ZGangsta 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2005 From InsidePulse: " The following are the ratings for recent WWE and TNA programming: -RAW: 4.0 cable rating (5.7 share), down from last week's 4.4 (three-hour show) and 4.7 (the part of the show that ran from 9-11) -TNA iMPACT Replay: 0.5 -AM Raw: 0.5 cable rating (1.4 share) -10/7 edition of Smackdown: 2.4 broadcast rating (4.1 share)" So a .4 drop in one week (or .7 if you want to look at it that way) can't be good, but it's not apocalypse or anything. Was there more Baseball/Football competition this week? And for that matter do other sports really make a difference in the Raw ratings? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest *KNK* Report post Posted October 12, 2005 From InsidePulse: " The following are the ratings for recent WWE and TNA programming: -RAW: 4.0 cable rating (5.7 share), down from last week's 4.4 (three-hour show) and 4.7 (the part of the show that ran from 9-11) -TNA iMPACT Replay: 0.5 -AM Raw: 0.5 cable rating (1.4 share) -10/7 edition of Smackdown: 2.4 broadcast rating (4.1 share)" So a .4 drop in one week (or .7 if you want to look at it that way) can't be good, but it's not apocalypse or anything. Was there more Baseball/Football competition this week? And for that matter do other sports really make a difference in the Raw ratings? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> A game five between two big markets("LA" and NY) and a actual decent and close football team including the ratings draw of the powder blue Chargers unis. However, MNF and other sports aren't difference makers in Raw's declining ratings. Homecoming sucked and the viewers didn't care to watch last night. I would only suspect the rating drops more after yesterday's pathetic show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZGangsta 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2005 From InsidePulse: " The following are the ratings for recent WWE and TNA programming: -RAW: 4.0 cable rating (5.7 share), down from last week's 4.4 (three-hour show) and 4.7 (the part of the show that ran from 9-11) -TNA iMPACT Replay: 0.5 -AM Raw: 0.5 cable rating (1.4 share) -10/7 edition of Smackdown: 2.4 broadcast rating (4.1 share)" So a .4 drop in one week (or .7 if you want to look at it that way) can't be good, but it's not apocalypse or anything. Was there more Baseball/Football competition this week? And for that matter do other sports really make a difference in the Raw ratings? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> A game five between two big markets("LA" and NY) and a actual decent and close football team including the ratings draw of the powder blue Chargers unis. However, MNF and other sports aren't difference makers in Raw's declining ratings. Homecoming sucked and the viewers didn't care to watch last night. I would only suspect the rating drops more after yesterday's pathetic show. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The fact that the Chargers were playing in an alternate uniform cannot seriously be considered a ratings draw can it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo Effect 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2005 AM Raw? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2005 Homecoming sucked and the viewers didn't care to watch last night. Homecoming was probably a great show for the casual fan. Last night's episode, however, was not. I'd like to see the quarter-hours for the show, especially with the opening and ending segments. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eclipse 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2005 So you are telling me a SHORTENED version of RAW drew the same as TNA's replay? Not good....not good at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo Effect 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2005 So you are telling me a SHORTENED version of RAW drew the same as TNA's replay? Not good....not good at all. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No, not really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eirejmcmahon 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2005 TNA is pulling nearly a 1/3 of what Smackdown is managing! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest *KNK* Report post Posted October 12, 2005 From InsidePulse: " The following are the ratings for recent WWE and TNA programming: -RAW: 4.0 cable rating (5.7 share), down from last week's 4.4 (three-hour show) and 4.7 (the part of the show that ran from 9-11) -TNA iMPACT Replay: 0.5 -AM Raw: 0.5 cable rating (1.4 share) -10/7 edition of Smackdown: 2.4 broadcast rating (4.1 share)" So a .4 drop in one week (or .7 if you want to look at it that way) can't be good, but it's not apocalypse or anything. Was there more Baseball/Football competition this week? And for that matter do other sports really make a difference in the Raw ratings? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> A game five between two big markets("LA" and NY) and a actual decent and close football team including the ratings draw of the powder blue Chargers unis. However, MNF and other sports aren't difference makers in Raw's declining ratings. Homecoming sucked and the viewers didn't care to watch last night. I would only suspect the rating drops more after yesterday's pathetic show. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The fact that the Chargers were playing in an alternate uniform cannot seriously be considered a ratings draw can it? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It was sarcasm but it IS the best uniform in sports. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest karlitoapple Report post Posted October 12, 2005 TNA is pulling nearly a 1/3 of what Smackdown is managing! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not quite. Network TV ratings are factored in differently than cable. A 2.4 network rating has a different amount of viewers compared to cable. Not sure if you factored this in or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eirejmcmahon 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2005 I didn't, thanks for the heads up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheDon Report post Posted October 12, 2005 I thought McMahonomania equaled ratings. Get Linda, Stephanie and Vince off my fucking tv. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sluggo 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2005 AM Raw?