Campaign 2008

[Brett Favre 0]

Oh come on. If I came out here and started posting pictures of lynched black guys saying that this is what needs to be done in order to preserve white America, I'd be called out on it too. And you're like 3/4 of the way there.

[SuperJerk 0]

...y'know what's funny? The first night I started posting here again, due in part to a direct request by one of your admins, there were multiple requests for my immediate banning. Because, supposedly, I was being rude. Because I was misrepresenting other people's arguments. Because I was picking fights. Because my mere presence was a detriment to the TSM CE folder.

 

Take a look back over the threads in which I've posted. Can you really say that I've been the aggressor in every one?

 

Even if you don't agree with my general outlook?

 

Your answer to that question would probably say more about you than it would about me.

Damn liberals...always playing the victim...

 

And that's why we consider you to be one of the stupid people, C.M. You certainly share their values.

Nah. You're lying.

 

We've had more than a dozen debates, on two boards, in which you engaged my ideas and responded to them in kind, and either you or I conceded one ground or another until, eventually, the discussion wound down.

 

There's no need for you to pretend that you think I'm "stupid." You've demonstrated in the past that you know better than that. You can see in the present that the polls indicate that I'm not wrong. And you know as well as I do that in the future the polling will bear me out.

After all these years, I finally find an insult that was off limits.

 

Yeah, maybe I should have said "crazy."

[Firestarter 0]

This ain't Democratic Underground

Right now it pretty much is.

 

but it ain't Free Republic either honey

FR's been pussified sort of recently so I wouldn't really count that as a positive in the first place, even if it were.

 

 

 

And FYI: I'm not your "honey."

[Gary Floyd 0]

Marney and Jerk: The feud I never asked for.

 

[Firestarter 0]

After all these years, I finally find an insult that was off limits.

 

Yeah, maybe I should have said "crazy."

Again, I don't believe you. If you thought I was stupid or crazy, you wouldn't have spent all that time arguing with me over multiple pages. You could have just started calling me names then. But you didn't. You either tried to refute me, or you rebutted my attempts to refute you, and we had a (mostly) civilized conversation in most of the threads in which we interacted.

 

Now why would you have done that if you had always held such a low opinion of me?

[Firestarter 0]

Oh come on. If I came out here and started posting pictures of lynched black guys saying that this is what needs to be done in order to preserve white America, I'd be called out on it too. And you're like 3/4 of the way there.

You're not even trying to make sense anymore. Reformulate your point.

[Brett Favre 0]

With some of your opinions, you deserve to be called names.

[Firestarter 0]

Marney and Jerk: The feud I never asked for.

No one really gives a damn what you want. Fade away.

[Firestarter 0]

With some of your opinions, you deserve to be called names.

Then identify them, define the "names," and state why.

[SuperJerk 0]

After all these years, I finally find an insult that was off limits.

 

Yeah, maybe I should have said "crazy."

Again, I don't believe you. If you thought I was stupid or crazy, you wouldn't have spent all that time arguing with me over multiple pages. You could have just started calling me names then. But you didn't. You either tried to refute me, or you rebutted my attempts to refute you, and we had a (mostly) civilized conversation in most of the threads in which we interacted.

 

Now why would you have done that if you had always held such a low opinion of me?

Don't dish it out if you can't take it.

[Firestarter 0]

Don't dish it out if you can't take it.

I can "take it" just fine. But you haven't answered the pertinent question: why are you attempting to "dish it out," when, in numerous preceding cases, you did not?

[Gary Floyd 0]

Marney and Jerk: The feud I never asked for.

No one really gives a damn what you want. Fade away.

Come on Marney:

 

"All I ever wanted

All I ever Needed

Is Here in my arms

Words are Very Unnecessary

They can only do harm"

 

[PUT THAT DICK IN MY MOUTH! 0]

At least once B.O. Hussein's elected and institutes some bastard form of Sharia Law I'll (probably) be able to wear a keffiyeh without looking like a total faggot douchebag. That's something I can get behind.

[Firestarter 0]

Come on

I'm not interested in you, child. Keep your mouth shut while your betters speak.

[Brett Favre 0]

I'm in italics!

With some of your opinions, you deserve to be called names.

Then identify them, define the "names," and state why.

 

(Brooklyn Zoo @ Apr 3 2008, 10:10 PM) *

What the hell does being a Muslim have to do with anything anyway?

 

MARNEY: Well, for one thing, we're at war with them.

 

Uhh, I hope you don't think this is why we're at war with them.

 

MARNEY: OBAMA'S DIMESTORE 'MEIN KAMPF'

by Ann Coulter

 

Hell no.

 

 

(SuperJerk @ Apr 3 2008, 10:37 PM) *

What would YOU do with all the Muslims, Marney?

 

MARNEY: Depends. Can I use nukes, or am I limited to napalm and other conventional weapons?

 

Mmmhmm.

 

MARNEY: Entirely irrelevant. He's not barred from running, but there's nothing in the Constitution which forbids a citizen to take into account his religious views, or an opinion of them, in order to determine whether to vote for him or not. I never suggested that he be prevented from running for office. I only said that decent Americans should take his ancestry his lack of patriotism, and the question of his religion (whether it's a peculiarly anti-American Christianity, atheism, or noncommittal Mohammedanism, or something else altogether) into account.

 

Constitution: Irrelevant. Obama's religion 20 years ago: I MUST KNOW..why? Because..he might be Muslim? And why is that relevant?

 

MARNEY: Well, for one thing, we're at war with them.

 

And if you were in charge, what would you do with them?

 

MARNEY: Depends. Can I use nukes, or am I limited to napalm and other conventional weapons?

 

And by names I mean dumbass, stupid, idiot. Opinions can be stupid, idiotic..dumbass-iotic? Whatever.

[Firestarter 0]

I'm in italics!

Also, entirely irrelevant. Try again. With something which isn't self-referential.

[Brett Favre 0]

You think we're at war with Muslims, or at least should be at war with Muslims, because, I don't know. But you also feel that you can't vote without knowing exactly how many wives one of the candidates father had and what was his (the Candidate's [not the father, because that would be silly]) religion 20 years ago. You feel he's unworthy because he may have some deep seeded prejudice against people who bullied and owned his people.

 

So how does this not sound stupid? Or tell me in a different way so it doesn't sound stupid.

[Gary Floyd 0]

Wow, Hitler comparisons! Way to show 'em!

 

Seriously, I don't care that you're Conservative or Liberal. When you make comparisons to (or choose sources that make comparisons to) Hitler or anything Nazi related, you lose whatever argument you're making. End of fucking story.

 

The Current Events Folder: It's a lot like that book Hitler wrote.

[Guest Vitamin X]

(by the racist sonofabitch Wright, of all people)

Sit and spin.

 

Whether I'm a racist or not has no bearing whatsoever on whether Jeremiah Wright is a racist. And by any objective standard, he is. The truth is the truth.

You're correct; it has no bearing on whether Jeremiah Wright is a racist or not. However, it does have a bearing in the validity of your using the term racist in a derogatory manner against the Rev. Wright.

 

Anyways, in other news, in a measure of how strong the Clinton campaign is going here in Oregon, Hillary is coming to both Eugene and a suburb of Portland (a farming community named Hillsboro) this upcoming weekend, and holding both of her events in high school auditoriums. Contrast that with Obama's entirely sold out Memorial Coliseum, which was announced only 72 hours in advance, and that people were actually scalping tickets for a free event successfully outside the arena. Highly amusing.

[Firestarter 0]

You think we're at war with Muslims, or at least should be at war with Muslims, because, I don't know.

Well, for starters, they killed 3000 of my brothers and sisters on 9/11.

 

But you also feel that you can't vote without knowing exactly how many wives one of the candidates father had

Didn't say that I couldn't vote without that knowledge. But it IS a FACT that B.O. Hussein's father was a polygamist and that B.O. Hussein himself is a bastard. It IS a FACT that B.O. Hussein's father took him to mosques on more than one occasion and that he registered him as a Mohammedan at a Catholic school. There's simply no dispute on these points.

 

I'm not saying that any of the points cited requires all Americans to vote against B.O. Hussein. I'm just saying that it's not unreasonable to consider them.

 

Along with his real-estate friend's dealings. Along with his pastor's sermons. Along with his wife's anti-American comments. Along with his deliberately ostentatious refusal to wear a flag lapel pin.

 

and what was his (the Candidate's [not the father, because that would be silly]) religion 20 years ago. You feel he's unworthy because he may have some deep seeded prejudice against people who bullied and owned his people.

Hello. His father was a Kenyan. He has no slave ancestry that I know of. I have more of a slave ancestry than B.O. Hussein.

[Firestarter 0]

Whether I'm a racist or not has no bearing whatsoever on whether Jeremiah Wright is a racist. And by any objective standard, he is. The truth is the truth.

You're correct; it has no bearing on whether Jeremiah Wright is a racist or not. However, it does have a bearing in the validity of your using the term racist in a derogatory manner against the Rev. Wright.

Your attempt at creating a distinguishing point is ridiculous:

 

il messaggero non è importante

 

Either Wright is a racist or he isn't. Whether I am or not is not the issue. I haven't counseled any candidate for 20 years.

[PUT THAT DICK IN MY MOUTH! 0]

Along with his deliberately ostentatious refusal to wear a flag lapel pin.

 

Anybody who srsly takes something like this into consideration when voting for President is pretty much a complete retard.

[Guest Vitamin X]

Whether I'm a racist or not has no bearing whatsoever on whether Jeremiah Wright is a racist. And by any objective standard, he is. The truth is the truth.

You're correct; it has no bearing on whether Jeremiah Wright is a racist or not. However, it does have a bearing in the validity of your using the term racist in a derogatory manner against the Rev. Wright.

Your attempt at creating a distinguishing point is ridiculous:

 

il messaggero non è importante

 

Either Wright is a racist or he isn't. Whether I am or not is not the issue. I haven't counseled any candidate for 20 years.

 

You're missing the point. You said "that racist son of a bitch". What I was saying was that regardless of whether Wright is a racist or not (and, as you pointed out, from any objective viewpoint, he is) you reserve no right to bring it up as an assault or objection to his character considering you've shown considerable racism on your part as well.

 

I have no interest in being badgered into quarreling politics with you as you've proved that you're willing to argue with anyone who shares an opposing viewpoint, as tenaciously as your male counterpart over at the Pit, and your linguistic prowess makes you seem more adept at discussing politics than you really are. However, it would serve you well to be reminded of when you're being a hypocrite, in which this is obviously the case, and there's no way to disprove that.

[CheesalaIsGood 0]

...y'know what's funny? The first night I started posting here again, due in part to a direct request by one of your admins, there were multiple requests for my immediate banning. Because, supposedly, I was being rude. Because I was misrepresenting other people's arguments. Because I was picking fights. Because my mere presence was a detriment to the TSM CE folder.

 

Take a look back over the threads in which I've posted. Can you really say that I've been the aggressor in every one?

 

Even if you don't agree with my general outlook?

 

Your answer to that question would probably say more about you than it would about me.

I still think you are awesome.

[Firestarter 0]

You're missing the point. You said "that racist son of a bitch". What I was saying was that regardless of whether Wright is a racist or not (and, as you pointed out, from any objective viewpoint, he is) you reserve no right to bring it up as an assault or objection to his character considering you've shown considerable racism on your part as well.

No.

 

Once more, YOU are missing the point. Whether or not Wright is a racist is the point at issue. I can freely bring it up regardless of anything I have said in the past and it has ZERO bearing on the facts, because the ONLY facts which are relevant are Wright's sermons, lectures, and expressed opinions. MY opinions about any race have nothing to do with Wright.

 

I have no interest in being badgered into quarreling politics with you as you've proved that you're willing to argue with anyone who shares an opposing viewpoint, as tenaciously as your male counterpart over at the Pit, and your linguistic prowess makes you seem more adept at discussing politics than you really are.

Even granting that, your lack thereof makes you seem even less adept at discussing politics than you are.

 

You consider this an advantage why, precisely?

 

However, it would serve you well to be reminded of when you're being a hypocrite, in which this is obviously the case, and there's no way to disprove that.

You are being an idiot. Speer, Fritszche, and von Schirach condemned fellow Nazis for their anti-Semitic policies - were their points invalid because they'd served under Hitler?

[Gary Floyd 0]

You are aware Marney, that a lot the rips on you here have more to do with your general attitude than your political leanings, right?

[Firestarter 0]

You are aware Marney, that a lot the rips on you here have more to do with your general attitude than your political leanings, right?

I really don't give a flying fuck. Deal with the substance, or don't bother to post.

[Jorge Gorgeous 0]

Hey!

 

I'm not interested in you, child. Keep your mouth shut while your betters speak.

 

You said this.

 

You called someone a "child" and referred to youself as their "better" on an internet forum. You're a fucking caricature! I can hardly conceive of you existing outside of the internet. You communicate in a slobbering blend of bad vampire novel character and Rush Limbaugh. You seemingly exist in a September 12th, 2001 version of the movie Groundhog's Day. Watching your failed intelectual flailings is like watching a chihuahua bark at a passing dog. Your entire existence on this forum is traced from talking point to quackery to talking point like a retarded constellation. You make a mockery of real issues by constantly bringing up things like lapel pins and middle names. You're polarizing in the worst way, and, just so you don't forget -

 

I'm not interested in you, child. Keep your mouth shut while your betters speak.

 

- you posted this and then thought to yourself "take that."

 

I hate you.

[Firestarter 0]

I hate you.

While I can't really be bothered to give a damn about you.

[Guest]

If you want to go to battle, just take it to the chocolate socket and you can have it out.

 

Not here.

 

That post snuck in, so I posted that after the page long rant. No more.