Al's New Favorite Site

[MrRant 0]

http://firejoemorgan.blogspot.com/

 

 

Enjoy Al.

[cabbageboy 0]

I loved the trashing of Bayless on there. His rants about "It's not the Hall of Very Good, it's the HALL OF FAME!" are really hilarious. If you take a look at it, there are actually quite a few guys in the Hall that are just "very good" if you go by Bayless' definition.

 

I guess the main knock against Palmeiro is that he really hasn't ever done anything of much note. He really is just a "very good" player, but what Bayless doesn't realize is that you can be a "very good" player and put up 500 homers and make the HOF. All it takes is hitting 35 or so homers for 15 seasons to get over 500. I don't think anyone would say that a guy who does that is much more than a very good player, but those pretty good years add up to quite the career when all is said and done.

[Styles 0]

I guess the main knock against Palmeiro is that he really hasn't ever done anything of much note. 

 

If you consider the only other players in history to hit 3,000 hits and 500 homeruns are Hank Aaron, Willie Mays and Eddie Murray, then yeah I guess he's done nothing of note.

Raffy doesn't get the respect he deserves because he's not a media darling. He's a quiet , all business guy who goes out and does his job every day like he's done for years. He doesn't wear flashy jewlery, he doesn't give the media juicy quotes and he doesn't demand a star treatment. Doesn't mean he doesn't deserve it. Palmeiro has had an amazing career, and has been underrated by his lack of flash, not playing on many winning teams (not his fault) and playing in an era of juiced up monsters who trumpted his stats in the short term, although none had the consistency or longevity of Palmeiro. He's a first ballot HOF and I hope it's wearing an O's hat.

[KingPK 0]

A site completely devoted to making fun of Joe Morgan, Joe Buck, Tim McCarver and Skip Bayless....

 

*Bookmarks*

[Bored 0]

Skip Bayless was that kid in school who at recess would eat worms to get attention.

[cabbageboy 0]

By not doing much of note, I mean that Palmeiro really hasn't ever had that huge postseason run or anything real defining about him to say "Yeah that guy is a great HOF player." I mean Eddie Murray is a fairly boring, nothing happening guy too but at least I can say he hit home runs from both sides of the plate in one game. Maybe the O's will make the playoffs this year, then he'll get a decent shot.

 

This isn't to say Palmeiro isn't a Hall of Famer. 3000 hits and 500 homers is automatic...what I think Bayless is whining about is that he simply isn't a truly GREAT player, but just a journeyman who was consistent and wasn't really dominant at his position. I think Eddie Murray had similar trouble, he wasn't a dominant player so there's some cognitive dissonance involved in putting him in the realm of Aaron and Mays.

 

It's funny how perception works. Sandberg is going into the Hall this year. I don't think he has 3000 hits and might not have reached 300 homers. But the thing is he SEEMS like a better player than either Palmeiro or Murray. Perhaps that's because he was the dominant 2nd baseman of the era, and at least won the MVP in 84.

 

Was Palmeiro on those Rangers teams in the 90s that mostly got swept by the Yankees in the playoffs?

[the max 0]

What's the beef between Joe Morgan and Ryne Sandberg?

[Steve J. Rogers 0]

What's the beef between Joe Morgan and Ryne Sandberg?

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Morgan seems like a "My era was better" kind of guy probably, and could be that Sandberg supplanted him rather quickly as "Possible Best NL 2Bman Next To Rogers Hornsby Of All Time"

 

Steve

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

Morgan's criticisms of Sandberg are quite silly, but Morgan was easily a better second baseman than Sandberg.

[Bored 0]

To show what a classy guy Joe is he'll be skipping this year's HOF ceremony for the first time ever. He says he has a family commitment but seems rather convenient that he's doing this the year Sandberg is inducted.

[cabbageboy 0]

Just wondering but what is Morgan's problem with Sandberg? Just wondering but what is Morgan's career fielding % compared to Ryno, gold gloves, etc?

 

If I had to choose one I'd probably take Sandberg, but I'm biased. He was my favorite player. Besides, he had to carry the Cubs for years while Morgan was on a loaded Big Red Machine with Rose, Bench, Griffey, Foster.

[iggymcfly 0]

I don't even hate Joe Morgan, and I still think that this is one of the funniest sites I've ever seen. I found my new sig there, and it made me laugh for a solid minute.

[iggymcfly 0]

God, this site is terrific, I can't stop reading through the archives. Here's another gem from a month or so ago:

 

Jeff (Arlington, TX): Mr. Morgan, Any comment on Kenny Rogers playing in Tuesday's midsummer classic?

 

Joe Morgan: Yes, I think baseball is basically saying that since in appealed, he is eligible to play. But, I think that when you give a punnishment, you have to make sure you hear the appeal right away. I don't see how he can play if you are punnishing him for something he did on the field, but I do understand that you are able to play until the appeal is heard. I've seen instances where the appeal was heard the next day or two if it was that important. I think this IS that important to the fans and the media. It should have been heard by now.

 

>> I'll be honest. I didn't read Joe's answer very carefully because I got bored and I don't care about his opinion on Kenny Rogers. But since I've already copied and pasted it in here, I might as well point out that in the last chat, he spelled "punishment" with two N's. There was some speculation that he might have done so just because the questioner spelled it that way and Joe was simply following his lead. I think his response in this new chat lends credence to the theory that Joe in fact has believed for some time that there are two N's in "punishment," "punishing" and presumably, "punish." Another possiblity is that he "learned" this incorrect spelling and had his memory of the correct spelling erased by the last chat.

 

And finally, the last two sentences of his answer:

 

They have airplanes to get him to NY or people to Texas or however you want to do it. This could have and should have already happened.

 

>> Well, thank God they have airplanes. A good excuse for delaying this whole Kenny Rogers thing would be if it happened in 1903 and people had to take steam-powered trains everywhere.

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

It is entirely possible Joe does not type his own responses to his chats. In addition, what kind of grammar nazi criticizes responses from a CHAT? I'm all for bashing a person when he's say something idiotic, but that's just unnecessary.

 

Just wondering but what is Morgan's problem with Sandberg? Just wondering but what is Morgan's career fielding % compared to Ryno, gold gloves, etc?

 

If I had to choose one I'd probably take Sandberg, but I'm biased. He was my favorite player. Besides, he had to carry the Cubs for years while Morgan was on a loaded Big Red Machine with Rose, Bench, Griffey, Foster.

 

It's not even close. The difference between Morgan and Sandberg? The man who despises Moneyball had 1,100 more walks. The difference itself would rate 63rd all time. Morgan had a higher OPS and hit in less favorable conditions than did Sandberg. Morgan stole 300 more bases, at a higher percentage. Morgan compiled an OPS+ of 132 compared to 114 for Sandberg.

 

Sandberg had a higher fielding percentage, .989 to .981. The league average rose four points in Sandberg's time. Sandberg had slightly better range factors as well. However, Sandberg would need to have saved 250 more runs with his glove to be as good as Morgan.

[iggymcfly 0]

I told you, I don't even hate Joe Morgan. I just think it's hilarious the way that they're all total dicks to him. There's more damning stuff elsewhere on the site; that one just struck me funny for some reason.