Enigma 0 Report post Posted September 8, 2005 World Wrestling Entertainment dropped creative team member Rudy Fischmann, who had been with the company about 8-12 weeks. Fischmann had a reputation for "acting markish" according to one source and for talking down to wrestlers despite his relatively low position on the creative team's totem poll. One of the last straws was said to have been Fischmann browbeating and yelling at Ashley Massaro and Torrie Wilson after their match on Monday. Despite the Divas being told by several road agents and even Vince McMahon that the bout (which obviously didn't go well) was OK, Fischmann loudly complained that it wasn't what he wanted out of the segment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justcoz 0 Report post Posted September 8, 2005 but their match did suck.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gary Floyd 0 Report post Posted September 8, 2005 but their match did suck.... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Shhhh, don't break the writers (or Vince's) dillusions! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dangerous A 0 Report post Posted September 8, 2005 S D, you should post a source. Just saying. If this is true, well, I'm glad someone spoke the truth to the divas. Their match sucked. Hard. If Vince and the other road agents said the match was ok, then I'm still under the belief that Vince just surrounds himself with yes-men and if someone steps outside of their yes-men role, they end up like Mr. Fischmann. If this story is indeed true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nokia Report post Posted September 8, 2005 I saw this news item at pwinsider.com..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Just John 0 Report post Posted September 8, 2005 Yeah, that match was Jackie Gayda bad. Ashley holds the record of worst sunset flip in history. I don't know why the last straw was berating a divas match, when the article makes it sound like he talked down to established wrestlers prior to this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dangerous A 0 Report post Posted September 8, 2005 It's on Meltz's site as well. The best part of the blurb is... WWE fired Rudy Fishmann on Tuesday night from the writing team. Apparently they were mad at him because he only was critical of the Torrie Wilson vs. Ashley Massaro match. No shit. Dusty Rhodes was in the office helping with writing today. We're either going to see something decent or unintentional comedy of the WrestleCrap variety coming from this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted September 8, 2005 "Not what he wanted out of the segment"?? Come on, this guy had to go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted September 8, 2005 I'm more bothered by the fact that anyone thought that Ashley/Torrie match would even be "okay." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mandarin 0 Report post Posted September 8, 2005 "Not what he wanted out of the segment"?? Come on, this guy had to go. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> We'll never find out what he truly expected from it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted September 8, 2005 Well, it's been reported for a while that if you're not a "yes man" to Vince, you usually don't last too long with the company... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted September 8, 2005 It's things like this that make me feel justified for quitting on the product. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2005 but their match did suck.... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's it - you're fired. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dogbert 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2005 Is Fit Finlay still with the company? Ashley already acknowledged that she wanted to wrestle, and that she had already started training. Good... but it doesn't make her a wrestler yet. WWE should do with her what they did with Trish: put her in a management position on-air while Fit (or another of the road agents if he isn't around) shows her how to do the in-ring part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2005 Is Fit Finlay still with the company? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes, but he's on the SD side now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2005 CM Punk? Down in OVW. Barely-trained Ashley? On Raw having matches & interview segments. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest *KNK* Report post Posted September 9, 2005 CM Punk? Down in OVW. Barely-trained Ashley? On Raw having matches & interview segments. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> CM Punk doesn't have tits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2005 I'm confused by the "not what he wanted out of the segment" comment, since the only reason Torrie's on TV is to grab the attention of channel surfers by wearing outifts that show off her body. Did the segment not do that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mandarin 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2005 CM Punk? Down in OVW. Barely-trained Ashley? On Raw having matches & interview segments. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> CM Punk doesn't have tits. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Alexis Laree has the tits you need, bruddah. I see no reason not to bring him in right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2005 He has to be reprogrammed to bore you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dogbert 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2005 Is Fit Finlay still with the company? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes, but he's on the SD side now. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Okay, then get Dean Malenko to do it. I'd figure he could teach a wet mop how to put on matches that'd hit at least ***. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2005 The greenhorn needs to learn how to work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2005 Well, whether he's right about it or not, he has to address the problem with the other writers, McMahon or the workers themselves. The way that he went about it was unprofessional and screams of markdom. Then again, what the fuck was he expecting out of two non-wrestlers? And how does he have any stroke to even complain? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2005 CM Punk? Down in OVW. Barely-trained Ashley? On Raw having matches & interview segments. Hmm, one has a $250,000 contract to validate, and the other doesn't? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2005 But doesn't embarassing yourself every week on live TV kinda hurt that $250,000 contract? If she keeps that up, the crowd is going to take a crap on her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2005 Somehow I don't think he cared about the quality of wrestling, but rather, they didn't hit the spots he wanted them to so he got angry. I don't think the WWE is ever hard on their women, well, in the critical way, at least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2005 Nor should they really. I mean they're not attempting to run a competitive women's division. They all know they are there because they are eye candy. So it's counterproductive to get on their cases for not putting on **** affairs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2005 Agreed. Yelling at someone like Ashley, who is new and not used to the WWE environment, would only create more problems. You have to coddle them, you see, because they are weak-minded and very fragile. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mandarin 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2005 Somehow I don't think he cared about the quality of wrestling, but rather, they didn't hit the spots he wanted them to so he got angry. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Maybe that sunset flip was supposed to be the pin reversal spot where all us horny males get to salivate over the ladies' spread clothed crotches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted September 9, 2005 At least Christy apologized profusely for her match sucking ass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
