Slayer Posted September 27, 2008 Report Posted September 27, 2008 Based off your top five, which show you're largely a power and "opera" metal fan, I'm not sure if you would like PL, especially based off your opinion on their live performance. One caveat is, much like Frank Zappa, they never keep the same sound for more than two albums or so and really like to change things up... one of the reasons I love them, but can be a turnoff for quite a few. PL discography Three stylistically different starting points - Draconian Times, One Second and Paradise Lost. Check out those three and we'll go from there based on what you like. As for Nightwish, I actually enjoy them and would certainly put Wishmaster or Once (probably the former) on my top 20 list for this decade. Unfortunately, as with many bands before them, the fallout and split with Tarja has proven a problem for both sides. Tarja's solo effort was awful, and I disagree strongly with the internet metal communities love for DPP. I didn't like that one at all. The new singer's (whose name I can't even bother to look up) voice fails miserably as far as working with the old-style epic songs. Much as it pains me to say this, this is one case where a metal band taking a "poppier" direction might be a good thing, as her voice was much better suited for those types of songs off DPP.
haws bah gawd Posted September 27, 2008 Report Posted September 27, 2008 Thanks for the info. I'll hit up Blogspot later and see if I can get hold of those PL albums. I feel the same way regarding Tarja's solo album. "I Walk Alone" was a good effort, but dear lord the rest of that album is horrible beyond imagination. I don't know what she was thinking with "Poison". I enjoyed DPP. It was a dramatic change for Nightwish, but I thought it was one of the better albums I bought last year (the one track I really detested was "Meadows of Heaven"). "The Poet and the Pendulum" is one of my favorite tracks from them, and Marco is going a good job maintaining the epic metal sound they have while Annette does the "poppy" vocals. IMO, Annette does a decent enough job adding her own vocal style to some of the classic NW stuff in concert, such as "Wish I Had an Angel", "Nemo", and "Ever Dream".
Gary Floyd Posted September 28, 2008 Report Posted September 28, 2008 My picks 5.) Atheist 4.) Agalloch 3.) Godflesh 2.) Electric Wizard 1.) Death
JJ Johnson Posted September 28, 2008 Report Posted September 28, 2008 5) Nevermore 4) Machine Head 3) Mastodon 2) Akercocke 1) Death Now, since we're all big Death fans, album rankings? Mine looks something like this. 6) Scream Bloody Gore 5) Individual Thought Patterns 4) The Sound of Perseverance 3) Human 2) Symbolic 1) Leprosy
Nighthawk Posted September 28, 2008 Report Posted September 28, 2008 My favorite metal bands remain Agoraphobic Nosebleed and Pig Destroyer. Two sides of the same coin, really.
Slayer Posted September 28, 2008 Report Posted September 28, 2008 Death albums 1) Symbolic 1a) Human (just too close to call it #2) 2) ITP 3) Leprosy 4) SH 5) TSOP 6) SBG
Guest Tzar Lysergic Posted September 28, 2008 Report Posted September 28, 2008 Oh man, ranking Death albums? Leprosy Symbolic Scream Bloody Gore The Sound of Perseverance Human Individual Thought Patterns Spiritual Healing That's hard.
Guest Tzar Lysergic Posted September 28, 2008 Report Posted September 28, 2008 I'm the only one that likes Scream Bloody Gore that much? Love that raw shit.
Corey_Lazarus Posted September 29, 2008 Report Posted September 29, 2008 I only have Leprosy and The Sounds of Perseverance. I feel ashamed. Ah...Nevermore...anybody actually pick up This Godless Endeavour after that atrocity known as Enemies of Reality? Amazing return. I'd say it's on par with Dreaming Neon Black and Dead Heart in a Dead World, if not better. "Born (Retribution of Spiritual Sickness)" is such a perfect fucking Nevermore song it's hilarious.
Gary Floyd Posted September 29, 2008 Report Posted September 29, 2008 Well, if we're talking Death albums 7.) Scream Bloody Gore 6.) Spiritual Healing 5.) Leprosy 4.) Sound of Perseverance 3.) Symbolic 2.) Individual Thought Patterns 1.) Human Pestilence were an underrated band.
Red Baron Posted September 29, 2008 Report Posted September 29, 2008 Other than Cryptopsy, Death and Nile I have zero knowledge of death metal. My five favourite bands with a gun to my head Iron Maiden Megadeth Dio Testament Mastodon
Slayer Posted September 29, 2008 Report Posted September 29, 2008 Ah...Nevermore...anybody actually pick up This Godless Endeavour after that atrocity known as Enemies of Reality? Amazing return. I'd say it's on par with Dreaming Neon Black and Dead Heart in a Dead World, if not better. "Born (Retribution of Spiritual Sickness)" is such a perfect fucking Nevermore song it's hilarious. TGE is on my Top 20 Metal CDs of the 00's (so far), for sure As for EOR, did you only dislike it because of the awful muddled production of the first release? If so, they did release a properly produced version of the CD at the same time as TGE. I couldn't even listen to the muddled version more than once, but the proper version is a good CD. Not as good as the albums prior and succeeding it, but good nonetheless
Corey_Lazarus Posted September 29, 2008 Report Posted September 29, 2008 I just didn't care for any of the songs on it. The "big" single off it was the sub-par "I, Voyager," which was basically a reminder of early (read: pretty fucking lame) Nevermore. The s/t is only really listenable for "What Tomorrow Knows" and "Garden of Grey." In Memory EP and Politics of Ecstasy are rather forgettable, IIRC (only listened to them, never owned them), and Dreaming is solid but, really, doesn't hold up too well to repeated listenings. Dead Heart is still great, though, and Godless is pure brilliance. Warrel's solo stuff isn't bad, but...yeah. Anybody else looking forward to checking out Get Thrashed?
JJ Johnson Posted September 29, 2008 Report Posted September 29, 2008 I just didn't care for any of the songs on it. The "big" single off it was the sub-par "I, Voyager," which was basically a reminder of early (read: pretty fucking lame) Nevermore. The s/t is only really listenable for "What Tomorrow Knows" and "Garden of Grey." In Memory EP and Politics of Ecstasy are rather forgettable, IIRC (only listened to them, never owned them), and Dreaming is solid but, really, doesn't hold up too well to repeated listenings. Dead Heart is still great, though, and Godless is pure brilliance. Warrel's solo stuff isn't bad, but...yeah. You know so much about nothing at all! Dreaming is their second-heaviest album behind Enemies of Reality. Now, just because Enemies is heavy doesn't mean it's good, this being Job For A Cowboy's Law, and I don't care for it myself. Dead Heart's nothing special, though, and Politics and the self-titled are good if you're into Jeff and Warrel's old band, Sanctuary.
Nighthawk Posted September 29, 2008 Report Posted September 29, 2008 I listened to Scream Bloody Gore yesterday, and yeah... I like it too. It's not as technical but it's still fucking heavy. Currently listening to Slowly We Rot. Old school Florida metal: seriously fucking brutal.
Gary Floyd Posted September 30, 2008 Report Posted September 30, 2008 Gates of Slumber's Conquerer just knocked Nachtmystium's Assassins off as my best metal album of he year pick. Doom Metal with Conan the Barbarian references=awesome.
The Niggardly King Posted September 30, 2008 Report Posted September 30, 2008 Wow a lot of Death fans here... I'm going to give them a lesson and come back with an OPINION
Corey_Lazarus Posted October 2, 2008 Report Posted October 2, 2008 I listened to Scream Bloody Gore yesterday, and yeah... I like it too. It's not as technical but it's still fucking heavy. Currently listening to Slowly We Rot. Old school Florida metal: seriously fucking brutal. Obituary was actually tainted for me by Six Feet Under. The first SFU album, Haunted, is just loaded to the gills with Obituary riffs (considering the guitarist from Obituary was the guitarist for SFU; Allen West, IIRC), so whenever I do hear old Obituary I'm just like "yeah...meh..." Which sucks, because I really would like to get into them more.
NoCalMike Posted October 3, 2008 Report Posted October 3, 2008 Suffocation should be on everyone's Top 5.
JJ Johnson Posted October 4, 2008 Report Posted October 4, 2008 Suffocation very nearly made my top 5. Kickass band.
Guest Vitamin X Posted October 4, 2008 Report Posted October 4, 2008 Also, .. My five favourite bands with a gun to my head ... Dio .. *snort*
Slayer Posted October 4, 2008 Report Posted October 4, 2008 I'm glad NCM can tell me what my favorite bands should be Suffocation is allright, but they're nowhere near my top five overall, and probably not even in my top five just for death metal. Let's see Death Obituary Opeth Dark Tranquility Morbid Angel Okay, if I flesh it out to ten, they'd be in the 6-10 somewhere
Copper Feel Posted October 4, 2008 Report Posted October 4, 2008 My top erm, 3 metal bands: 3. Dream Theatre 2. Mastodon 1. Black Sabbath I get the idea that I would quite like heavy metal (as a whole) if I just sampled more of it. I don't have any desire to hear anything that is played past a certain speed though.
Guest Vitamin X Posted October 4, 2008 Report Posted October 4, 2008 You could always listen to more doom, then.
Corey_Lazarus Posted October 5, 2008 Report Posted October 5, 2008 Or to...well, all of the stuff I like is fast...uhhh...Demolition Hammer's Time Bomb album is kinda slow and groovy, though...their worst, but it's better than a lot of recent shit. Okay...so what's everybody's opinion on this deathcore shyte? Animosity, Despised Icon, Job For A Cowboy, and The Red Chord all have their moments, but it just seems like everybody else (and even these four) aren't even really trying to push their own boundaries. Seems like most newer bands just relax and record the same shit over and over again.
Red Baron Posted October 5, 2008 Report Posted October 5, 2008 Also, .. My five favourite bands with a gun to my head ... Dio .. *snort* Pure awesomeness
Guest Tzar Lysergic Posted October 5, 2008 Report Posted October 5, 2008 Let's all listen to some Bolt Thrower
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