Jump to content
TSM Forums
Sign in to follow this  
Guest Arnold_OldSchool

Why did God send Jesus to Earth 2005

Recommended Posts

Guest Arnold_OldSchool

I know the purpose was to reopen the gates of Heaven because the World was in such peril, but why didn't He just have another Moses like person be given guidence to right the wrongs of the world.

 

 

I know God promised Noah to never again wipe out the entire world like he did during the great flood, but is it ever biblically explained as to why Jesus was sent down at the point he was?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest Arnold_OldSchool
Find my thread "The Bible Is Literally True". It's in there.

19 pages...ugh

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest BobBacklundRules

From what I believe, Jesus is the human form of God, and 1/3 of the trilogy which to me are the three "faces" or forms of one supreme being, aka God. Since the wages of sin were death, Jesus would have to overcome human death by dying on earth, enduring all the pain and suffering of human death, and three days of suffering after death. By him overcoming death, we would only have to truly believe in God and then we too can overcome death. He also showed us how a true church should be run and how we should live our lives, ie accepting all and loving our neighbors. Which was stuff the church of the time wasn't doing.

 

I think Jesus was sent at the most appropriate time in human history for his message to be heard. Father God could have sent a prophet like Moses, but it would be more appropriate to overcome sin and death by himself alone. And he overcame sin and death for everyone before, after, and during his time on earth.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest cosbywasmurdered
From what I believe, Jesus is the human form of God, and 1/3 of the trilogy

 

Was He a New Hope, Empire Strikes Back, or Return of The Jedi? Because I don't really care for ROTJ

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Find my thread "The Bible Is Literally True". It's in there.

19 pages...ugh

Well, it is a very deep subject. If it helps the first part was mostly Old Testament, so it's in the second half.

 

In short, Jesus' arrival on Earth is the center of existence. Not chronologically the center, because, as somebody said, "God didn't write any good plays". This touches on the rather unknowable subject of the purpose of God. I prefer to remain somewhat ambiguous about my personal beliefs, but I will say that I find atheism utterly ludicrous, and that's a shoot. It can be summed up with the simple cliche "God is love" taken to it's natural conclusion, God is the essence of love. God thrives on love, Love is God... and Jesus is the embodiment of God, and therefore, the embodiment of love. Jesus' presence is the manifestation of love, which is why he must have been who he was, as opposed to a prophet. God ("Love") could do no other, by the nature of his being.

 

Religion and specifically Christianity is one of my passions, if you can't tell. I could go another 19 pages on this, but in a nutshell it's God=Love=Jesus.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest Arnold_OldSchool

So do all believers feel Jesus was the son of God, or do some believe that he was just a prophet.... or perhaps the miracles were overblown or downright lies made up to build Jesus up as a Messiah?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest Arnold_OldSchool
Why do you have against athesim IDRM?

Communists use it as part of their doctorine

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Find my thread "The Bible Is Literally True". It's in there.

19 pages...ugh

Well, it is a very deep subject. If it helps the first part was mostly Old Testament, so it's in the second half.

 

In short, Jesus' arrival on Earth is the center of existence. Not chronologically the center, because, as somebody said, "God didn't write any good plays". This touches on the rather unknowable subject of the purpose of God. I prefer to remain somewhat ambiguous about my personal beliefs, but I will say that I find atheism utterly ludicrous, and that's a shoot. It can be summed up with the simple cliche "God is love" taken to it's natural conclusion, God is the essence of love. God thrives on love, Love is God... and Jesus is the embodiment of God, and therefore, the embodiment of love. Jesus' presence is the manifestation of love, which is why he must have been who he was, as opposed to a prophet. God ("Love") could do no other, by the nature of his being.

 

Religion and specifically Christianity is one of my passions, if you can't tell. I could go another 19 pages on this, but in a nutshell it's God=Love=Jesus.

isn't that what Ghostbusters 2 was about?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Why do you have against athesim IDRM?

It's a simple equation. Matter exists. In order for atheism to be correct, matter came from nothing. That's spontaneous generation, disproved 150 years ago. Therefore, either there is or was at some time, a god, or, the universe always existed. Neither is less likely than the other, however, an atheistic view is what I would call a willfully stolid view. Atheism removes any responsibility (obviously what we would prefer) so it's the conclusion jumped to. It's a view which presupposes intellectualism, but is, at it's core, a primal view, in that it is adhered to for personal gain. There isn't any rationality behind it, yet it claims to be the very embodiment of rationality. A bit heady, I know. Too heady for old Slayer, apparently.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest BobBacklundRules
I will say that I find atheism utterly ludicrous, and that's a shoot. It can be summed up with the simple cliche "God is love" taken to it's natural conclusion, God is the essence of love. God thrives on love, Love is God... and Jesus is the embodiment of God, and therefore, the embodiment of love. Jesus' presence is the manifestation of love, which is why he must have been who he was, as opposed to a prophet. God ("Love") could do no other, by the nature of his being.

 

...but in a nutshell it's God=Love=Jesus.

I swear that's exactly what I would have wrote if I had to explain how I interpret my faith. I've been pushing the 'God is Love' thing for a long while.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest Arnold_OldSchool
IDRM argues solely for the sake of argument

 

He's like Paragon of Virtue, except with 50% more meta

At least he's making a coherent argument

 

 

/not saying your not

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest BobBacklundRules
From what I believe, Jesus is the human form of God, and 1/3 of the trilogy which to me are the three "faces" or forms of one supreme being, aka God.

Trinity...

 

 

 

 

...But trilogy would still work, right?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Now if I may veer completely off topic, I dislike the way trilogy is misused in relation to movies. It's not just a series of three movies, it's one story, interconnected over three. Back to the Future is a trilogy... Scream is not.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest Arnold_OldSchool

Why is God considered Male?

 

 

Would god need a penis or vagina or nipples for that matter since He is what He is and would not need the body parts that we have for feeding and removing waste

 

 

But then again Adam was made in God's template, so I guess that's why God is male, but doesn't quite clear up why God has sex organs

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Why do you have against athesim IDRM?

It's a simple equation. Matter exists. In order for atheism to be correct, matter came from nothing. That's spontaneous generation, disproved 150 years ago. Therefore, either there is or was at some time, a god, or, the universe always existed.

That's totally oversimplified nonsense. A nice attempt at a false dilemma though, but not hard to refute using mathematical physics.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Why did God send Jesus to Earth 2005, years ago?

 

He didn't. 2005 years ago was when Jesus died, or something like that (been a while since I went to Sunday School).

 

EDIT: My one friend who goes to church and stuff says I'm wrong. Oops...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Why do you have against athesim IDRM?

It's a simple equation. Matter exists. In order for atheism to be correct, matter came from nothing. That's spontaneous generation, disproved 150 years ago. Therefore, either there is or was at some time, a god, or, the universe always existed.

That's totally oversimplified nonsense. A nice attempt at a false dilemma though, but not hard to refute using mathematical physics.

Good. This is a simplifieded forum (in the broader sense of the word). As a mathematician I would expect such a response from you. It remains essentially true, however. I've been impressed with you, though I admit it's a bit strange doing this with a fellow called Hogan Made Wrestling (but hey, St. IDrinkRatsMilk isn't much better) But let's do it. Refute. I live for a challenge.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  

×