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If he says he is 85% there is no reason to go back and forth until he shows otherwise. Get to the first preseason game and if his arm is shot you will see he is lying, otherwise there is no point assuming otherwise.

 

The problem I see with Pennington (assuming he is 85%) is that last 15% is huge for him and sometimes it doesn't come back either with related nagging injuries or just taking it from the arm permanently. From the few Jets games I can usually catch a season he doesn't have the great speed or a cannon arm that he can make up for the 15%. He has to be spot on or else he just turns into a mediocre pocket passer.

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He's not that bad of a passer, in terms of arm strength. He threw a 65 yard strike to Santana Moss in the Charger game with a torn rotator cuff.

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Chad Pennington is a very underrated player. He hasn't really had the chance to show what he's got. If you watch his Marshall games, you'd know he is capable of so much more than he has shown. You also have to remember the offensive coordinator before Heimerdinger sucked the meat missile. This new system should really showcase Pennington's skills if he manages to stay healthy.

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Well i've read reports from training camp. And you would know he's lying how? I'll take his word over yours.

 

 

I've read the same reports, so what. I never said that I "know" anything. The exact word I used was "probably" meaning that because players and coaches have been known, in the past, to exaggerate injuries or the status of players returning from them in order to throw off opposing teams, it's not out of the question that this is what is going on here.

 

 

Anyway pinjockey is right, it's pointless to argue this until it's shown to be true.

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I think the Bills will be mediocre again and this'll end up being another season I barely pay attention to...whoever said JP Losman will be Rob Johnson II is probably right...

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Drew Bledsoe wasn't exactly setting the world on firewith his play last year, but he helped them to a good run and he had the intangibles where it counted (AKA leadership skills and previous success/a Super Bowl run in 1997).

 

Losman won't be able to ahndle the pressure of trying to guide a team in a highly talented division. Not this year, at least. The Pats and Jets are still better than Buffalo, and Miami is on the rise. The Bills will finish 3rd, no higher.

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How about The Giants (my fav team)? Last year they had a decent start, but outright blew it losing alot of games in a row . With Eli now the full time QB, I dont know what to expect, hopefully they can win more than 6 games this year, and I would ove to see them finish 500, but probably not. Whats the lowdown on them this year?

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The Giants will improve. Eli Manning, if he was anything like Peyton, will have a great year. This of course depends on his chemistry with Plaxico, Shockey and the other receivers. I see them finishing possibly 2nd in their division. They should not finish any lower than 6-10. Their defense is a question mark, but I will know more when I watch a preseason game of theirs.

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Eli will be fine, he was improving the more he played last year. He may not break out this year, but he showed that he can be a QB of the future.

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NFC:

 

The Eagles win 12-13 games and probably return to the Super Bowl. Carolina improves and wins 11 games and gets the #2 seed in the NFC. Atlanta probably takes a bit of a step back next year due what I think will be Vick still not really adapting to the West Coast offense along with a tougher schedule. Minnesota probably fires Tice halfway into the season and wins the North. Anybody's guess who wins the West.

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What the fuck are you on? Ravens are, AT BEST, a 10-6, 9-7 team. Don't forget losing Duane Starks, Peter Boulware, as well as defensive coordinator Mike Nolan will hurt the defense quite a bit. They may be deep, but they're not nearly as talented as they had been in recent years.

 

And Kyle Boller still blows donkey dick, and will continue to do so this year. With or without Heap and Mason (who will probably have a decent season himself).

 

Willing to make a wager on that? Seriously the team is incredibly deep on defense, no Peter Boulware for sure but Terrell Suggs is just about as good and is showing progress in stopping the run (though the way will use him this year they wont need too). Just because you run back an INT for a TD doesnt make you an elie CB such is the case for Duane Starks. He was never that great and I'll take Rolle, McAllister, Sanders, Carter any day of the week. Combine that with Ed Reed and Will Demps, my god I look at this defense and the potential is downright frightening.

 

As far as Boller goes he showed a lot of progress at the end of last year and doesnt need to be a superstar for the Ravens to go far. He has a much better play caller with in Jim Fassel and Mason , a healthy Heap and maybe Mark Clayton will have an impact. The bottom line, the Ravens are a major player to win it all this year.

 

Listen, 9-10 wins in the NFL are pretty damn tough to go by, I'm not saying they're not a contender, but they're certainly not one of the top teams in the AFC. And that's just being a tad bit more realistic and less homer-ish, no offense.. I just don't see how you could realistically see the Ravens being one of the best teams in the NFL next year, let alone the conference, hell let alone their own division (which might be surprisingly strong with Cincy and Pittsburgh). The Pats could come out next year still firing on all cylinders, or they might not, but I could still see Pittsburgh staying up there as long as their defense plays as well as they did last year, although 15-1 will be much harder to come by. The Jets are vastly underrated, Pennington or not, and I don't expect much more from the Colts than what they've done the past few seasons, but I could be wrong with them. Someone earlier in the thread hit the nail on the head when mentioning Dungy as a "plateau" head coach, seems to be very true.

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Listen, 9-10 wins in the NFL are pretty damn tough to go by, I'm not saying they're not a contender, but they're certainly not one of the top teams in the AFC. And that's just being a tad bit more realistic and less homer-ish, no offense.. I just don't see how you could realistically see the Ravens being one of the best teams in the NFL next year, let alone the conference, hell let alone their own division (which might be surprisingly strong with Cincy and Pittsburgh). The Pats could come out next year still firing on all cylinders, or they might not, but I could still see Pittsburgh staying up there as long as their defense plays as well as they did last year, although 15-1 will be much harder to come by. The Jets are vastly underrated, Pennington or not, and I don't expect much more from the Colts than what they've done the past few seasons, but I could be wrong with them. Someone

 

First off I am by no means a Ravens fan, I hate Ray Lewis but I love Brian Billick so thats pretty much a wash. With respect to the AFC North, I dont think thats gonna be that strong of a division. On top of Roethlisberger's likely growing pains and the health of the RB position the Steelers are also not a very deep football team in almost all positions. This lack of depth will hurt them this year. As far as the Bengals go, I'm a big believer in Carson Palmer and I think he can have a Pro Bowl year but that defense has been BAD the last two years and I'm not a fan of Chuck Bresnehan who they hired as D-Coordinator. Cincinatti will be an exciting team and fun to watch but once again hover around the .500 mark.

 

I agree, the Jets could also be a MAJOR factor but I have to see a) how Jay Fiedler looks in the new scheme and b) how quickly Chad Pennington shakes off the rust. If the QB postion holds true they are a big SB contender, I do like the rest of the team a lot but I'm in a wait and see mode with them.

 

Someone earlier in the thread hit the nail on the head when mentioning Dungy as a "plateau" head coach, seems to be very true.

 

That was me.

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I agree with the Dungy as a plateau coach statement as well. In a couple of years Indy will get tired of losing in the playoffs and Dungy will end up elsewhere, where he will take a team that is an underachiever (Cinncinnati, Cleveland, etc) and make them into a first round loser playoff team. Wash, rinse, repeat.

 

He just seems to be able to only do so much, with his peak being not quite good enough. I mean really, Payton Manning set an NFL record for TD passes last year, how can they NOT win the AFC??

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He just seems to be able to only do so much, with his peak being not quite good enough. I mean really, Payton Manning set an NFL record for TD passes last year, how can they NOT win the AFC??

 

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"Not on my fuckin' watch!"

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Good point, neither Manning or Dungy seem to have a clue how to beat those guys. This year will be telling really as far as the Patriots and Belichick's mystique goes. If they win again, hell even if the lose in the AFC Championship game, I'll never speak ill of them again. And this is coming from a Dolphin fan (since 1984).

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Drew Bledsoe wasn't exactly setting the world on firewith his play last year, but he helped them to a good run and he had the intangibles where it counted (AKA leadership skills and previous success/a Super Bowl run in 1997).

 

Losman won't be able to ahndle the pressure of trying to guide a team in a highly talented division.  Not this year, at least.  The Pats and Jets are still better than Buffalo, and Miami is on the rise.  The Bills will finish 3rd, no higher.

 

Oh don't get me wrong "Cement Shoes" Bledsoe wasn't winning any points with me, but the defense kicked ass all year and with McGahee really coming on strong, the way the last half of the season was going, it was a fun time to be a Bills fan...until they got beat by Pittsburgh's 2nd and 3rd stringers in the game they HAD to win...

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He just seems to be able to only do so much, with his peak being not quite good enough. I mean really, Payton Manning set an NFL record for TD passes last year, how can they NOT win the AFC??

 

AP-pats-rams-bill-belichick-hands-up_7533948_jpg.jpg

 

"Not on my fuckin' watch!"

 

 

LMAO. I was waiting for someone to bring up the Pats/Colts.

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Seymour ended his holdout, so that's the last "offseason issue" the Pats needed to deal with. I'm predicting (before any games whatsoever are played) 10 wins at the worst (if the secondary doesn't hold) and 13 at best for them this year.

 

I was planning at the end of August on doing another "10 Burning Questions" thing but this time on the forums so more people can take place, but this thread seems to be the predictions thread.

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