-looking moves AT THE RIGHT SPEED. Face Lesnar was like an unstoppable juggernaut that threw people around like dolls. Remember the standing belly-to-bellys on Shelton Benjamin? Or the time that Benjamin came back out of the corner from an Irish whip to attack the charging Lesnar and Brock just shoved him back in? Yeah, I hated seeing one guy go over the Tag Champions but it looked AMAZING. Shit heel Lesnar did his moves, but really slowly and boringly because he had to be a dominant arse instead of an arse-kicker. Bring him back, shove him in the main event and watch the viewing figures go up. Not a lot, but probably a bit. I'd watch SD again for Lesnar, and that's saying something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sonic Reducer 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2005 I want Lesnar back, and I want him in one of two ways. Either as the monster heel he was when debuting, or the monster face he became afterwards. This I completely agree with. They should replicate what they did with him when he debuted. Not even really have him talk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2005 Did I miss a news tidbit that said Lesnar had suddenly found a passion for the pro wrestling business? Because unless I did, he's still the same guy who was so unhappy with the business less than a year ago that he wanted out in the worst way. I know money talks, but who's to say he wouldn't just eventually become unhappy again if he were to come back? I always enjoyed him in the ring, but if he doesn't want to be there, then why bother? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted January 31, 2005 Did I miss a news tidbit that said Lesnar had suddenly found a passion for the pro wrestling business? Because unless I did, he's still the same guy who was so unhappy with the business less than a year ago that he wanted out in the worst way. I know money talks, but who's to say he wouldn't just eventually become unhappy again if he were to come back? I always enjoyed him in the ring, but if he doesn't want to be there, then why bother? One can be unhappy but yet happy in what they're doing at the same time. Lesnar may not love everything about the wrestling buisness but the fact remains he does have a passion for doing what he does. You can see it in his work. Call it pride, ego or whatever. The bottom line is Lesnar tries. I've done it myself before. I'll absolutely hate what I'm doing but I'll still work the hardest at it. It's called ego, the single greatest thing for being a succesful professional wrestler. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites