Guest Deadbolt Report post Posted February 12, 2005 These three are all out with pretty bad injuries. All three are pretty critical, or if used correctly could be, to their respective parts of the programming they are on. So when they come back, what roles do you think they should play?--and why? RVD--I'd like to see RVD get a good US title push. Let him once again establish himself as a good wrestler. Have him start off against someone like John Cena, or whoever is the champ at the time, have a good 2 or three month feud with them. Let him win the belt, and have a good, not too long, reign with it. Then, I would test him in the main event. He needs to be a heel, so if someone like Mysterio had the belt when he returned, that would make a perfect opportunity for a heel turn from him. RVD just isn't the same as a face, opposed to a heel, in my opinion. Matt Hardy--I'd try and put him in the upper mid card, with guys like Christian, Jericho, and Shelton. His style fits theirs to a tee, and he could really make a name for himself there. Bring Hardy back as a face, and have him feud with Christian, and re-establish himself, due to being off for as long as he has. Lita--Bring her back as a MANAGER to Matt. She's a good wrestler and all, but she's become just too much of a liability with all of her injuries in recent matches of hers. Have her manage Matt. Kane could get involved sometime(not right off the bat), Hardy vs. Kane again, and a possible Lita heel turn on Matt. But anything but a wrestler for Lita, she's just too much of a risk in my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2005 Send Lita to TNA so she can sit in the back of the truck with the other women. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hass of Pain Report post Posted February 12, 2005 This is the only time that Rob Van Dam has been out with an injury for any meaningful amount of time since coming to World Wrestling Entertainment. It's a blessing in disguise because he'd gotten really stale and they need to bring him back after a long break with a huge bang. He really needs to go heel, and if they put Paul Heyman with him as a manager and he does something shocking when he comes back like punking out Rey Mysterio and giving him the Van Terminator, he could be an instant main event level heel and one of the most interesting main eventers on either roster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Shadow Behind You Report post Posted February 12, 2005 I'm more curious to see what they do with Mark Henry when he returns... does he go after Benoit who kayfabed injured his shoulder? Or do you think they'll stick him with Viscera as a team or just leave him on the sidelines til the huge contract expires. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChick 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2005 Lita really should not come back as a wrestler and should never be a staple in the women's division. I know it may not even be around by the time she comes back, but if it is, keep her out of it. I'd even say cut the cord and fire her if she wasn't so popular. Keep her in a Hardy Boy's chick role, like she was back in the day. I don't think she should manage Matt though. In my opinion, he was best as Mattitude on Smackdown. Before that, he was a Hardy boy. After that, he was, uh, what the hell was he with Lita? Lita's boyfriend? Dude deserves a chance to make it on his own and not let Lita overshadow him. RVD will hopefully be back by the ECW PPV and should main event that. From there, we'll see I guess. I'm hoping for at least a main event run. I'm not holding my breathe at a title run though, unless it's the US or Tag title. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vigo 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2005 The problem with RVD being a heel is that the fans will cheer him on no matter what. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2005 Have RVD and Eddie as a tag team then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BrokenWings Report post Posted February 12, 2005 I'd like to see Matt come back as a tweener-heel, and twist of fate Lita for getting close to Kane in his absense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Twisted Intestine 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2005 Funny. Kane rapes Lita/Lita fucks Kane, Matt Hardy battles the monster for Lita's love, Lita marries Kane and becomes close to him, Matt Hardy Twist of Fates Lita and goes after Kane making Hardy the heel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BrokenWings Report post Posted February 12, 2005 Funny. Kane rapes Lita/Lita fucks Kane, Matt Hardy battles the monster for Lita's love, Lita marries Kane and becomes close to him, Matt Hardy Twist of Fates Lita and goes after Kane making Hardy the heel. WWE logic, not my own, for the record. Well, actually, it's more stupid fans. The WWE just put it out there, and the fans decide who's face/heel. I just imagine Hardy would get jeered for TOF'ing Lita, rather than cheered. I do think this would be the best role for him once he returns, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BrokenWings Report post Posted February 12, 2005 I just don't know how they could manage another Kane/Hardy feud, which would be inevitable, without hurting either character. Kane's been fucked around too much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Twisted Intestine 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2005 I just don't know how they could manage another Kane/Hardy feud, which would be inevitable, without hurting either character. Kane's been fucked around too much. Unless.. Hardy comes back and Twist of Fate's Lita, turning him heel.. Kane comes out to the ring "Bah gawd~! He's going to exterminate Matt Hardy!" Kane just smiles and shakes hands with Matt, and they become a heel tag team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultra Violence 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2005 Snitsky said "I was just doing my job... ITS NOT MY FAULT~~~~!" Make Matt Hardy be the man who hired Snitsky to abort Kane's baby and take out Kane. Hardy instantly becomes a hated heel (or smark face) for causing the abortion and forms a stable of sorts with Snitsky. Later on they get drafted to Smackdown.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2005 How did they handle RVD's injury on TV? Did they pinpoint a moment he got hurt or just say, "well, RVD's hurt"? Here's what I'd do. Give Mysterio the US Title while RVD is out (this is assuming Cena takes the world title). When RVD comes back, he wants to start his team with Rey back up, but Rey shoots him down because he's too busy defending the US title to go after the tag belts. RVD plays it off with a, "hey, that's cool man" but then turns on Rey a few weeks later, maybe when Rey comes to him for backup against a heel duo. This is going to require a golden interview trashing the fans and guys like Rey for his lack of success on SD!, saying he was content to be a fun guy and entertain the fans but he got nothing out of it. Hopefully RVD can make a return to the aloof, semi-pissed arrogance of his ECW days rather than the happy stoner guy he's become. Bringing Paul Heyman in as his manager a few weeks later would probably seal the deal, as the fans hate Heyman, and it wouldn't force RVD to stretch himself on the mic, where he's liable to get the fans back on his side by accident. This would also require RVD to modify his moveset, something he's definitely capable of, but by his own admission hasn't had motivation, or pressure from management, to do. His ring work would be the key to keeping him a strong, believeable heel, as he really needs to be a dick in the ring and can't do stuff like rolling thunder and the monkey flip out of the corner. I'd make it more strike/submission based, with whatever mean-spirited wrinkles he can throw in, eye gouges, chokes, etc. Early on, teases of his popular spots without payoffs should get good heat as well. After the feud with Rey, transition into a program with Guerrero, and if the character is hot enough, maybe with Cena over the world title. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChick 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2005 How did they handle RVD's injury on TV? Did they pinpoint a moment he got hurt or just say, "well, RVD's hurt"? He came out with a big knee brace and could barely walk. Him and Rey defended their titles again Eddie/Booker, Luther/Jintrak and the Bashams. When it was Rey/Rob and the Bashams left, one of them tripped Rob up and slammed the ring steps against his knee. He was stretchered out, Rey lost and it hasn't really been mentioned since. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ransome Report post Posted February 12, 2005 Snitsky said "I was just doing my job... ITS NOT MY FAULT~~~~!" Make Matt Hardy be the man who hired Snitsky to abort Kane's baby and take out Kane. Hardy instantly becomes a hated heel (or smark face) for causing the abortion and forms a stable of sorts with Snitsky. Later on they get drafted to Smackdown.... Perfect. As for RVD, when he returns he *must* get a World title push. It'll probably be his last chance before they forget about him again, so they've gotta use it. They can't blow their opportunity by putting him in the US title hunt again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericholic82 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2005 I think its fine if rvd gets cheered as a heel at least he would have his true character/persona back, then you can make him a tweener who gets monster cheers (like he was for preety much all his career) and I think they need bill alphonso instead of heyman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toxxic 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2005 For all the fact that I find Lita VERY attractive, despite her increasing chubbiness and wrinkledness, she isn't and shouldn't be the mainstay of anything. I don't mind watching her in the ring (and not just through aforementioned attractiveness), but come on... she sucks on the mic, she's not great in-ring even for a Diva and generally... no. Matt Hardy on the other hand - WHY hasn't this man been pushed? He put on some great matches in the first US Title tournament and is capable of portraying both a vicious heel and a sympathetic face. He's not the best interview in the world, but neither is Benoit. Granted Matt isn't the technical wrestler Benoit is, but this is WWE-style, and he's grown up with that. RVD - nope. Sorry. He should be pushed and it'd be good if he was, but he always is and will be an ECW product and Vince will always see Heyman when he looks at him. If he's forced to work WWE-style he won't be the same, and if he can't work that style he won't be pushed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChick 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2005 Lita's been getting chubby? Seriously? Because if I had to name a positive about her, her body would be it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toxxic 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2005 Well, allegedly. Instead of the pseudo-sixpack she had for a while it seems there's a little more flesh down there now. Personally I can deal with that on a girl. And even if her breasts are implants, they're much more realistic-looking than the other Divas, so i can live with that too. And I still think she's pretty. I seem to be the only one though, as everyone else here has a thing for Molly-with-the-arse-the-size-of-Quebec. That's TOO much flesh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Decadent Slacker Report post Posted February 13, 2005 Snitsky said "I was just doing my job... ITS NOT MY FAULT~~~~!" Make Matt Hardy be the man who hired Snitsky to abort Kane's baby and take out Kane. Hardy instantly becomes a hated heel (or smark face) for causing the abortion and forms a stable of sorts with Snitsky. Later on they get drafted to Smackdown.... It should be revealed that the baby Hardy hired Snitsky abort was actually Matt's, & that Lita only told him it was Kane's out of fear. So, in effect, Matt had his own child rubbed out. Then he goes insane or something & by May it's never mentioned again. I hate the fact this company has damaged me so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Twisted Intestine 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2005 They should just never mention Lita ever getting pragnant again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2005 I think they need bill alphonso instead of heyman I do too, but it would never happen. If they wanted to use Fonzie they would have done it by now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2005 If Fonzie comes back...and RVD has an interpromotional match with Muhammad Hassan. ...the Whistle vs. Daivari...ugh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChick 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2005 I love Daivari! That man is hilarious. Seriously, he's the only reason I watch Muhammad's matches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaosrage 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2005 I think its fine if rvd gets cheered as a heel at least he would have his true character/persona back, then you can make him a tweener who gets monster cheers (like he was for preety much all his career) and I think they need bill alphonso instead of heyman That would never work because as soon as he started getting cheered, they would make him turn into a typical babyface. Just like they do with every heel except for Austin and Rock. RVD - nope. Sorry. He should be pushed and it'd be good if he was, but he always is and will be an ECW product and Vince will always see Heyman when he looks at him. If he's forced to work WWE-style he won't be the same, and if he can't work that style he won't be pushed. But he can. Case in point, KOTR 2002 with Jericho. He's not the best at it, but he was doing pretty well for a guy that had to change his whole style a year before that. I'm sure he would've got even better at it and will get better if they ever decide to use him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted February 13, 2005 It really shouldn't be all that complex to turn Matt Hardy heel on Lita and Kane. Quite Simply, He was the guy that Got Snitsky to do the Attack to end Lita's pregnancy.... Matt, so turn up with hate and jealous that a Demon Seed was pulsating and growing inside Lita's Grundgy body that he Called upon some Nameless jobber to end it by "Inadvertantly" smacking Kane into her. Perhaps even having Kane to blame, and in return this Nameless jobber would get a name for himself. well Snitsky got a name for himself alright, and the mission was accomplished, and after all Gene was right Its not his fault, Its Matt Hardy's.... great returning Promo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2005 Snitsky never said he was "doing my job". He said "I was out there to do A job." He was referring to his then unknown status and the inside "job"-ber term. There was no hiree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Age 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2005 Kane and Matt will be a face tag team when Matt returns. I'm sure of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted February 13, 2005 Snitsky never said he was "doing my job". He said "I was out there to do A job." He was referring to his then unknown status and the inside "job"-ber term. There was no hiree. doesn't mean it wasn't done as a hired job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites