Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted July 19, 2005 I still stand by the fact that up until this past Saturday, Taylor's competition was weak considering his hype and ranking. By his 23rd fight, DLH had fought Ruelas, Chavez, Leija, Molina & Paez, to name a few. Within 20 fights, Vargas fought Campas, Quartey, Marquez, etc. Did Taylor do better than I expected? Yes. But at the same time, his win has as much to do with Nard's inactivity as anything Taylor did. In the end, Taylor squeeked out a decision against a smaller, aged champion who left him bruised, battered & concussed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson Platypus 0 Report post Posted July 19, 2005 In the rematch Hopkins by K.O in the 8th. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted July 19, 2005 I still stand by the fact that up until this past Saturday, Taylor's competition was weak considering his hype and ranking. By his 23rd fight, DLH had fought Ruelas, Chavez, Leija, Molina & Paez, to name a few. Within 20 fights, Vargas fought Campas, Quartey, Marquez, etc. Did Taylor do better than I expected? Yes. But at the same time, his win has as much to do with Nard's inactivity as anything Taylor did. In the end, Taylor squeeked out a decision against a smaller, aged champion who left him bruised, battered & concussed. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Come on...Jorge Paez and JCC were no less shopworn than Marquez, Eastman, and Joppy. I honestly believe that Rafael Ruelas was somewhat effected by the state of mind of his brother that night. Vargas and David Reid were in the same boat as Taylor. Both were brought along nicely by their promoters/managers against an array of veterans, different styles, and contenders. The difference is that Vargas/Reid met a prime Felix Trinidad at the top, Taylor got to face an older rustier Hopkins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted July 19, 2005 In the rematch Hopkins by K.O in the 8th. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> How can you possibly think that after Saturday night? What did Hopkins show you to make you think he can come back to ko Taylor? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted July 19, 2005 I still stand by the fact that up until this past Saturday, Taylor's competition was weak considering his hype and ranking. By his 23rd fight, DLH had fought Ruelas, Chavez, Leija, Molina & Paez, to name a few. Within 20 fights, Vargas fought Campas, Quartey, Marquez, etc. Did Taylor do better than I expected? Yes. But at the same time, his win has as much to do with Nard's inactivity as anything Taylor did. In the end, Taylor squeeked out a decision against a smaller, aged champion who left him bruised, battered & concussed. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Come on...Jorge Paez and JCC were no less shopworn than Marquez, Eastman, and Joppy. I honestly believe that Rafael Ruelas was somewhat effected by the state of mind of his brother that night. Vargas and David Reid were in the same boat as Taylor. Both were brought along nicely by their promoters/managers against an array of veterans, different styles, and contenders. The difference is that Vargas/Reid met a prime Felix Trinidad at the top, Taylor got to face an older rustier Hopkins. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Eastman? Where'd he come from? Paez I'll give you (though he still stacks up to much of Taylor's weak resume himself), but though as shopworn and disadvantaged in size as much of Taylor's opposition, JCC was a greater fighter than any on Taylor's resume, and DLH stopped him in 4. Also, the difference between Vargas'/Reid's & Taylor's list of opponents is one of quality, as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson Platypus 0 Report post Posted July 19, 2005 In the rematch Hopkins by K.O in the 8th. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> How can you possibly think that after Saturday night? What did Hopkins show you to make you think he can come back to ko Taylor? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Because Hopkins fought his fight and was robbed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted July 19, 2005 Eastman didnt belong on my list. Oops. Platypus - Jerry Roth somehow gave Hopkins 3 of the first 4 rounds. Do you really agree with that? There was no robbery... and the Executioner couldnt ko a guy who was badly winded, cut, hurt, in his deepest waters of his young career, and possibly concussed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites