Non-Bias Attack: A gang of up to 30 black teens

[Justice 0]

I am not saying whites are even more racist.  I am saying that whites are more likely to act out on their racism than blacks which might be more of a product of the racist blacks also calling the justice system racist and think the book will be thrown at them if they act.  Whites just act out violently, and destructively their racist views than blacks.

Uh, looking purely statistically, you're wrong. There are way more than twice as many whites in the US than blacks, so technically a higher number of the black population commit. When you are saying stuff like this, percentages do matter. Especially when you are talking behavior within a certain population.

 

Plus, the actual numbers are:

 

Anti-white crimes: 2,032

Anti-black crimes:  3,099

 

A lot closer than ya think.

^^^

 

Uh, Ripper?

[Modern Man's Hustle 0]

"Uh...the facts prove otherwise...but....we have to listen to the black guy, right? He knows, right?"

[lomasmoney 0]

are those crimes committed by blacks against whites and vice versa in regards to those statistics

[Guest MikeSC]

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hatecm.htm

 

I couldnt find anything after the 95 stats, mostly because I am a lazy fuck and don't feel like looking. But there are twice as many reported anti black crime as their are anti white crimes.

 

Mike will argue interracial crime overall, because somehow robbing and hitting someone of a different race is the same thing as beating someone while yelling racial insults.

 

We were discussing hate crime and whites committ more HATE CRIMES.

No, I'm ignoring it because of how fucking idiotic hate crime reporting is.

 

Check out the raw numbers from the Justice Dept NCVS.

-=Mike

[Ripper 0]

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hatecm.htm

 

I couldnt find anything after the 95 stats, mostly because I am a lazy fuck and don't feel like looking.  But there are twice as many reported anti black crime as their are anti white crimes. 

 

Mike will argue interracial crime overall, because somehow robbing and hitting someone of a different race is the same thing as beating someone while yelling racial insults. 

 

We were discussing hate crime and whites committ more HATE CRIMES.

And the winner is.....Ripper

Well, that's fucking bullshit. Nobody is going to report a black man committing a "hate" crime, because that black man will just turn around and say that he's being prosecuted by the white man. And Ripper will agree with him, call the white man a racist, and then come to the aid of the entire African-American race whenever they are clearly in the wrong, just because they're black and white people were involved. Reverse racism doesn't count as actual racism, I suppose.

Shut the fuck up you retarded bitch. The day I do something like that, give me a call, but until then, shut up. here we go AGAIN taking the "people just don't report crimes on black people" bullshit. EVERY white on black crime is not called a hate crime and every black on white crime is not called a hate crime. When the basis for the attack, or the crime is clearly related to race, sexual orientation, etc.

 

(Justice @ Apr 25 2005, 04:42 PM)

Uh, looking purely statistically, you're wrong. There are way more than twice as many whites in the US than blacks, so technically a higher number of the black population commit. When you are saying stuff like this, percentages do matter. Especially when you are talking behavior within a certain population.

 

Plus, the actual numbers are:

Anti-white crimes: 2,032

Anti-black crimes:  3,099

 

A lot closer than ya think. 

 

First, lets remember that I don't post at nights, so I'm not ducking a response, I am just not here.

 

Anti-White offenses - 1,511

Anti-White victims - 1,554

 

Anti-Black offenses - 3,805

Anti-Black victims - 3945

 

So while the offenders aren't that far off, the offenses and victims are quite disportionate.

 

And as I said earlier in the thread, the opportunity for crimes dictated by race lessen alot due to the fact that there is a smaller chance of it happening outside of the thickly black populated areas(the South, South East, North East West coast). In the places where hate crime is reported, the white to black population is no where near as disportionate as the 79-7 percentage nationwide.

[Guest MikeSC]

And, Ripper, those STILL rely on the insanely shaky hate crime classification.

 

For example, let's say a Hispanic man attacks a black man. That would be constituted as a white-on-black crime, since Hispanics aren't listed as a perp group. Lets say a white man attacks a Hispanic man. That's white-on-Hispanic crime, since Hispanics are listed as a victim group.

 

And, again, there are numerous times when blacks assaulting whites is not referred to as a hate crime when it is.

-=Mike

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

"You take things too seriously"

 

- Me to you, in some other thread. Seriously though, I would like to think that you mean very little of that, it would be a shame to invest so much into something that a stranger passively says about you.

 

Just to say, I don't really interact with Agent or Inc on the board, let alone suck the internet cock. The only people I really interact with on a regular basis are the MMA junkies, and IDRM if he starts talking about religion or something else that he seemingly knows a lot about.

Still on for squash?

[Ripper 0]

And, again, there are numerous times when blacks assaulting whites is not referred to as a hate crime when it is.

-=Mike

In a perfect(or scary) world, things would be so because you said they are, but that ain't exactly the case. You are just spouting off that there are times that blacks attack whites and it would be a hate crime, but not listing these times because you are going off an assumption. And while we are at it, there are times that whites attack blacks that should be listed as a hate crime and it isn't. It holds just as much validity when I say it the other way as when you say it your way.

 

I mean seriously, you can still hang your hat on the fact that interracial crime points to blacks commit more crimes against whites than whites do to blacks, but you and I both know that racially motivated crimes happen more from the whites to blacks and always has.

 

And Hispanics are not counted as whites. They are counted as "other" or "multi-racial" as "Hispanic" covers quite a few races there.

[Justice 0]

First, lets remember that I don't post at nights, so I'm not ducking a response, I am just not here.

 

Anti-White offenses - 1,511

Anti-White victims - 1,554

 

Anti-Black offenses - 3,805

Anti-Black victims - 3945

 

So while the offenders aren't that far off, the offenses and victims are quite disportionate.

 

And as I said earlier in the thread, the opportunity for crimes dictated by race lessen alot due to the fact that there is a smaller chance of it happening outside of the thickly black populated areas(the South, South East, North East West coast). In the places where hate crime is reported, the white to black population is no where near as disportionate as the 79-7 percentage nationwide.

I'd argue you are assuming too much. There are neighborhoods where there aren't any white kids. Of course these areas are smaller in number, but so are African Americans in general. It all evens out.

 

So unless you have any actual proof, I'd say you land pretty far off base with that assumption.

[Ripper 0]

First, lets remember that I don't post at nights, so I'm not ducking a response, I am just not here. 

 

Anti-White offenses - 1,511

Anti-White victims - 1,554

 

Anti-Black offenses - 3,805

Anti-Black victims - 3945

 

So while the offenders aren't that far off, the offenses and victims are quite disportionate.

 

And as I said earlier in the thread, the opportunity for crimes dictated by race lessen alot due to the fact that there is a smaller chance of it happening outside of the thickly black populated areas(the South, South East, North East West coast).  In the places where hate crime is reported, the white to black population is no where near as disportionate as the 79-7 percentage nationwide.

I'd argue you are assuming too much. There are neighborhoods where there aren't any white kids. Of course these areas are smaller in number, but so are African Americans in general. It all evens out.

 

So unless you have any actual proof, I'd say you land pretty far off base with that assumption.

The hate crimes reported are listed by state on the same page. Compare that with census of where the blacks in this country are and there you go.