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Yeah, them. I put them in there based on the fact that they can "phase" out when things get too rough but I didn't take into account how badly they jobbed to Morpheus in Reloaded.

Guest Mosaicv2
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I can't stand geek debates, so damn annoying.

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On one side; you have a fully trained Jedi Knight. Proficient with a lightsaber, entrenched in the light side of the force. In times of great duress, fear is never an option for him. He doesn't like violence, but WILL defend himself if the need arises.

 

On the other; standard United Federation Of Planets crewman, trained in phaser handling and advanced hand to hand combat. He's fully armed with handheld and rifle phasers and is willing to die for the cause of the Federation. So it's very simple.

 

They fight. Who wins?

A Klingon would kill the Jedi with ease.

Guest Vitamin X
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On one side; you have a fully trained Jedi Knight. Proficient with a lightsaber, entrenched in the light side of the force. In times of great duress, fear is never an option for him. He doesn't like violence, but WILL defend himself if the need arises.

 

On the other; standard United Federation Of Planets crewman, trained in phaser handling and advanced hand to hand combat. He's fully armed with handheld and rifle phasers and is willing to die for the cause of the Federation. So it's very simple.

 

They fight. Who wins?

A Klingon would kill the Jedi with ease.

 

Pffft. Klingons are all aggression and power, whereas Jedi/Sith (I count them in here too, as Star Wars basically says that they're two different peas of the same pod, so to speak) are resourceful, intelligent, skilled acrobats/fencers, AND they have the Force.

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According to legend, Kortar, the first Klingon, along with his mate, destroyed the gods who created them and turned the heavens into ashes. This event is recounted in marriage ceremonies.

 

Klingons value honor above all else. Those who die honorably are said to join the spirit of Kahless (the first Klingon emperor, who has become a messianic figure in Klingon religion) in Sto-Vo-Kor. The honored dead are not mourned, but celebrated, and the body is viewed as an empty shell to be disposed of. Dishonorable deaths hold the destiny of the underworld of Gre'Thor, guarded by Fek'lhr. Gre'thor is reached by passage on the Barge of the Dead, eternally piloted by Kortar, over the River of Blood.

 

There are parallels between Klingon beliefs and Norse Mythology; such as the belief that the afterlife will be a warrior's paradise with daily battles, and nightly feasting, drinking and revelry.

Lt. Worf laughs at the concept of "the force".

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klingon

Guest Vitamin X
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According to legend, Kortar, the first Klingon, along with his mate, destroyed the gods who created them and turned the heavens into ashes. This event is recounted in marriage ceremonies.

 

Klingons value honor above all else. Those who die honorably are said to join the spirit of Kahless (the first Klingon emperor, who has become a messianic figure in Klingon religion) in Sto-Vo-Kor. The honored dead are not mourned, but celebrated, and the body is viewed as an empty shell to be disposed of. Dishonorable deaths hold the destiny of the underworld of Gre'Thor, guarded by Fek'lhr. Gre'thor is reached by passage on the Barge of the Dead, eternally piloted by Kortar, over the River of Blood.

 

There are parallels between Klingon beliefs and Norse Mythology; such as the belief that the afterlife will be a warrior's paradise with daily battles, and nightly feasting, drinking and revelry.

Lt. Worf laughs at the concept of "the force".

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klingon

 

Well then, not only are you referencing a legend, but you're also dealing with conflict of ideologies here. If Klingon beliefs parallel Norse Mythology, as I detailed in the Star Wars thread, the whole concept of the Force also parallels Taoism, in that the Tao/Force is and affects everything around us, and that there's a light side and dark side, all that.

 

So, Lt. Worf can laugh all he wants, but just remember Episode IV when someone did something similar...

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"I find your lack of faith.... disturbing.."

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If a Starfleet ship got sucked through a wormhole and ended up in the Jedi galaxy, then the Jedi would win. If the Jedi travelled through hyperspace to the Federation's Galaxy, the Starfleet guys would win. The fact that Obi-Wan described the Force as surrounding the galaxy might indicate that it only surrounds the Jedi galaxy, and thus would be useless outside of the Jedi galaxy.

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