EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2005 Ok gang. In order to set this up, I need lineups and stuff. Please indicate how you would like to set up your team for the first quarter of the season. I need the following... Starting Lineup (Including Platoons, if applicable) Rotation Bullpen (Indicate Closer, if applicable) Reserves (5 of your 30 players need to be on the reserve list) Also, you can either pick a current manager to model your style after, or pick Earl Weaver since everyone loves his style and I have a book on it. Thank you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treble 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2005 Starting Line-Up Pop Lloyd - SS (LH) Ryne Sandberg - 2B (RH) Oscar Charleston - CF (LH) Johnny Mize - 1B (LH) Jimmy Wynn - LF (RH) Dave Winfield - RF (RH) Roy Campanella - C (RH) Pie Traynor - 3B (RH) Rotation Lefty Grove - LHP Gaylord Perry - RHP Phil Niekro - RHP Don Sutton - RHP Red Faber - RHP Bullpen Tom Henke - RHP (closer) Dave Righetti - LHP Virgil Trucks - RHP (spot starter/long relief) Sam McDowell - LHP Rick Reuschel - RHP Babe Adams - RHP Bench Tony Perez - 1B/3B (RH) Jesse Burkett - OF (LH) Jason Giambi - 1B (LH) Darren Daulton - C (LH) Omar Vizquel - SS (SH) (defensive replacement) George Bell - OF (RH) Reserves Miguel Cabrera - 3B/OF (RH) Roy Halladay - RHP Andres Galarraga - 1B (RH) Tim McCarver - C (LH) Mark Mulder - LHP And just give me Earl Weaver's strategy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2005 I already did the breakdown of my roster in another thread. I don't know what manager to assign but for managing style I want almost no bunting although fairly agressive when it comes to stealing bases. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beast 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2005 Newark Bears Roster Starting Lineup - 1) 2B - Roberto Alomar 2) RF - Paul Waner 3) CF - Willie Mays 4) 1B - Harmon Killabrew 5) C - Yogi Berra 6) LF - Willie Stargell 7) SS - Joe Cronin 8) 3B - Home Run Baker Pitching Rotation SP - Warren Spahn SP - Carl Mays SP - Rube Waddell SP - Luis Tiant SP - Eppa Rixey RP - Sparky Lyle RP - Roy Face RP - Allie Reynolds - Spot Starter/Long Relief RP - Smokey Joe Wood RP - Billy Wagner - Closer Bench - C - Smokey Burgess 1B - Gil Hodges 2B/3B - Junior Gilliam LF/OF - Frank Howard CF/OF - Vada Pinson RF/OF - Tony Oliva RF/OF - Wee Willie Keeler Utility - P - Sam Leever SS - Al Dark 3B - John McGraw P - Clem Labine 2B - Eddie Stanky Weaver's strategy is fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted April 14, 2005 Time to Copy & Paste... Starting Lineup: (Bats/Throws) 1. Barry Larkin (SS) (R-R) 2. Andre Dawson (CF) (R-R) 3. George Brett (3B) (L-R) 4. Don Mattingly (1B) (L-L) 5. Roberto Clemente (RF) (R-R) 6. Darry Strawberry (LF) (L-L) 7. Tony Lazzeri (2B) (R-R) 8. Ernie Lombardi ( C ) (R-R) 9. Pitcher Bench: C - Todd Hundley (S-R) 1B - Mark McGwire (R-R) 2B/3B/SS - Tony Fernandez (S-R) 3B - Edgar Martinez (R-R) OF - Eric Davis (R-R) OF - Bo Jackson (R-R) Starting Rotation: 1. Nolan Ryan (RHP) 2. David Cone (RHP) 3. Ted Higuera (LHP) 4. Doug Drabek (RHP) 5. David Wells (LHP) Bullpen: SP/LR - Steve Avery (LHP) SP/LR - Jim Abbott (LHP) LR - Rollie Fingers (RHP) MR - Steve Howe (LHP) SU - Tom Gordon (RHP) CL - Mariano Rivera (RHP) Reserves: OF - Jose Canseco (R-R) 1B/OF - John Kruk (L-L) 1B - Tino Martinez (L-R) C- Joe Girardi (R-R) C/1B/OF - B.J. Surhoff (L-R) Home Field: Municipal Stadium Manager: Buck Showalter GM: Giant Douche Mascot: Turd Sandwich Broadcast Team: Rocket J. Squirrel & Bullwinkle J. Moose Radio: Boris Badenov & Fearless Leader Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MARTYEWR 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2005 The Ottawa Athletics: Batting Order: LF - Rickey Henderson SS - Arky Vaughn 1B - Frank Thomas 2B - Rogers Hornsby CF - Kirby Puckett RF - Enos Slaughter 3B - Stan Hack C - Bill Dickey Bench/Utility (1st position is most preferable): LF/OF - Ed Delahanty SS - Jim Fregosi C - Mike Scioscia CF/OF - Max Carey 2B/SS - Dick McAuliffe 3B/2B - Heinie Groh RF/OF/1B - Rusty Staub 1B - Mickey Vernon * CF/OF - Roy Thomas * C - Terry Steinbach * Pitching Rotation: SP - Pete Alexander SP - Ferguson Jenkins SP - Dazzy Vance SP - Rube Foster SP - Billy Pierce Bullpen: RP - Lon Warneke RP - Jeff Montgomery RP - Joe Page RP - Eddie Rommel * RP - Larry Jackson * SU - Ellis Kinder CL - John Franco * = Inactive (i.e. not part of the 25-man roster) I'm fine with Earl Weaver as my manager. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2005 Pawtucket Red Sox Starting Lineup 1) 2B Nap Lajoie 2) SS Lou Boudreau 3) RF Larry Walker 4) LF Albert Belle 5) 1B Carlos Delgado 6) 3B Kevin Mitchell 7) CF Turkey Stearnes 8) C Carlton Fisk 9) Pitcher Bench LF Luis Gonzalez 1B Norm Cash SS Johnny Pesky RF Juan Gonzalez 3B Dave Magadan Rotation 1) Randy Johnson 2) Ed Walsh 3) Dwight Gooden 4) Kerry Wood 5) Al Leiter Bullpen Long Reliever: Mitch Williams Middle Reliever: Butch Wynegar Middle Reliever: Jake Weimer Middle Reliever: Jamie Moyer Setup Man: Brad Lidge Setup Man: Dan Quisenberry Closer: Jose Rijo Reserves 2B Davey Lopes MR Dolf Luque CF Deion Sanders RF Jay Buhner 3B John Valentin Field: Fenway Park Strategy: Earl Weaver Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted April 14, 2005 How fun can it be when everyone is using the same strategy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MARTYEWR 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2005 How fun can it be when everyone is using the same strategy? Some of us have better players than others. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jorge Gorgeous 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2005 The Long Island Fightin' Hebrews Starting Lineup C- Ivan "Pudge" Rodriguez - Throws: Right 1B - Stan Musial - Throws: Left 2B - Rod Carew - Throws: Right SS - Miguel Tejada - Throws: Right 3B - Matt Williams - Throws: Right LF - Sammy Sosa - Throws: Right CF - Andruw Jones - Throws: Right RF - Ichiro Suzuki - Throws: Right ----------------------------------------- Backups C - Roger Bresnahan - Throws: Right, Bats: Right 3B - Ron Cey - Throws: Right, Bats: Right OF - Roger Maris - Throws: Right, Bats: Left OF - Shawn Green - Throws: Left, Bats: Left OF - Otis Nixon - Throws: Right, Bats: Switch SS - Buddy Myer - Throws: Right, Bats: Left ----------------------------------------- Reserves1B - Cecil Cooper - Throws: Left, Bats: Left OF/IF - Danny Tartabull - Throws: Right, Bats: Right OF - Hideki Matsui - Throws: Right, Bats: Left MRP/SU - Todd Worrell - RHP, Bats Right IF - Bobby Wallace - Throws: Right, Bats: Right ----------------------------------------- Bullpen SP - Sandy Koufax - LHP SP - Early Winn - RHP, Switch Hitter SP - Ron Guidry - LHP, Bats Left SP - Charles "Old Hoss" Radbourne - RHP, Bats Right SP - Eddie Cicotte - RHP, Switch Hitter SP/RP - Leon Day - RHP, Bats Right SP/RP - Spud Chandler - RHP, Bats Right MRP - Todd Jones - RHP, Bats Left MRP - Bobby Thigpen - RHP, Bats Right MRP/SU - Gary Lavelle - LHP, Switch HItter CP - Keith Foulke - RHP, Bats Right ------------------------------------------ Batting Order 1 - Ichiro Suzuki - Bats:Left 2 - Rod Carew - Bats: Left 3 - Stan Musial - Bats: Left 4 - Sammy Sosa - Bats: Right 5 - Pudge Rodriguez - Bats: Right 6 - Andruw Jones - Bats: Right 7 - Miguel Tejada - Bats: Right 8 - Matt Williams - Bats: Right 9 - Sandy Koufax - Bats: Right ------------------------------------------- Shea Stadium And I'll take that Bobby Cox managerial love Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted April 14, 2005 It's your team jew, but wouldn't it make better sense to mix the lefties and righties up, that way it doesn't lead to a pitching change where a right hander that has great success against lefites and vice-versa? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tom 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2005 The ABERDEEN IRONBIRDS~! Roster (still need one more player): C Elston Howard C Tom Haller 1B Todd Helton 2B Bobby Grich 2B Joe Gordon 2B Bid McPhee SS Cal Ripken SS Bert Campaneris 3B Robin Ventura 3B Sal Bando 3B Harlond Clift OF Lou Brock OF Frank Robinson OF Babe Ruth OF Fred Lynn OF Wally Berger OF Paul Blair OF Jack Clark SP Bucky Walters SP Carl Hubbell SP Mike Mussina SP Bert Blyleven SP Milt Pappas SP Jim Palmer RP Trevor Hoffman RP Ugueth Urbina RP Willie Hernandez RP Steve Bedrosian RP Paul Quantrill P Harry Brecheen Starting lineup: Lou Brock, CF Bobby Grich, 2B Babe Ruth, RF Frank Robinson, LF Todd Helton, 1B Cal Ripken, SS Robin Ventura, 3B Elston Howard, C No DH is the pits, P Rotation: Bert Blyleven Jim Palmer Mike Mussina Carl Hubbell Milt Pappas Long relief/spot starter: Bucky Walters Relievers: Steve Bedrosian, Willie Hernandez, Paul Quantrill, Ugie Urbina, Harry Brecheen Closer: Trevor Hoffman Bench: Tom Haller, C Bid McPhee, 2B Jack Clark, OF/1B Fred Lynn, OF Sal Bando, 3B That's my 25-man roster. w00t~! Reserves: Uh, whoever's left. :-/ Stadium: Oriole Park at Camden Yards Manager: Earl Weaver (I would have chosen him even if he weren't the default, since he, y'know, managed the Orioles and all.) If coaches matter... 3B: Cal Ripken Sr. 1B: Davey Johnson (he manages if Weaver gets ejected (if the sim does ejections)) Bullpen: Elrod Hendricks Bench: Joe Altobelli (becomes 1B coach if Johnson has to manage) Pitching: Ray Miller Hitting: Eddie Murray GM: Pat Gillick I'm not sure how Weaver's strategies carry over to NL rules, but the only person who bunts should be the pitcher. I'd like an aggressive approach on the bases and at the plate. EDIT: Added 25th player, and some coaches, in case they matter.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2005 St. Louis Browns Starting Lineup 1. CF-Earl Averill (L) 2. SS-Ernie Banks ® 3. 3B-Eddie Mathews (L) 4. LF-Hank Aaron ® 5. 1B-Rafael Palmeiro (L) 6. RF-Al Kaline ® 7. C-Mickey Cochrane (L) 8. 2B-Bill Mazeroski ® Bench C-Javy Lopez ® 1B-Steve Garvey ® SS-Luis Aparicio ® 3B-George Kell ® OF-Jim Rice ® OF-Reggie Smith (S) Starting Rotation 1. Cy Young (RHP) 2. Jack Chesbro (RHP) 3. Lefty Gomez (LHP) 4. Mickey Welch (RHP) 5. Mike Cueller (LHP) Bullpen LR-Vic Willis (RHP) MR-Dave Stieb (RHP) MR-Mike Flanagan (LHP) SU-Tippy Martinez (LHP) SU-Hoyt Wilhelm (RHP) CL-Randy Myers (LHP) Reserves 2B-Davey Johnson ® OF-Brady Anderson (L) P-Steve Stone (RHP) P-Scott Mcgregor (LHP) P-Mike Boddicker (RHP) Stadium: Memorial Stadium Manager: Davey Johnson Pitching Coach: Ray Miller Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2005 I already did the breakdown of my roster in another thread. I don't know what manager to assign but for managing style I want almost no bunting although fairly agressive when it comes to stealing bases. It would be immensely helpful if you could post that here, so I don't need to jump through multiple threads to find everything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingPK 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2005 Boston Beaneaters Stadium: Braves Field Manager: Jimy Williams GM: Theo Epstein Radio: Kurt Gowdy and Joe Castiglione TV: Sean McDonough and Jerry Remy Batting order: 1 Carl Yastremski - LF 2 Bobby Murcer - CF 3 Shoeless Joe Jackson - RF 4 Nomar Garciaparra - SS 5 Bob Elliott - 3B 6 Cap Anson - 1B 7 Bobby Doerr - 2B 8 Lance Parrish - C 9 (Pitcher spot) Bench OF Dwight Evans 1B Charlie Grimm SS Phil Rizzuto 3B Carney Lansford 2B Bill Doran C Jason Varitek 3B/OF Bobby Bonilla Rotation: 1 - Roger Clemens 2 - Bob Gibson 3 - Eddie Plank 4 - Chief Bender 5 - Andy Pettitte Bullpen: P - Dennis Eckersley (Closer) P - Tim Wakefield (Long relief) P - Dennis Martinez (middle relief) P - Dick Hall (Set-up man/alternate closer) P - Mel Harder (middle relief) 5 Man IR: 1. Dave Concepcion (2B/3B/SS) 2. Tony Conigliaro (OF) 3. Wally Pipp (1B) 4. Mike Scott (P) 5. Joe Tinker (SS) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2005 Rochester Hop Bitters Manager-Gene Mauch GM-Ed Barrow Stadium-Polo Grounds Mascot-Billy the Marlin Radio-Herb Carneal and Dave Campell TV-Harry Caray and Jimmy Piersall Batting Order CF-James Bell B-L 3B-Paul Molitor R-R LF-Barry Bonds L-L 1B-Harry Heilmann R-R (can also play OF) RF-Mel Ott L-R SS-Alan Trammell R-R C-Ted Simmons B-R 2B-Willie Randolph R-R/ Jose Vidro B-R Starting Pitcher Bench C-Sherm Lollar R-R 1B-Keith Hernandez L-L (defensive replacement) 3B-Eddie Yost R-R OF-Magglio Ordonez R-R Starting Rotation RHP-Pedro Martinez LHP-Whitey Ford RHP-Joe McGinnity LHP-Jim Kaat LHP-Dave McNally Bullpen RHP-Sal Maglie (Long Reliever/Spot Starter) RHP-Mark Prior (Spot Starter/Mop-Up pitcher) RHP-Mike Marshall (RH Setup/Closer RHP-Bruce Sutter (Closer/RH Setup) LHP-Frank Tanana (LH long reliever) LHP-Eddie Guardado (LH setup/closer) Reserves C-Joe Mauer L-R 1B-Kent Hrbek L-R OF-Gavvy Cravath R-R Utility-Bip Robert B-R LHP-John Tudor Managerial style-agressive, not afraid to steal bases, bunting ok..sacrifice bunting for the pitcher, and bunting for hits for Bell, and occasionally Paul Molitor, and whoever the 2nd basemen is, and alot of hit and run ball. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2005 I already did the breakdown of my roster in another thread. I don't know what manager to assign but for managing style I want almost no bunting although fairly agressive when it comes to stealing bases. It would be immensely helpful if you could post that here, so I don't need to jump through multiple threads to find everything. You are as lazy as Bobby Abreu is on defense. Cincinnati Kelly's Killers (Home: Crosley Field) Starting Line-up 1. Billy Hamilton CF 2. Wade Boggs 3B 3. Josh Gibson C 4. Ted Williams LF 5. Albert Pujols 1B 6. Gary Sheffield RF 7. Frankie Frisch 2B 8. Ozzie Smith SS Bench 1B Dan Brouthers (primary pinch hitter vs. righties) CF/LF Pete Browning (primary pinch hitter vs. lefties) RF Jesse Barfield (late inning defensive replacement) 2B/LF/3B/SS/RF Tony Phillips C/1B Gene Tenace 3B Eric Chavez SS Roy Smalley OF Ellis Burks Starting Rotation 1. Tim Keefe 2. Al Spalding 3. Amos Rusie 4. J.R. Richard Bullpen Long Relief: Johan Santana (5th starter when needed, moves in rotation with an injury) LOOGY: John Hiller ROOGY: Rob Dibble Primary Set up: Francisco Rodriguez Closer: Eric Gagne Inactive List SP/RP Wilbur Wood 2B Marcus Giles (start at 2nd if Frisch is on DL) C Jim Sundberg SP Andy Messersmith 1B/LF Boog Powell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2005 My team won't be afraid to mix it up. oh, and the coaching staff 1st Base-Ron Gardenhire 3rd Base-Tom Kelly Guru-Tom "F'N" Emanskie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted April 14, 2005 No Dale Svuem at thirdbase? Or is it Sveum? Oh who cares, he sucks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted April 16, 2005 EDIT* Al, can you give me a rough idea how the simulation treats Dihigo? If you have any questions about abreviations or %'s or anything here let me know.... New York Highlanders Strategy: Semi-agressive on hit & run (think 7 on a scale of 1-10), little to no bunting, individual base running approaches Lineup: 1- 2B Jackie Robinson ® (agressive on bases) 2- SS Derek Jeter ® (agressive) 3- LF Lance Berkman (S) (neutral) 4- CF Joe DiMaggio ® (neutral) 5- 1B Jim Thome (L) (no running) 6- RF Vlad Guerrero ® (semi-agressive) 7- C Joe Torre ® (neutral) 8- 3B Ray Dandridge ® (semi-agressive) Bench (start %'s) (base running): - OF Brian Giles (L) (10% @ CF, 30% @ LF, 15% @RF) (semi-agressive) - 1B/3B/OF Pedro Guerrero ® (20% @ 1B, 20% @ 3B) (neutral) - 1B/2B/SS/3B/OF/C/P Martin Dihigo ® - C Mike Lieberthal ® (35% @ C) (no running) - OF David Justice (L) (25% @ RF) (neutral) - 2B/SS/3B Mark Loretta ® (10% @ 2B, 10% @ SS) (neutral) Rotation (strict order): 1- RHP Addie Joss 2- RHP John Ward 3- LHP Jimmy Key 4- RHP Tim Hudson 5- RHP Orel Hershiser Bullpen: SSP/LR1 - LHP Barry Zito (SS% - 17) LR2/MR1 - RHP Jim Maloney MR2 - LHP Jerry Koosman SR2 - LHP Dan Plesac SR1 - RHP Armando Benitez CL - RHP Lee Smith RESERVE: 1B Cecil Fielder ® OF Juan Pierre ® OF Chet Lemon RHP Mark Fidrych RHP Ramon Martinez Home Field: Yankee Stadium (circa. 1937-1973 ) Manager: Joe Torre Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted April 16, 2005 I'll take Weaver. I'm going to try micromanage for the first quarter of the season and see where it takes me. Might as well. I'll go with two different line-ups. If this is too much of a problem, then I'll probably go with the line-up against lefties. First, against right-handed starting pitching: 1. Tony Gwynn (RF) - L 2. Eddie Collins (2B) - L 3. Lou Gehrig (1B) - L 4. Duke Snyder (CF) - L 5. Charlie Keller (LF) - L 6. George Davis (SS) - S 7. Darrell Porter © - L 8. Graig Nettles (3B) - L Against left-handed: 1. Tony Gwynn (RF) - L 2. Hughie Jennings (SS) - R 3. Eddie Collins (2B) - L 4. Lou Gehrig (1B) - L 5. Duke Snyder (CF) - L 6. Buck Ewing © - R 7. Charlie Keller (LF) - L 8. Ken Boyer (3B) - R Bench: Fred Clarke (LF) - L Kenny Lofton (CF) - L Projected Rotation: Bob Feller (RHP) Tom Glavine (LHP) Jim Bunning (RHP) Vida Blue (LHP) Wes Ferrell (RHP) Bullpen: Stan Coveleski (RHP) Spot Starter Frank Viola (LHP) Spot Starter Ron Perranoski (LHP) Ed Roebuck (RHP) Clay Carroll (RHP) Frank Linzy (RHP) Jesse Orosco (LHP) Closer Reserves: Luke Easter (1B) - L Dusty Baker (RF) - R Elmer Flick (RF) - L Larry Sherry (RHP) Hugh Casey (RHP) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted April 16, 2005 Forgot to include SS-Edgar Renteria to my 25 man roster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted April 16, 2005 Chicago Black Sox Roster Starting Lineup: SS: Joe Sewell CF: Ken Griffey Jr. 1B: Jimmie Foxx RF: Manny Ramirez LF: Hank Greenberg 3B: Scott Rolen 2B: Jeff Kent C: Jorge Posada Starting Rotation: RHP: John Clarkson LHP: Steve Carlton RHP: Juan Marichal RHP: Kevin Brown RHP: Silver King Bench: C: Jason Kendall C: Johnny Roseboro* 1B: Bill Terry 2B: Chuck Knoblauch 2B: Steve Sax SS: Jimmie Rollins* OF: Paul O'Neill* OF: Carlos Beltran OF: Johnny Damon* OF: Willie Davis* OF: Joe Kelley Bullpen: LR: Pud Galvin MR: Jeff Nelson MR: Bill Campbell MR: Mike Henneman MR: Darold Knowles CL: John Wetteland * = Reserve Manager: Earl Weaver Strategy Mascot: Michael Jordan Broadcast Duo: Al Michaels and Pepper Brooks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted April 17, 2005 Mascot: Michael Jordan Are you trying to say that all black people are used as sideshow attractions to get spat on by fans? Racist! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2005 Al do you have the team schedules yet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2005 The schedules are done automatically by the simulation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2005 Any idea what the league alignments are? *wants a feud going with Boston* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jorge Gorgeous 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2005 Divisions... Northern Division Boston Pawtucket Ottawa Rochester Cleveland Mid-Atlantic Division Richmond Aberdeen Cincinnati Washington Baltimore Western Division Las Vegas St. Louis Kansas City Portland Chicago New York Division Stroudsburg New York Long Island Brooklyn Newark Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2005 It's on Ottawa and Cleveland. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted April 18, 2005 Oh sure... pick on my team, the one most likely to finish last. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites