Campaign 2008

[EricMM 0]

Arguably, a black person in America can never be racist, because any negative feelings they have towards whites is a reaction, not racism.

Well that's not true.

[Atticus Chaos 0]

Arguably, a black person in America can never be racist, because any negative feelings they have towards whites is a reaction, not racism.

Well that's not true.

 

 

A lot of blacks with negativity towards whites are usually reacting out of their own expereinces. The fact is, blacks have been victimised by whites, not vice versa.

 

Say a black man is driving through Kentucky, and gets nervous anytime he sees a white man or a group of white men. Is that rasicm? Or a natural reaction?

 

 

[EricMM 0]

Racism is not based on why, it is what it is.

[Atticus Chaos 0]

Racism is not based on why, it is what it is.

There's a difference in racism from the oppressive majority and racism from the oppressed minority is what I'm saying.

 

 

It's not okay for a black person who grew up being called names, being threatened..etc to hold it against every white person they meet..but you can understand how they got to that point. It was a reaction to how they were treated.

 

However, a white person who has never been oppressed in any way, is likely just being racist for the sake of it. They have no good reason to be that way. That's not a reaction to anything.

[EricMM 0]

As a person who grew up in a prodominantly black neighborhood, I can assure you that racism based upon previous racism is no better for the victim of said "justified" racism.

 

Do not doubt that I completely understand the reactionary sentiment of the previous and even current black generations in this country. But me being treated differently just because I'm white still isn't okay. Two wrongs, whatever the reason, do not make a Wright right.

[Atticus Chaos 0]

As a person who grew up in a prodominantly black neighborhood, I can assure you that racism based upon previous racism is no better for the victim of said "justified" racism.

 

Do not doubt that I completely understand the reactionary sentiment of the previous and even current black generations in this country. But me being treated differently just because I'm white still isn't okay. Two wrongs, whatever the reason, do not make a Wright right.

 

 

I understand. And I'm not saying that no black person can ever be racist. But in any society where there is an oppressed minority it's debatable whether their negative reaction to the majority is racism or a reaction. It's not okay, but it does mean you have to cut guys like wright some slack. If anyone here had lived through what he had, you might be angry too.

[spiny norman 0]

Say a black man is driving through Kentucky, and gets nervous anytime he sees a white man or a group of white men. Is that rasicm? Or a natural reaction?

 

I've been reading this thread quite a bit, but not posting much, and your last few posts have been the stupidest thing in here since Marvin stopped posting.

 

The crime rate amongst blacks is worse than that amongst whites. Therefore, surely it's justifiable for a white man to distrust a black man or a group of black men, for they're more likely to mug/murder them? Isn't that just a natural reaction?

[Atticus Chaos 0]

Say a black man is driving through Kentucky, and gets nervous anytime he sees a white man or a group of white men. Is that rasicm? Or a natural reaction?

 

I've been reading this thread quite a bit, but not posting much, and your last few posts have been the stupidest thing in here since Marvin stopped posting.

 

 

Yes, saying it's understandable for the oppressed to be angry at their oppressors...that's so out there.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[At Home 0]

Racism is, by definition, categorizing people as races (stupid idea in the first place). So, yes, black people can be racist. Anyone can be racist. Everyone is a racist. If you have feelings towards people based upon their "race," that's being prejudice, but prejudice and racism are best friends. Race doesn't exist. Race is only in our minds.

[The Niggardly King 0]

Shit, I know a black person didn't put that much thought into that. You must be white.

[NoCalMike 0]

I think everyone is prejudice to a certain extent. When you are walking down the street and see someone coming towards you, you probably will judge them based on their appearance and race might be one of the factors. That is just a fact of life. The difference is when you can't get beyond the prejudging stage.

[Dobbs 3K 0]

Frankly, why this is being discussed ad nauseum is beyond me. It really shouldn't be relevant.

[At Home 0]

I think everyone is prejudice to a certain extent. When you are walking down the street and see someone coming towards you, you probably will judge them based on their appearance and race might be one of the factors. That is just a fact of life. The difference is when you can't get beyond the prejudging stage.

 

Right, and that's because racism has been so ingrained into our social fabric. If we saw people as they truly are and took down the stupid classifications of race, then I'm sure we would see an elimination of prejudice as well (what would there be to judge?).

[snuffbox 0]

You probably didn't think it was relevent to replay Howard Dean's "YAAAAAH!!!" 25 trillion times until he was completely run out of the race either. These are the things that really matter to Americans. They don't care about the war they're fighting, or the economy they're suffering through, or the heavy taxes they have to pay, they only care about one candidate's former preacher's quotes.

 

Everybody in the Liberal Media is right, the American people are just wrong about what matters and need to be reminded every second of every day.

[NoCalMike 0]

You probably didn't think it was relevent to replay Howard Dean's "YAAAAAH!!!" 25 trillion times until he was completely run out of the race either. These are the things that really matter to Americans. They don't care about the war they're fighting, or the economy they're suffering through, or the heavy taxes they have to pay, they only care about one candidate's former preacher's quotes.

 

Everybody in the Liberal Media is right, the American people are just wrong about what matters and need to be reminded every second of every day.

 

.....and evening and night, and late-night.

 

[Atticus Chaos 0]

I thought Nash Mcabe at the ABC debate was the best example of that. She's had an incredibly tough life: she's unemployed, her husband 's hurt, and with the healthcare bills piling up, she has to borrow money from her parents to keep a roof over their heads....and when she gets to ask the possible future president of the united states any question whatsoever, she asked him about a flag pin.

 

What?!

[snuffbox 0]

Remember, it is only Barack Obama that is required to wear a fucking flag pin at all times.

[Firestarter 0]

let this coverage die the quick death it deserves

So you can get back to fellating your mulatto saint?

knock that fucking shit off, seriously.

No. Seriously.

 

So you can get back to fellating your mulatto saint?

Um, excuse me, but mulatto (meaning mule) is not an accepted term to use anymore. Mixed, is, I think, more acceptable.

Watch me care.

[Firestarter 0]

Citing "the overwhelming majority of people who have responded to recent surveys on this question do in fact concur" is not evidence of anything. That's still truth based on number of believers, rather than facts. You cannot determine facts or even the worthiness of a "subjective assessment" by counting heads.

I agree.

 

However, you used the phrase "burden of proof." This is relevant only insofar as it affects B.O. Hussein's electoral chances. What I am saying is that regardless of whether Wright has always been a profane, anti-American racist, and regardless of whether B.O. Hussein ever agreed with him, the people whose votes B.O. Hussein needs do not agree with you. That is proven by the poll numbers.

 

You may cite whatever facts you please. They are not enough to move public perception. And it therefore seems obvious that any "burden of proof" is in fact on B.O. Hussein.

 

Now, Obama has said he doesn't agree with Wright. Why isn't that good enough?

Because he sat in Wright's church for 20 years. Either he's lying for political advantage, as Wright claims he is, or he's unbelievably stupid. Either way I don't want him in the White House.

 

What are you afraid of? He might get elected and appoint Louis Farrakhan the Secretary of State? Might offer Al Quaeda an unconditional surrender?

Fortunately, while the second and third possibilities are not improbable, the first, upon which they are predicated, grows more and more so with each passing day.

[snuffbox 0]

Holy fucking tin-foil!

[NoCalMike 0]

Now, Obama has said he doesn't agree with Wright. Why isn't that good enough?

Because he sat in Wright's church for 20 years. Either he's lying for political advantage, as Wright claims he is, or he's unbelievably stupid. Either way I don't want him in the White House.

 

What are you afraid of? He might get elected and appoint Louis Farrakhan the Secretary of State? Might offer Al Quaeda an unconditional surrender?

Fortunately, while the second and third possibilities are not improbable, the first, upon which they are predicated, grows more and more so with each passing day.

 

And there's the rub. Now, the irony is that no one actually believes Marney herself is that stupid to believe any of it, but damned if she won't keep repeating it if it helps convince SOMEONE OUT THERE that it might be true.

 

[EricMM 0]

Marney will, in good time, learn to respect President Obama as much as she's respected most Presidents, I hope.

 

After all, she was known to lambaste me disrespecting the office of President Bush II.

[Atticus Chaos 0]

Marney will, in good time, learn to respect President Obama as much as she's respected most Presidents, I hope.

 

She'll be forced to. Don't you know he intends to enslave the white race by then?

[Guest I swallowed a Q-Tip.]

I'm not saying that no black person can ever be racist.

a black person in America can never be racist

[The Niggardly King 0]

Mike Dickah, race relations counselor

[Atticus Chaos 0]

I'm not saying that no black person can ever be racist.

a black person in America can never be racist

 

 

Actually, if you'd bothered to read the whole thing, you'll see I put 'arguably' in front of the 'a black person can never be racist' remark . It's not a fact, but it could be argued. And it has been theorised that black hostility towards whites is mostly a reaction rather than racism. Which you often find in societies where there is a repressed minority. That's not some radical claim, its something you would find in a basic sociology text.

[Gary Floyd 0]

What are you afraid of? He might get elected and appoint Louis Farrakhan the Secretary of State? Might offer Al Quaeda an unconditional surrender?

Fortunately, while the second and third possibilities are not improbable, the first, upon which they are predicated, grows more and more so with each passing day.

Has anybody told you that you're insane? Because you are.

[The Niggardly King 0]

HEH

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

No one can be prejudice, you fucking tools, because prejudice is an abstract idea (and a noun). That would be like someone being racism.

 

You can be prejudiced, which is an adjective.

[Guest I swallowed a Q-Tip.]

Smitty, I'm love you.