Masked Man of Mystery 0 Report post Posted April 20, 2005 What happened to Marvel villain the Owl and the super hero team Cloak and Dagger? And were C&D supposed to be some kind of uber anti drug team? I saw 'em in Essential Punisher going after druggies Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SpiderFan Report post Posted April 20, 2005 Owl just recently appeared in the first story arc of Marvel Knights Spider-man. Not sure on Cloak & Dagger, the only story I remember with them in it was Maximum Carnage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vyce 0 Report post Posted April 20, 2005 In the past few years The Owl has remained a Daredevil villain, and in fact made a major power play to claim Kingpin's control of the New York underworld once Fisk was overthrown by his underlings in a coup. This included moving in on the drug trade by introducing into the market a new narcotic developed from mutant genes which gave the user temporary mutant powers. Daredevil pretty much put the kibosh on all of those plans (leading up to Daredevil becoming the new Kingpin). Owl is still involved in the NYC underworld, and still manufactures and / or distributes the mutant drug, and was most recently seen, I believe, in the pages of Mark Millar's Marvel Knights Spider-Man title, where it was revealed that he's been employing the Black Cat for various jobs. Cloak and Dagger most recently showed up in the pages of the first Runaways series, where they tried to take down that youthful team under the erroneous assumption that some of the teens were actually murderers and had kidnapped one of their members. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JasonX 0 Report post Posted April 20, 2005 What happened to Marvel villain the Owl and the super hero team Cloak and Dagger? And were C&D supposed to be some kind of uber anti drug team? I saw 'em in Essential Punisher going after druggies Interesting thing about Cloak and Dagger; supposedly the rumor goes that Bill Jemas tried to get them brought back during his tenure running the company but no A-List writer/artist at Marvel was willing to write/draw a C&D book. Also, during the whole "Epic" debacle, "Cloak and Dagger" received the most pitches from would-be Marvel writers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steviekick 0 Report post Posted April 21, 2005 Cloak and Dagger are mutants, and their latent powers were "activated" via being forcefully in jected with some crazy drugs. Part of Dagger's crazy light power allows her to purge drugs/chemicals/poisons out of people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest PlatinumBoy Report post Posted April 21, 2005 What happened to Marvel villain the Owl and the super hero team Cloak and Dagger? And were C&D supposed to be some kind of uber anti drug team? I saw 'em in Essential Punisher going after druggies Interesting thing about Cloak and Dagger; supposedly the rumor goes that Bill Jemas tried to get them brought back during his tenure running the company but no A-List writer/artist at Marvel was willing to write/draw a C&D book. Also, during the whole "Epic" debacle, "Cloak and Dagger" received the most pitches from would-be Marvel writers. The whole Epic thing--is Marvel still accepting submissions? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JasonX 0 Report post Posted April 21, 2005 The whole Epic thing--is Marvel still accepting submissions? The entire "Epic Submission" contest got knifed in the crib within weeks of it being announced by Bill Jemas/Joe Quesada's bosses. The whole thing basically amounted to a huge ass con-job that Jemas did without the approval of his bosses (which is one of the reasons why Jemas is no longer with Marvel) and critics have openly hinted that the whole thing was one huge and nasty scam where Marvel never EVER planned on publishing people's submissions as comics and that all of the submissions were simply used as a non-official survey to see what Marvel secondary characters were popular and could be relaunched via a big named writer/have their movie rights be sold off ala Blade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest PlatinumBoy Report post Posted April 21, 2005 The whole Epic thing--is Marvel still accepting submissions? The entire "Epic Submission" contest got knifed in the crib within weeks of it being announced by Bill Jemas/Joe Quesada's bosses. The whole thing basically amounted to a huge ass con-job that Jemas did without the approval of his bosses (which is one of the reasons why Jemas is no longer with Marvel) and critics have openly hinted that the whole thing was one huge and nasty scam where Marvel never EVER planned on publishing people's submissions as comics and that all of the submissions were simply used as a non-official survey to see what Marvel secondary characters were popular and could be relaunched via a big named writer/have their movie rights be sold off ala Blade. I heard no one got accepted by them. Marvel's website still has the Epic stuff on it I think. That sucks though, thanks for the info. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tawren 0 Report post Posted April 22, 2005 Daredevil pretty much put the kibosh on all of those plans (leading up to Daredevil becoming the new Kingpin). Sorry to go off topic, but I haven't read Daredevil in a long fucking time. Can you go further in depth on this part? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vyce 0 Report post Posted April 22, 2005 Daredevil pretty much put the kibosh on all of those plans (leading up to Daredevil becoming the new Kingpin). Sorry to go off topic, but I haven't read Daredevil in a long fucking time. Can you go further in depth on this part? Whoo.....it's a long story, that sort of begins at the point Bendis begins writing the book, many months ago. Kingpin is dethroned by his underlings. How this comes about is one ambitious upstart, Sammy Silke, finds out who Daredevil is, and that Kingpin (and pretty much all of Kingpin's men) knows who 'devil is but hasn't done anything to really out him even after all of these years. Silke uses the fact that Daredevil is still around kicking their asses (when Fisk could have just killed him years ago) as a rallying cry, turns the Kingpin's men against him, and with the help of Fisk's own son, he leads a coup. The severely injure Fisk (even to the point where he's blinded by the attack) but fail to kill him. A struggle breaks out for control over Fisk's territory, and I mentioned this a bit earlier, what with guys like the Owl trying to take over. During this time, Daredevil goes through a lot of turmoil in his personal live. The worse is when Silke eventually gets busted by the authorities, and he tries to make a deal with the feds by revealing Daredevil's identity to them. The ID eventually gets sold to the tabloids, who run with the story. Though Murdock denies the allegations, pretty much everyone disbelieves him and so now the entire world knows that Murdock and Daredevil are the same person. Through the help of his wife, Vanessa, Fisk makes a comeback, and eventually resumes control of his crime empire - but it's only briefly. He sends Bullseye after Daredevil, but Murdock is pretty much unhinged after all of the shit that's been going on with his life, so he kicks Bullseye's ass pretty handily. And then he goes after Fisk, and in a big fight in front of Fisk's men, he absolutely DESTROYS the Kingpin. He doesn't kill him, but he soundly defeats him, and in a moment of supreme rage, he lets everyone know that HE is the new Kingpin of crime - pretty much letting them know that he's on their ass, and that he isn't going to tolerate their shit any longer. It works, too, because while crime still exists in Hell's Kitchen, things are somewhat safer as the thugs are too afraid of Daredevil to really get their hands too dirty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted April 22, 2005 The whole Epic thing--is Marvel still accepting submissions? The entire "Epic Submission" contest got knifed in the crib within weeks of it being announced by Bill Jemas/Joe Quesada's bosses. The whole thing basically amounted to a huge ass con-job that Jemas did without the approval of his bosses (which is one of the reasons why Jemas is no longer with Marvel) and critics have openly hinted that the whole thing was one huge and nasty scam where Marvel never EVER planned on publishing people's submissions as comics and that all of the submissions were simply used as a non-official survey to see what Marvel secondary characters were popular and could be relaunched via a big named writer/have their movie rights be sold off ala Blade. Was Jemas also behind the "Sentry" scam a few years back? I still haven't forgiven Marvel for that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbondrage99 0 Report post Posted April 23, 2005 Heres another one. Whatever happened to all of those other symboites from Planet of the Symboites. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
