Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted March 7, 2005 Hey Mike, if you hate Maher that much, what do you think of David Cross? Disagree with him politically, but he's hilarious. I saw his stand-up special on HBO a few years back and almost died laughing. See, I don't get this, he is way more offensive towards conservatives than Maher could ever hope to be, and more unamerican, at least by what you view as unamerican. If you were offended by all those things Maher said, this guy referred to 9/11 as "The week football stopped" and talked about the smell of the dead bodies upsetting him, totally trivialising the situation. He is pretty hilarious, although I think he recently has dragged the religion thing a little too much and needs to start being funny again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted March 7, 2005 Hey Mike, if you hate Maher that much, what do you think of David Cross? Disagree with him politically, but he's hilarious. I saw his stand-up special on HBO a few years back and almost died laughing. See, I don't get this, he is way more offensive towards conservatives than Maher could ever hope to be, and more unamerican, at least by what you view as unamerican. He's also ACTUALLY funny. Maher is not and has not been in a long, long time. Cross is a moron politically, but he's funny. If you were offended by all those things Maher said, this guy referred to 9/11 as "The week football stopped" and talked about the smell of the dead bodies upsetting him, totally trivialising the situation. But he was ACTUALLY FUNNY. He is pretty hilarious, although I think he recently has dragged the religion thing a little too much and needs to start being funny again. I've missed any of his religion stuff recently. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted March 9, 2005 She is one of the funniest people out there. And she actually does make cogent arguments. Ann Coulter Logic: -Liberal X said this statement/might believe this position/has this character flaw. -Saying this statement/believing this position/having this character flaw makes you evil. -Liberal X is evil. -All liberals are the same. -All liberals, therefore, are evil. Its the same attack strategy Michael Moore uses on conservatives. They're both idiots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BDC Report post Posted March 9, 2005 She is one of the funniest people out there. And she actually does make cogent arguments. Ann Coulter Logic: -Liberal X said this statement/might believe this position/has this character flaw. -Saying this statement/believing this position/having this character flaw makes you evil. -Liberal X is evil. -All liberals are the same. -All liberals, therefore, are evil. Its the same attack strategy Michael Moore uses on conservatives. They're both idiots. Jerk, who do you see embraced more between the two? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BUTT 0 Report post Posted March 9, 2005 Moore, because Republicans don't NEED to embrace people like Coulter. The Dems went crazy over Moore, despite him repeatedly saying that he doesn't even like the Democratic Party and was only supporting them because he wanted to see Bush lose, which makes it even more pathetic. I also think Republicans' obsession with Moore is pretty sad, however. He's just a big fat man who doesn't like the president. Get the fuck over it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Special K 0 Report post Posted March 9, 2005 Well, Moore's much more like the Democractic Limbaugh than the Democratic Coulter. Rall is the Democratic Coulter. Really offensive, and calling the other side ridiculous things is 'funny'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted March 9, 2005 She is one of the funniest people out there. And she actually does make cogent arguments. Ann Coulter Logic: -Liberal X said this statement/might believe this position/has this character flaw. -Saying this statement/believing this position/having this character flaw makes you evil. -Liberal X is evil. -All liberals are the same. -All liberals, therefore, are evil. Its the same attack strategy Michael Moore uses on conservatives. They're both idiots. Jerk, who do you see embraced more between the two? My embracometer is busted, so I couldn't tell you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BUTT 0 Report post Posted March 9, 2005 Well, Terry McAuliffe apparently was all buddy-buddy with Fat Mikey, at least according to the conservatives on this board (I wasn't really paying attention but I'll take their word for it), but then Terry Mac is a huge idiot so I hope despite his former position of power people don't confuse him with all Democrats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2005 Not least of which, because NONE of the reasons Maher listed are why they hate us. So, you know, at a Germany WWII memorial, they couldn't have a historical look at the rise of Hitler and how his power grab lead to the events of the war? That would be considered unpatriotic? While I don't think that something like 9/11 happens because of supporting Israel or whatever, or that we did anything to deserve or earn it, we did help build the monster by who we supported and who we propped up in decades past. It might be useful to remind ourselves not to assume that the enemy of our enemy is always our friend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2005 I see what you're saying, but come on, "Why They Hate Us" is just a little bit self-loathing, don't you think? It's not the most objective choice of words. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BUTT 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2005 True. I think liberals should start asking "Why do they hate YOU???" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2005 Okay now you're just being a dumbshit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted March 10, 2005 Not least of which, because NONE of the reasons Maher listed are why they hate us. So, you know, at a Germany WWII memorial, they couldn't have a historical look at the rise of Hitler and how his power grab lead to the events of the war? That would be considered unpatriotic? If you're attempting to even remotely try to paint a similarity between us and Hitler, you're failing miserably in said effort. While I don't think that something like 9/11 happens because of supporting Israel or whatever, or that we did anything to deserve or earn it, we did help build the monster by who we supported and who we propped up in decades past. It might be useful to remind ourselves not to assume that the enemy of our enemy is always our friend. And we are unaware of this...where? -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2005 I'm not comparing us to Hitler. You're fighting a memorial on the history of events that lead up to this attack happened by saying that any claim other than that we were victimized and that we never did anything to provke such an attack is unpatriotic. So, what I'm saying is, if you were German, would you oppose a place in a WWII memorial where people can learn about the rise of Nazi power and learn from history? Or would you oppose it because it's unpatriotic to think about? We have made mistakes that contribute to the rise of radical Islam in the middle east, we did provide chairty to guerrilla radicals in previous conflicts that seemed to be on our side, we did send oil money to a dictator who drove a hard-line society that went against the values of our own, and we did ignore the warning signs of prior Al-Qeda attacks, and it would be a costly mistake to ignore all that history because it's feels better to think we're flawless. But don't worry, time and the general public's need to feel infallable will win out for you. By the time I'm old, I'm going to be hearing people telling their children that they attacked us because they were angry about our SUVs and skimpy-dressed pop stars and we never did anything wrong and it's all because everybody hates the guy that's number one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted March 10, 2005 I'm not comparing us to Hitler. You're fighting a memorial on the history of events that lead up to this attack happened by saying that any claim other than that we were victimized and that we never did anything to provke such an attack is unpatriotic. Nothing we did warranted what happened. Hate to break it to you. In the case of Germany, Hitler attacked all of his neighbors and was beaten back for that. In our case, we had troops in Arabia at the request of the ruling family --- and that was OBL's stated reason for the attack. They're not exactly comparable. So, what I'm saying is, if you were German, would you oppose a place in a WWII memorial where people can learn about the rise of Nazi power and learn from history? Or would you oppose it because it's unpatriotic to think about? Germany DID cause their own problems, considering how far everybody bent over to avoid a confrontation. We have made mistakes that contribute to the rise of radical Islam in the middle east, we did provide chairty to guerrilla radicals in previous conflicts that seemed to be on our side, we did send oil money to a dictator who drove a hard-line society that went against the values of our own, and we did ignore the warning signs of prior Al-Qeda attacks, and it would be a costly mistake to ignore all that history because it's feels better to think we're flawless. Ok, where are these people who think our history is flawless? I must have missed all of these people who think we've done nothing wrong. There is a world of difference between what Hitler did (attack EVERYBODY around him --- including people he signed peace treaties with) and what we did (geopolitical belief you disagree with). But don't worry, time and the general public's need to feel infallable will win out for you. By the time I'm old, I'm going to be hearing people telling their children that they attacked us because they were angry about our SUVs and skimpy-dressed pop stars and we never did anything wrong and it's all because everybody hates the guy that's number one. They attacked us because we have troops in Arabia. You might want to actually learn why OBL said he did it. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2005 Ok, where are these people who think our history is flawless? I must have missed all of these people who think we've done nothing wrong. Not everyone's as well educated as you are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2005 Mike, you are again confusing my point and think I'm comparing our actions with Hitler's. I am not talking about what was done in either situation, I'm simply using the Nazis because it's an uneasy situation in that country and there's a number of people who would have felt better if nobody ever thought about it again, even if that means that nobody learns something. To me, that's sad. As for whether we have ever done anything to provoke an attack, history will be the judge of that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Special K 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2005 So in conclusion: Ann Coulter is a stupid inflammatory bitch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
