Stephen Joseph 0 Report post Posted March 23, 2005 I did read them, and I personally have no rebuttal, because for one I am not an expert in these matters, NoCal, Before you believe what anyone says about anything, take the time to educate yourself. Presenting an argument, even someone else's, without having taken the time to gain information to use is fruitless. Posting this article and then explaining, through information you've learned, why you think he's got something worth saying, would make a much better argument for other people who remain unconvinced or on the fence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted March 23, 2005 This guy hasn't exactly provided corroboration for his stories. And, wow, NOW (formerly hosted by extreme leftist Bill Moyers) has a bio that is an almost verbatim of his claims. Pardon me if I don't wet myself. -=Mike Ok, but again, I don't see this guy's motivation to lie, this isn't some lifelong hippy liberal, that has been marching on the streets "fighting the good fight" who finally has gotten his fifteen minutes to rant and rave. People who brag about their conservative upbringing are seldom actually conservative. Just saying. You also can't say this is just to attempt to cash in on a book, because he was offered a lot more money to fictionalize his book so it could have been published sooner. Assuming that you believe the guy actually worked for the organizations he did work for, what do you believe his motivation to lie would be? To make money from the anti-American left. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted March 23, 2005 I did read them, and I personally have no rebuttal, because for one I am not an expert in these matters, NoCal, Before you believe what anyone says about anything, take the time to educate yourself. Presenting an argument, even someone else's, without having taken the time to gain information to use is fruitless. Posting this article and then explaining, through information you've learned, why you think he's got something worth saying, would make a much better argument for other people who remain unconvinced or on the fence. I never even said I WAS CONVINCED. I am just posting a first hand account to provoke discussion. It's no different then everyone on here commenting about Terry Schiavo's case when none of us are doctors and/or experts in diagnosing medical conditions. I have said before I don't think trade is an "evil thing" perse, but I am sure there is some nasty things that occur along the way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted March 23, 2005 I pretty much discounted the entire thing when I saw the url, but I was waiting for the SJ response, what with him being an alleged economist and all... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted March 24, 2005 I pretty much discounted the entire thing when I saw the url, but I was waiting for the SJ response, what with him being an alleged economist and all... Well to discount the interview because of the url, then there is no reason not to write off his "10 myths" rebuttal, looking at where that came from. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Joseph 0 Report post Posted March 24, 2005 I have economic facts to back up most of those assertations. They do not hold for all cases, but for most. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted March 24, 2005 I have economic facts to back up most of those assertations. They do not hold for all cases, but for most. Well listing those facts would have been a better rebuttal, then the "10 myths" list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boon 0 Report post Posted March 24, 2005 At least I could read the "10 Myths" article without wanting to jam an icepick into my eye. But that's neither here nor there. The only problem I see w/ globalization is when it turns into Americanization. But if you want to have a true free market, somebody's going to prosper and somebody's going to fail. That's just the way it is, if a global, free market is what you're after. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted March 24, 2005 Well to discount the interview because of the url, then there is no reason not to write off his "10 myths" rebuttal, looking at where that came from. Well, then you would have to assume that I read that hippie "10 myths" link, which I didn't. And I made fun of that reference, too... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Joseph 0 Report post Posted March 24, 2005 The only problem I see w/ globalization is when it turns into Americanization. But if you want to have a true free market, somebody's going to prosper and somebody's going to fail. That's just the way it is, if a global, free market is what you're after. I agree about your point of Americanization. Globalization can hurt emerging economies in the short-term, but is very beneficial to them in the long-run. If markets were truly global and truly free, we'd all be better off 10 years from now. Sadly, theyre not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Ol' Smitty 0 Report post Posted March 24, 2005 Globalization can hurt emerging economies in the short-term, but is very beneficial to them in the long-run. Thank you. All of the strongest economies in the world had a period where they were quite protectionist. These developing countries are forced into liberalizing their economies and into competing with the big boys without the cushion of economic nationalism that the same big boys used during their own development. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Joseph 0 Report post Posted March 24, 2005 Globalization can hurt emerging economies in the short-term, but is very beneficial to them in the long-run. Thank you. All of the strongest economies in the world had a period where they were quite protectionist. These developing countries are forced into liberalizing their economies and into competing with the big boys without the cushion of economic nationalism that the same big boys used during their own development. Actually, all those tariffs and protectionist strategies did was retard the development process of those nations. There used to be support for the 'infant industry' argument of having tariffs, but support for it has waned to a yawn in recent years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites