Guest Arnold_OldSchool Report post Posted March 27, 2005 I know the purpose was to reopen the gates of Heaven because the World was in such peril, but why didn't He just have another Moses like person be given guidence to right the wrongs of the world. I know God promised Noah to never again wipe out the entire world like he did during the great flood, but is it ever biblically explained as to why Jesus was sent down at the point he was? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nighthawk 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2005 Find my thread "The Bible Is Literally True". It's in there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2005 Simple To pick up his dry cleaning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2005 To get to the other side Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cosbywasmurdered Report post Posted March 27, 2005 Practical Joke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2005 He was going out for smokes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Arnold_OldSchool Report post Posted March 27, 2005 Find my thread "The Bible Is Literally True". It's in there. 19 pages...ugh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richard 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2005 because you touch yourself at night Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BobBacklundRules Report post Posted March 27, 2005 From what I believe, Jesus is the human form of God, and 1/3 of the trilogy which to me are the three "faces" or forms of one supreme being, aka God. Since the wages of sin were death, Jesus would have to overcome human death by dying on earth, enduring all the pain and suffering of human death, and three days of suffering after death. By him overcoming death, we would only have to truly believe in God and then we too can overcome death. He also showed us how a true church should be run and how we should live our lives, ie accepting all and loving our neighbors. Which was stuff the church of the time wasn't doing. I think Jesus was sent at the most appropriate time in human history for his message to be heard. Father God could have sent a prophet like Moses, but it would be more appropriate to overcome sin and death by himself alone. And he overcame sin and death for everyone before, after, and during his time on earth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cosbywasmurdered Report post Posted March 27, 2005 From what I believe, Jesus is the human form of God, and 1/3 of the trilogy Was He a New Hope, Empire Strikes Back, or Return of The Jedi? Because I don't really care for ROTJ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nighthawk 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2005 Find my thread "The Bible Is Literally True". It's in there. 19 pages...ugh Well, it is a very deep subject. If it helps the first part was mostly Old Testament, so it's in the second half. In short, Jesus' arrival on Earth is the center of existence. Not chronologically the center, because, as somebody said, "God didn't write any good plays". This touches on the rather unknowable subject of the purpose of God. I prefer to remain somewhat ambiguous about my personal beliefs, but I will say that I find atheism utterly ludicrous, and that's a shoot. It can be summed up with the simple cliche "God is love" taken to it's natural conclusion, God is the essence of love. God thrives on love, Love is God... and Jesus is the embodiment of God, and therefore, the embodiment of love. Jesus' presence is the manifestation of love, which is why he must have been who he was, as opposed to a prophet. God ("Love") could do no other, by the nature of his being. Religion and specifically Christianity is one of my passions, if you can't tell. I could go another 19 pages on this, but in a nutshell it's God=Love=Jesus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cosbywasmurdered Report post Posted March 27, 2005 Why do you have against athesim IDRM? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2005 Anytime IDRM perorates on Christianity, I automatically skip to the next post Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Arnold_OldSchool Report post Posted March 27, 2005 So do all believers feel Jesus was the son of God, or do some believe that he was just a prophet.... or perhaps the miracles were overblown or downright lies made up to build Jesus up as a Messiah? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Arnold_OldSchool Report post Posted March 27, 2005 Why do you have against athesim IDRM? Communists use it as part of their doctorine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ravenbomb 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2005 Find my thread "The Bible Is Literally True". It's in there. 19 pages...ugh Well, it is a very deep subject. If it helps the first part was mostly Old Testament, so it's in the second half. In short, Jesus' arrival on Earth is the center of existence. Not chronologically the center, because, as somebody said, "God didn't write any good plays". This touches on the rather unknowable subject of the purpose of God. I prefer to remain somewhat ambiguous about my personal beliefs, but I will say that I find atheism utterly ludicrous, and that's a shoot. It can be summed up with the simple cliche "God is love" taken to it's natural conclusion, God is the essence of love. God thrives on love, Love is God... and Jesus is the embodiment of God, and therefore, the embodiment of love. Jesus' presence is the manifestation of love, which is why he must have been who he was, as opposed to a prophet. God ("Love") could do no other, by the nature of his being. Religion and specifically Christianity is one of my passions, if you can't tell. I could go another 19 pages on this, but in a nutshell it's God=Love=Jesus. isn't that what Ghostbusters 2 was about? