Should Flair

[TheFranchise 0]

Anyone like my idea?

I like it.

 

I especially like the limo and ladies bit, it would certainly bring back the memories.

[Mearl267 0]

I love the current role that Flair is in. It's so fitting for an old man/ex great in my opinion. Just being a lacky to whomever the current WWE champ is, because really, he has ties to anyone. But to put the belt on him? No way. He will be the same Ric Flair with or without it. It wouldn't be like Bradshaw getting the title, because now we all percieve him as a maineventer (and rightfully so). he would still be the same old 17 time Nature boy, Whooo, Ric Flair.

 

Flair IS still the man, however.

[Lord of The Curry 0]

I seriously can't believe that this thread is still alive, much less that people are trying to come up with logical explanations for one of the most useless wrestlers on the roster to get a world title run.

[4hartthreat 0]

I seriously can't believe that this thread is still alive, much less that people are trying to come up with logical explanations for one of the most useless wrestlers on the roster to get a world title run.

I think you meant one of the most over wrestlers on the roster. Honest mistake, just try harder in the future.

[Mearl267 0]

Flair easily gets a top 5 pop every Raw.

[Lord of The Curry 0]

I never disputed his overness.

 

And you never refuted his worthlessness.

[4hartthreat 0]

I never disputed his overness.

 

And you never refuted his worthlessness.

Anyone who is over can not be worthless. That's just a stupid thing to say. I couldn't stand the Ultimate Warrior or Goldberg or Nash and so on, but to call them worthless when they were clearly over and able to make their companies money would just be a retarded case to try and make.

[Lord of The Curry 0]

Yeah, see, you're wrong.

 

Flair is pretty damn worthless. People make a big stink about how jobbing to him helps putting somebody over, how as a manager he helps 'make' somebody. I'm not seeing it. Orton and Batista got over on their own, regardless of what people will say about Flair getting credit for it.

[Slickster 0]

Orton and Batista got over on their own, regardless of what people will say about Flair getting credit for it.

In all honesty, I can say I've never heard anyone say that Orton or Batista got over in part because of Flair.

 

However, I'm not seeing where someone who is very over (like Flair) is useless, his age notwithstanding. Don't forget that about two years ago they ran this angle and the crowd ate it up.

 

I think my idea works well because it gives people what they want to see (classic Flair as world champ) without affecting house show gates (90% of his reign would be on the Far East Tour, which is already almost sold out IIRC) and without affecting PPV buyrates (because it would be for 1 week a full two months before the next PPV). In addition, it provides a diversion from the HHH-Batista angle while providing a segue into a SummerSlam match (HHH-Flair). Lastly, it serves as a last hurrah for the in-ring career of arguably the greatest pro wrestler of all time.

[4hartthreat 0]

Yeah, see, you're wrong.

 

Flair is pretty damn worthless. People make a big stink about how jobbing to him helps putting somebody over, how as a manager he helps 'make' somebody. I'm not seeing it. Orton and Batista got over on their own, regardless of what people will say about Flair getting credit for it.

Well, see, you're wrong.

 

I can't remember the last time someone claimed Flair jobbing to anyone put them over. So nice of you to make that up. Also, I have NEVER seen anyone claim that Batista or Orton got over because of Flair, so we'll just add that to your list of made up claims.

 

So what I will point out is that Ric Flair's dvd set released just last year was the wwe's # 1 selling dvd of all-time, though I believe ecw may have passed it now, but even if that's true # 2 ain't so bad. I will also poin out that the fans go crazy for Flair every time they see him on camera or walk out to the ring, and also react rabidly to EVERY little thing he does while out there managing someone. So if you want to say who is making the company more money, old man Flair has a hell of a lot more worth than Chris Benoit. So I guess we should throw him out with the trash too...

 

Saying you don't like Flair and want him gone is one thing, but to call him worthless is just plain retarded and shows how ignorant you are.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Flair is only worth a pop of the crowd, and if that's the basis for a title push, then JR should be wearing gold too. I question his overness (cept in the south) as well, since I think its more of a respect pop he gets elsewhere than genuine enthusiasm. Plus, people like to "whooo!". Flair is awful in the ring, his promo work hasn't meant a single damn thing for the longest time, which means he doesn't do anything for anyone. And the biggest knock against him is it doesn't matter if he wins or loses - which is what wrestling, and being a champion, is all about. How many more "final runs" can a guy have? The guy should have retired over 10 years ago, he's done everything he could have done, there's nothing left for him to do, cut the cord, put him to bed, pull the plug, send him out to pasture, turn him to glue.

 

WM XX was the highest selling DVD, IIRC, until TRAFOECW.

[Lord of The Curry 0]

I just don't know why people would want one of the worst (if not the worst) in-ring worker they have currently holding the world title.

[Guest JMA]

I just don't know why people would want one of the worst (if not the worst) in-ring worker they have currently holding the world title.

Nostalgia.

[Lord of The Curry 0]

So Hogan as champ wasn't enough to discourage the idea of a nostalgic title run?

[Guest JMA]

So Hogan as champ wasn't enough to discourage the idea of a nostalgic title run?

Apparently not. I'm not a big fan of nostalgia title reigns myself (they never end well).

[Lord of The Curry 0]

Does Flair even have a legit finisher? The figure-four doesn't count as it's been reversed on him (and he's lost to it) too may times to count.

[Slickster 0]

So Hogan as champ wasn't enough to discourage the idea of a nostalgic title run?

Apparently not. I'm not a big fan of nostalgia title reigns myself (they never end well).

Read my idea and see how it gets around that problem.

[Guest JMA]

So Hogan as champ wasn't enough to discourage the idea of a nostalgic title run?

Apparently not. I'm not a big fan of nostalgia title reigns myself (they never end well).

Read my idea and see how it gets around that problem.

I've read your idea and I still think that putting the title on Flair would be a huge mistake. For one thing, Batista losing the title to Flair (even with Triple H getting pinned) would seriously hurt his credibility. Besides the fact that Batista would look terrible after losing the belt to Flair, it would also be a mistake to take the title off him so soon. Honestly, if Batista and Flair ever had a match, Flair should get little to no offense in and be beaten in about five minutes.

 

Finally, the entire audience wouldn't take Flair seriously as champion. They would all know that he's on a nostalgia run, and the novelty would fade fast.

[Guest Redhawk]

To me, Flair is just like Hogan at this point. He's doing the same exact match he was doing 20 years ago. Same spots, same moves, same setups for the same spots and moves, same finishes, same everything. Shawn Michaels, to his credit, at least looks like he's trying to do some things that he wasn't doing in 1985; from being in a Elimination Chamber match to little things like the way he and Shelton Benjamin crafted that superkick a few weeks back. Until Flair does something different, don't put the title on him.

[The Niggardly King 0]

Does Flair even have a legit finisher? The figure-four doesn't count as it's been reversed on him (and he's lost to it) too may times to count.

Well there is the Low Blow and Small Package, or the Low Blow and School Boy.

[cabbageboy 0]

Michaels is a veteran though, not a totally washed up old man. He's about 40 right? Flair is more like 55.

 

And no, they shouldn't put the title on Flair. I don't see any point in it, unless they wanted to have him beat HHH at some point and then be a harmless transition champ to the big new main event guy they are molding.

 

Hell, I dunno about HHH getting the belt back. Sure it'll happen but what is the point other than to feed HHH's ego? There's still no one for him to feud with once he wrecks Batista's career. They'd basically almost have to trade some guys from SMDN to Raw (Cena, Eddie, whoever). Right now the face side on Raw is just horrid, no one with the possible exception of Shelton is gearing up for the main event.

[Shooting Star 0]

I'd rather have him challenge the title one last time and lost and then retire and get a custom belt.