After last night, can we finally end the myth

[UZI Suicide 0]

The true test will come with Cena. I have a feeling Triple H did all this with Batista so he can get to beat Cena at Summerslam.

[Guest Brian]

My gut instinct is that he wanted to leave his mark with one of two viable candidates, either Batista or Orton, similar to how he feels the Clique did with him. Orton lost, Batista won.

[zyn081 0]

Batista is no threat to HHH's top spot, so he has no problems putting him over.  Especially if Batista gets shipped off to SD, since there will be no reminder for the fans that HHH lost to the guy 3 straight times.

 

I'm holding off on the "big ups, Trips!" until seeing how Cena is handled.

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IMHO Batistas SD bound, especially since TBS was traded to SD. Now theres an empty spot for the 'SD Title' in the 6 Pack Challange. Teddy can merge it into 1 with the WHC, by giving Batista TBS spot. IMHO Batista was always SD bound since Correy pointed out so brilliantly that Batista fed Batista, or the booking of him did and not HHH totally per se.

 

Booker T is another feud that sickened me, since HHH did all this racist crap to Booker and never had to pay for it, never lost the title to him, etc.  Just jobbing to him at WM or ONCE would have made this less pathetic.

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HHH did job to Booker twice that year. Once before Mania and at least another time after, both in tag matches. Booker pinned him cleanly IIRC.

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O yeah, and that was really a memorable victory wasnt it. Come on, as if people would remember or prefer that over a WM win.

 

As HTQ has pointed out many times, putting someone over requires the loser to lose his spot to the guy he put over. HHH isn't going to do such thing. All he is doing is shuffling Batista off to SD so he doesn't have to lose his spot. This is IF Batista does go over to SD. It's still entirely possible that Batista stays on Raw and starts losing to HHH.

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I think this is were a major misconception lies in wrestling. What HTQ and Porter are talking about IMHO is when a guy that is pushed flops or a passing of the torch scenario. I think its more notable when a guy elavates somebody to his level and takes a back seat, but that does not mean that he has lost his spot. You cant really blame a wrestler for being afraid that this will result in him losing his spot though, since he will see it as being depushed or falling out of favour. HHH's ego is massaged so much that he cant stand it not being so. So this means that he will have to share the spotlight with somebody else.

 

Undertaker.

 

He drops back to the mid-card all the time.

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UT squashes somebody and takes a couple of months off lately. I think you have to go back to his Cena feud on Vengence of 0X to actually back that argument up. I stand to be corrected though cause UT has just been blah for me recently.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

Because you REALLY wanted Orton and Eugene in the main event?

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Not particularly, but that doesn't change the fact that Triple H buried them at a time the company needs new stars.

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Perhaps it wasn't HHH burying people, Jericho-style, but the company decided that these weren't the right "stars" they needed?

 

Anyway, my complaint with the Batista-HHH feud is that HHH starts off taking control in every one of these matches.

 

You want to know how they should have booked WrestleMania? Batista just annihilates HHH and flings him around like a rag doll. Crowd sees HHH get the shit beaten out of him and treated like a total jobber. HHH cheats to turn the match around and gets 5 minutes of offense, loses the advantage, jobs.

 

Goddamn, you could have even done that to start off Vengeance's HIAC match and it would have made sense. But no, HHH started the offense in the HIAC again. Why is this? After two prior big matches, Dave should know not to let Trips take the opening

[zyn081 0]

Because you REALLY wanted Orton and Eugene in the main event?

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Not particularly, but that doesn't change the fact that Triple H buried them at a time the company needs new stars.

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Perhaps it wasn't HHH burying people, Jericho-style, but the company decided that these weren't the right "stars" they needed?

 

Anyway, my complaint with the Batista-HHH feud is that HHH starts off taking control in every one of these matches.

 

You want to know how they should have booked WrestleMania? Batista just annihilates HHH and flings him around like a rag doll. Crowd sees HHH get the shit beaten out of him and treated like a total jobber. HHH cheats to turn the match around and gets 5 minutes of offense, loses the advantage, jobs.

 

Goddamn, you could have even done that to start off Vengeance's HIAC match and it would have made sense. But no, HHH started the offense in the HIAC again. Why is this? After two prior big matches, Dave should know not to let Trips take the opening

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I agree, Batista should have squashed HHH. And Batista should have kept his style and not changed it after the contract signing.

 

Even if they made a mistake with the "star", you just dont drop them. You try to make something out of it.

[jester 0]

I agree, Batista should have squashed HHH. And Batista should have kept his style and not changed it after the contract signing.

 

Even if they made a mistake with the "star", you just dont drop them. You try to make something out of it.

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Seconded.

 

It also should not have been HHH that demanded the HIAC match, but Batista himself. This would make a face look particularly ballsy--he insists on fighting "HHH's match" to show he can beat him on his terms.