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nighthawk 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2005 Why do you have against athesim IDRM? It's a simple equation. Matter exists. In order for atheism to be correct, matter came from nothing. That's spontaneous generation, disproved 150 years ago. Therefore, either there is or was at some time, a god, or, the universe always existed. Neither is less likely than the other, however, an atheistic view is what I would call a willfully stolid view. Atheism removes any responsibility (obviously what we would prefer) so it's the conclusion jumped to. It's a view which presupposes intellectualism, but is, at it's core, a primal view, in that it is adhered to for personal gain. There isn't any rationality behind it, yet it claims to be the very embodiment of rationality. A bit heady, I know. Too heady for old Slayer, apparently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2005 IDRM argues solely for the sake of argument He's like Paragon of Virtue, except with 50% more meta Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BobBacklundRules Report post Posted March 27, 2005 I will say that I find atheism utterly ludicrous, and that's a shoot. It can be summed up with the simple cliche "God is love" taken to it's natural conclusion, God is the essence of love. God thrives on love, Love is God... and Jesus is the embodiment of God, and therefore, the embodiment of love. Jesus' presence is the manifestation of love, which is why he must have been who he was, as opposed to a prophet. God ("Love") could do no other, by the nature of his being. ...but in a nutshell it's God=Love=Jesus. I swear that's exactly what I would have wrote if I had to explain how I interpret my faith. I've been pushing the 'God is Love' thing for a long while. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Arnold_OldSchool Report post Posted March 27, 2005 IDRM argues solely for the sake of argument He's like Paragon of Virtue, except with 50% more meta At least he's making a coherent argument /not saying your not Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2005 Actually you're right, because I haven't made any argument. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cosbywasmurdered Report post Posted March 27, 2005 arguement's take too much effort. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nighthawk 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2005 As does punctuation, apparently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Arnold_OldSchool Report post Posted March 27, 2005 arguement's take too much effort. *argues your point* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BobBacklundRules Report post Posted March 27, 2005 From what I believe, Jesus is the human form of God, and 1/3 of the trilogy which to me are the three "faces" or forms of one supreme being, aka God. Trinity... ...But trilogy would still work, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nighthawk 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2005 Now if I may veer completely off topic, I dislike the way trilogy is misused in relation to movies. It's not just a series of three movies, it's one story, interconnected over three. Back to the Future is a trilogy... Scream is not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Arnold_OldSchool Report post Posted March 27, 2005 Why is God considered Male? Would god need a penis or vagina or nipples for that matter since He is what He is and would not need the body parts that we have for feeding and removing waste But then again Adam was made in God's template, so I guess that's why God is male, but doesn't quite clear up why God has sex organs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hogan Made Wrestling 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2005 Why do you have against athesim IDRM? It's a simple equation. Matter exists. In order for atheism to be correct, matter came from nothing. That's spontaneous generation, disproved 150 years ago. Therefore, either there is or was at some time, a god, or, the universe always existed. That's totally oversimplified nonsense. A nice attempt at a false dilemma though, but not hard to refute using mathematical physics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2005 Why did God send Jesus to Earth 2005, years ago? He didn't. 2005 years ago was when Jesus died, or something like that (been a while since I went to Sunday School). EDIT: My one friend who goes to church and stuff says I'm wrong. Oops... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nighthawk 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2005 Why do you have against athesim IDRM? It's a simple equation. Matter exists. In order for atheism to be correct, matter came from nothing. That's spontaneous generation, disproved 150 years ago. Therefore, either there is or was at some time, a god, or, the universe always existed. That's totally oversimplified nonsense. A nice attempt at a false dilemma though, but not hard to refute using mathematical physics. Good. This is a simplifieded forum (in the broader sense of the word). As a mathematician I would expect such a response from you. It remains essentially true, however. I've been impressed with you, though I admit it's a bit strange doing this with a fellow called Hogan Made Wrestling (but hey, St. IDrinkRatsMilk isn't much better) But let's do it. Refute. I live for a challenge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites