The OaO NFL Draft 2005 Thread

[Slayer 0]

KC drafted a guy named Craphonso Thorpe.

He's no "Sweet Pea" Burns

[Rob E Dangerously 0]

KC drafted a guy named Craphonso Thorpe. That's awesome.

 

Denny Green just has to take McPherson in the 5th. They haven't drafted a QB yet, and Warner/McCown won't cut it.

Craphonso!

 

He'll be the most popular backup reciever in allllllll of KC

[Angel_Grace_Blue 0]

Cool for Michael Boley to get picked. Go USM, sorta.

 

I would have thought Junior Rosegreen might have been taken by now.

 

Also: Holy crap! Larry Brackins from PRCC? Kid must be good. Yay Pearl River, I guess.

[lomasmoney 0]

Ok, why in the hell is Earnest Shazor still on the board. I thought he was a sure fire high safety prospect and a definite first round pick

[Angel_Grace_Blue 0]

Heh. Goo Wallace.

 

This draft has had some good nicknames.

[Vern Gagne 0]

That position does Shazor play? He's 6-4 226.

[Damaramu 0]

Wow there's Sooners going left and right in this draft. Makes me even more worried about the team next season.

It sucks liking your college so much b/c you want to root for your guys but you hate the team they go to. So maybe you want to be like "Yeah Mark Clayton. Catch a bunch of TDs but the rest of the team suck!"

[yankovic fan 0]

And New England drafts Matt Leinhart's back up.

 

NFL.com didn't even have him listed (or the QB from Tulsa taken before him) and now they just have their names listed w/o a hyper link to a profile.

[2GOLD 0]

And New England drafts Matt Leinhart's back up.

 

NFL.com didn't even have him listed (or the QB from Tulsa taken before him) and now they just have their names listed w/o a hyper link to a profile.

 

They drafted big Dan from UCONN earlier.

Better than using a draft pick on that waste of time Chris "PRESSURE! ARRRRGHH!" Rix.

 

So it looks like those two will be battling with Rohan Davey for that second and third spot.

[2GOLD 0]

Indy drafted a kicker. If he is any good, Vandy better prepare his resume.

 

Oh and so far, I gotta give the nod to best draft to Dallas. Parcells wanted defense, he got defense AND he grabbed ALL of my steals of the draft with Marion Barber III, Chris Canty and Kevin Burnett.

 

Just amazing job done by Parcells and the Cowboys.

[Youth N Asia 0]

Done and over. And Jason White, the 2003 Heismen didn't get picked.

[Damaramu 0]

Done and over. And Jason White, the 2003 Heismen didn't get picked.

I don't understand the knock on his knees. They were reconstructed. His doctor said they were stronger than they were before the surgery. He competed an entire season without getting hurt(when some NFL GM's thought he couldn't make an entire season without getting injured).

And he never would've won the Heisman had he not torn his ACL's. Because before he was a running QB. He basically reinvented himself into a pocket QB.

Oh well hopefully he'll get picked up as a free agent. The dude is good and just needs a shot.

Or maybe he'll come back as a grad assistant at OU. I think the team would love to still have him around and I know he could help out.

[2GOLD 0]

Lots of teams didn't like his knees or his age although I didn't understand the knock on his age since he was only 25 or so. Plus teams aren't looking for pocket passers anymore, if you can't move then they don't want you and White didn't show much mobility when USC tried to make him eat his helmet.

 

White was making Drew Bledsoe look speedy and elusive in some of the games this season. Teams don't want a guy who cannot move and some even credited most of his success to the ground game and Clayton.

 

He'll get signed as a free agent since most guys do but I doubt he makes it past first cut.

[Damaramu 0]

Lots of teams didn't like his knees or his age although I didn't understand the knock on his age since he was only 25 or so. Plus teams aren't looking for pocket passers anymore, if you can't move then they don't want you and White didn't show much mobility when USC tried to make him eat his helmet.

 

White was making Drew Bledsoe look speedy and elusive in some of the games this season. Teams don't want a guy who cannot move and some even credited most of his success to the ground game and Clayton.

 

He'll get signed as a free agent since most guys do but I doubt he makes it past first cut.

I dunno. The dude is deadly accurate. He can throw a 70 yard pass right on the dot when he wants. I think he can make a good back up. He's not completely immobile. He's about as mobile as Manning. He was told a lot by OU's coaching staff not to scramble b/c they were afraid that he would hurt his knees again. Which was bullshit. He used to be an option QB so he knows how to scramble. He can't physically do it as fast but I think he can escape the sack and get the pass off if he really needs to.

Maybe he can pull a Steve Young and ride the bench behind someone good and make a decent career. I just want the dude to start at least once in the NFL. He deserves it.

[Damaramu 0]

Plus teams aren't looking for pocket passers anymore, if you can't move then they don't want you and White didn't show much mobility when USC tried to make him eat his helmet.

The whole team didn't look good against USC.

Adrian Peterson looked like a loser but people still think he's awesome and Mark Clayton couldn't catch shit and they still think he's awesome. You can't go off that game b/c they were all dominated.

 

Oh well I'm just happy that 10 Sooners were drafted. I think that Mark Clayton and Brodney Poole will be the stars from this group though.

Mark Bradley will be solid as well and so will most of the others. I don't know about being superstars. But I mean I think those two will be.

[Damaramu 0]

Also I guess I don't really mind him not going to the NFL. I mean I would like him to have a shot. But I mean he's meant a lot to this team and to the fans. I know he's not going to make it in the NFL unless he just like turned into a freak. It's just a sentimental thing. I hope he comes back and coaches though if he doesn't.

[2GOLD 0]

Coaches and scouts don't mind so much if you take a sack if your entire pocket collapses and you have nowhere to go. It's that throw the ball into the air thing he did that is frowned upon. Gives you that "folds under pressure" opinion that is a death nail in the coffin of any rookie quarterback.

 

Chris Rix for example. Great arm, great speed, accurate...until big game situations where he just comes unglued. It's those "he comes unglued" games that make or break a rookie.

 

You can throw three picks in a game, you'll be frowned upon but if they were just great interceptions or receivers running the wrong route then it doesn't hurt you as much. But if you get a full blitz and you just fling the ball into the air, say bye bye to NFL draft stock.

 

Michael Vick is the only one ever to get away with it cause he was too much of a pure athlete to pass up. Very good raw talent with Vick. With White, it's a "what you see is what you get" player. He might become an anaylst for ESPN, head to the Arena league, or make a squad as an undrafted free agent rookie signee.

[Damaramu 0]

Well he does have deadly deep ball accuracy.

Hell the dude did come unglued in the national title games. But the other games which were big games(i'm talking about A&M and OSU here) against hostile crowds he was on fire.

I think he can improve enough. But yeah I mean I'd love to see him get his due as a football player somewhere. I mean that's what he is and he's damn good at it and he meant so much to this school. I don't want him to end up pouring concrete for his dads company. I don't know if I could bear seeing Jason White pouring my new porch.

[the pinjockey 0]

Note from a John Clayton article about Travis Henry

 

"Henry, however, was the one trade that should have happened and didn't. In late February, the Cardinals were ready to make an L.J. Shelton-for-Henry trade. It was a $3 million left tackle for a running back. The Bills wanted more, asking the Cardinals to swap their better position in the second round. Donahoe held firm and thought he would get a trade when the Eagles showed interest. Then came the Bucs.

 

The best offer was a fourth-rounder from the Eagles. The Bills held to the third. On Friday, the Cardinals didn't return Buffalo's phone calls. Donahoe didn't budge on his demand for more. Like a greedy gambler, Donahoe didn't know how to fold 'em and watched the Bucs, Cardinals and Eagles draft first-day running backs.

 

Now, he's stuck with Henry, who will probably hold out. Donahoe liked Shelton to a certain degree but Bills coaches didn't. In the end, the Bills didn't get value and have a distraction in Henry, and they might lose him and get nothing in return after the 2005 season, when his contract is up."

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

Two safeties I thought would be gone: Junior Rosegreen, and Ernest Shazor, who as mentioned earlier has got to be the most surprising non-pick. NC State's T.A. McClendon is up there too, though his history of injuries really set him back.

 

I imagine all of them, along with the likes of White and some other "big names," will make it in the free agent spot. Myself, I'm thrilled to see Andrew Hoffman and Pat Estes go from UVA, because I honestly didn't expect them to go. Nice guys both. So with 7 guys taken, Al Groh's proven that he can train attractive pro prospects...now let's try to, y'know, lose less than 4 games a year.

[the pinjockey 0]

Browner, the CB from Oregon State, is the guy I am shocked to see go undrafted. To be a 6' 4" CB and go undrafted he must have killed someone's dog or something. To not even take a 7th round flyer on him seems odd.

[Guest Vitamin X]

My old high school teammate made it to the Redskins under Gibbs, so I'm real happy to see him make it. He'll probably play more as a running back than fullback, but he was used very poorly in college from what I remember (dude was also athletic enough to be getting courted by our hometown Lakers as a guard, although he'd be a rather heavy one at 6'2" 245).

 

Green Bay had a much better second day draft than the first day... however with the way it went, it seems like they should have been much more aggressive in free agency, who the hell's going to replace Hannibal Navies? Paris Lenon? That new rookie (and only LB they drafted) Brady Poppinga or Kurt Campbell? It just seems like the whole draft was centered around prospects and sleeper picks rather than guys who could make an impact. That's kind of a slap in the face to Favre in a way, basically saying we can't win with the group of guys we have now, so we'll just re-up for the future and you go ahead and teach this hotshot rookie a few tricks before he takes over for you. The WR pick makes more sense now as it gives them 4 solid WRs, and Driver is getting on in years... Ferguson also isn't a sure thing for the future with the near-paralysis he suffered last season, and his contract is expiring soon as well. He'll be used mostly as a KR, I'd imagine, which he was very good at, and something the Pack hasn't had since Allen Rossum. I like 6 or 7 out of their 11 picks (didn't like the Craig Bragg, Poppinga, Whitter, and Collins pick at the time because there were much better players available at that time).

[Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0]

Hahaha, I had the Steelers taking Browner in the first round!

[nogoodnick 0]

Browner, the CB from Oregon State, is the guy I am shocked to see go undrafted. To be a 6' 4" CB and go undrafted he must have killed someone's dog or something. To not even take a 7th round flyer on him seems odd.

I really don't understand this. Browner's a tall, athletic CB. At one point he was a first round prospect. Im really surprised no one picked him up. A 6-4 corner is pretty rare. I bet he wishes he stayed in school.

[yankovic fan 0]

Also I guess I don't really mind him not going to the NFL. I mean I would like him to have a shot. But I mean he's meant a lot to this team and to the fans. I know he's not going to make it in the NFL unless he just like turned into a freak. It's just a sentimental thing. I hope he comes back and coaches though if he doesn't.

Jake Delhomme...

 

Just keep thinking about Jake Delhomme and how he did.

 

 

There is hope for your boy.

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

The Browns got a steal with Charlie Frye.

[Damaramu 0]

Also I guess I don't really mind him not going to the NFL. I mean I would like him to have a shot. But I mean he's meant a lot to this team and to the fans. I know he's not going to make it in the NFL unless he just like turned into a freak. It's just a sentimental thing. I hope he comes back and coaches though if he doesn't.

Jake Delhomme...

 

Just keep thinking about Jake Delhomme and how he did.

 

 

There is hope for your boy.

Yes there is hope. But I mean.......I don't think anyone will even give him a chance.

I still say he'll do great if he gets a chance.

Then again a lot of GM's and Coaches think that he was only good b/c of the system and Mark Clayton.

[Red Baron 0]

Seahawks take undrafted Lumsden

 

TSN.ca Staff

 

4/24/2005

 

The Seattle Seahawks have agreed to terms on a free-agent contract with McMaster Marauders running back Jesse Lumsden, TSN has learned.

 

The Seahawks had expressed interest in Lumsden going into the draft and was the only team to invite him for a visit.

 

He will attend the team's mini-camp in Seattle on Apr. 29.

 

Lumsden has made a career of steamrolling through opponents, setting the CIS single season rushing record with 1,816 yards, the CIS single-season touchdown record (21) and the CIS career touchdown record (43). He also broke the OUA career rushing record with 4,328 yards.

 

The son of former CFLer Neil Lumsden was nearly unstoppable last year, and his performance paid off handsomely when he won the 2004 Hec Crighton award as Canadian university football's top player.

 

Lumsden's season ended in disappointment when a left knee injury forced him to sit out the Yates Cup final against Laurier. Without Lumsden, McMaster's ball-control offence failed to click and the Marauders lost 31-19, ending a run of four straight Ontario titles.

 

Neil Lumsden said his son received multiple contract offers following the draft, and signed a free-agent contract. However, the senior Lumsden wouldn't identify the team.

 

"It's a good situation for Jesse," he said earlier Sunday. "When you look at the team he signed with and examine the situation, it's an awful lot like he was drafted by them.

 

"From a football perspective, it's fabulous."

 

The Seahawks have three other Canadians in the system - running back Kerry Carter, wide receiver Jerome Pathon and long snapper J.P Darche.

 

Pretty sure that most of you don't care about Canadian University Football, but I'm glad that someone actually showed interest in him.

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

Actually, the Bears taking Benson didn't make that much sense either.

Yeah, Thomas Jones was a 1400 yard total yardage back, and Anthony Thomas is still a solid backup. They should have traded down for multiple picks, because a quarterback doesn't even make sense for them with Grossman looking to be a solid pro

They could have used some beefing up of that awful, AWFUL offensive line.

Or hey, how about MIKE WILLIAMS? Still, they're a running team still trying to put an offense together. I can't complain too much, but would have rather seen them go WR.

[Damaramu 0]

Actually, the Bears taking Benson didn't make that much sense either.

Yeah, Thomas Jones was a 1400 yard total yardage back, and Anthony Thomas is still a solid backup. They should have traded down for multiple picks, because a quarterback doesn't even make sense for them with Grossman looking to be a solid pro

They could have used some beefing up of that awful, AWFUL offensive line.

Or hey, how about MIKE WILLIAMS? Still, they're a running team still trying to put an offense together. I can't complain too much, but would have rather seen them go WR.

Hey they have Mark Bradley now. Dude is fast as hell.

 

This is another thing I don't understand about White. I'm hearing now that if he had come out after his Heisman season he would've been drafted in the 6th or 7th round. What I don't get is that he had an absolutely horrible game against LSU. The offense let OU down majorly in that game.

Yes he made some bad decisions against USC but overall his game was decent. The defense is what let OU down. And he had a better campaign ovrall than he did the Heisman year. So why did it all change this year? It's mind boggling.