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Jeff Jarrett: Bad For TNA, Bad With Black People

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Oh yeah I agree. Thats why I said he was bad for the promotion. But while they debut on TV, they're going to want all the stars recognised by your average mark that they can get.

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Oh yeah I agree. Thats why I said he was bad for the promotion. But while they debut on TV, they're going to want all the stars recognised by your average mark that they can get.

 

I actually tend to agree with this opinion, but this should only hold water for the first month or so of the show. From that point on, everything should be established and the big names should not be as much of an imporatance overall.

 

Ideally, what I think they should do is have Jarrett be on Impact up until the BFG ppv, where he loses to Raven in a loser leaves TNA match. Then hopefully they really do let him go and Jarrett can go to WWWA or whatever the hell that organization is called. Hell, he can even debut on their 10/29 supposed ppv they are doing.

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Jarrett's a better champion than Raven, IMO.  I don't find either to be a top guy, but there's more chance of the casual fan ordering a PPV to see JJ lose the title than to see Raven defend it.

Jarrett actively turns off fans when he's the champion. The live fans hate him, and not in the right way, and the majority of TNA's fans, who are internet fans right now, hate Jarrett, also not in the good way. When the casual fan last saw Jarrett he was one of the guys on top of a promotion that the people saw die in front of their eyes. That is not someone to have as your champion when you're making your first foray into the national spotlight. While Raven didn't get a top level push in WCW or WWE, at least he doesn't have the stigma of being the guy on top of a national promotion as it faded away and died.

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- He's a better in-ring worker.

 

- He's a bigger name.

 

- He's more reliable.

 

Look, I don't think either belongs in TNA at all.  At ALL.

- He's a better in-ring worker.

 

If by better you mean more boring, bland and ordinary, then you'd be right.

 

- He's a bigger name.

 

A bigger name, but with a bigger stigma, and more drawbacks.

 

- He's more reliable.

 

Yeah, at pushing himself above all others and burying people who threaten his spot.

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I think it's a tough call on who's the better worker.

 

I think Raven has gotten a lot better over the years of TNA. I think if Raven was going balls out in a regular match, he's a better worker than Jeff. It's hard to compare them, cuz Jarrett is always in 1on1 regular matches that usually have the same finish(not always his fault) but Raven is usually in garbage matches that have the same spots in them(not always his fault either).

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Guest Fishyswa

The biggest difference between the two is pretty simple...

 

People won't tune in to see Jarret lose. They'll land there, see him wrestling, and hope he loses. No one's gonna be spending 30 dollars to see Jarret lose, no one's gonna be tuning into Impact to see him lose. The WWE survived on die-hard buys during Triple H's run, TNA can't do the same.

 

People will tune in to see Raven be Raven, cut promo's, DDT people and be 'hardcore'. Not a lot, certainly not enough to "make TNA", but more than Jarret.

 

It's even worse with how Jarret books himself at times. Over-coming run-ins, kicking out of finishers, if he books himself like that, you can forget about anyone paying to see him lose. So either way Raven's gotta be a better choice.

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Jarrett is a bigger name than Raven. But if he was showen to be at a level that no one else in TNA could match, then no one would want to tune in seeing as he was a disastorous draw during his WCW run.

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Plus it makes everyone else look like shit. JJ is supposedly on top because he's the biggest name, and yet TNA hasn't been able to make other nameworthy wrestlers in their three years of existence? At some point, that arguement becomes moot when they clearly make no effort to make new stars.

 

The thing is this: JJ is on top because "he's the only big name", but he's the only big name because he's the only one they prominently feature. Catch 22.

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