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustJoe2k5 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2005 Saturday morning show on USA, pretty much Monday Night RAW on fast forward. Highlights all of the important matches and storylines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perfxion 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2005 I am shocked the show got over a 4.0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sluggo 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2005 Saturday morning show on USA, pretty much Monday Night RAW on fast forward. Highlights all of the important matches and storylines. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> a.k.a. Bottom Line? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pochorenella 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2005 So you are telling me a SHORTENED version of RAW drew the same as TNA's replay? Not good....not good at all. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not good for whom? For WWE or for TNA? AM RAW is a saturday morning show, a la Superstars or Bottom Line. It doesn't matter if it's a condensed RAW version. The Impact replay is on Monday night, which is a proven, better spot than any other day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2005 Monday night midnight and Saturday morning are too different breeds of animal. The midnight TNA cannot be viewed by any younger fans...hell I'm not sure if TNA can be viewed by younger fans period with the late night. Saturday morning isn't much better and really it just comes off as filler. I wouldn't even bother comparing the two. I just want to see who people in the WWE blame when they can't point the finger at Spiketv for the massive fan loss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hyperchord24 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2005 Monday night midnight and Saturday morning are too different breeds of animal. The midnight TNA cannot be viewed by any younger fans...hell I'm not sure if TNA can be viewed by younger fans period with the late night. Saturday morning isn't much better and really it just comes off as filler. I wouldn't even bother comparing the two. I just want to see who people in the WWE blame when they can't point the finger at Spiketv for the massive fan loss. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Shane-o-mac wasn't on the show. That's what they'll point their collective finger at! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fishyswa Report post Posted October 12, 2005 A game five between two big markets("LA" and NY) and a actual decent and close football team including the ratings draw of the powder blue Chargers unis. However, MNF and other sports aren't difference makers in Raw's declining ratings. Homecoming sucked and the viewers didn't care to watch last night. I would only suspect the rating drops more after yesterday's pathetic show. Can you explain how it's ok to suggest the drop was because people thought it sucked, when all you have is assumption, and extreme assumption at that? Especially when you just described good reasons only to write them off as irrelevant? It could be a number of things, but assumptions like that are fucking retarded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pochorenella 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2005 Monday night midnight and Saturday morning are too different breeds of animal. The midnight TNA cannot be viewed by any younger fans...hell I'm not sure if TNA can be viewed by younger fans period with the late night. Saturday morning isn't much better and really it just comes off as filler. I wouldn't even bother comparing the two. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's what I was trying to imply. The other statement just seemed like a cheap poke at WWE to me. But hey, it's fun to do that, right? I just want to see who people in the WWE blame when they can't point the finger at Spiketv for the massive fan loss. I really don't see the catastrophe many are pointing out for the drop on this week. A .4 loss is not that big a deal to me considering it's better than what RAW was averagin the past few months on Spike, and the fact that it's the follow-up to a massively-publicyzed return show packed with all kinds of big-profile matches and big-time returns, whereas this monday's show had but a fraction of that hype. Now, if you wanna state that the drop is .7 from last week's 9pm-11pm only, then you also have to concede that 4.7 for two hours (not 4.4 for three) was the real rating for last week's show, which in turn would be the highest rating since God knows when on Spike. What I do think is worrying is the show's quality, which has been hit-and-miss for a long while now. USA gives WWE a few more homes than Spike, and that's good, but if they don't hook that audience then they're bound to slide again to those horrible 3.2s or less they had lately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naiwf 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2005 I really don't see the catastrophe many are pointing out for the drop on this week. A .4 loss is not that big a deal to me considering it's better than what RAW was averagin the past few months on Spike, and the fact that it's the follow-up to a massively-publicyzed return show packed with all kinds of big-profile matches and big-time returns, whereas this monday's show had but a fraction of that hype. Now, if you wanna state that the drop is .7 from last week's 9pm-11pm only, then you also have to concede that 4.7 for two hours (not 4.4 for three) was the real rating for last week's show, which in turn would be the highest rating since God knows when on Spike. What I do think is worrying is the show's quality, which has been hit-and-miss for a long while now. USA gives WWE a few more homes than Spike, and that's good, but if they don't hook that audience then they're bound to slide again to those horrible 3.2s or less they had lately. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> A 9% drop in your audience isn't good no matter what the circumstances, and if you just want to factor in the 9-11 hours, it's almost a 15% drop in a single week. That says to me that people tuned in because they saw all the hype. realized the show sucked (or was more of the same old same old) and didn't come back. I'm sure they won't drop precipitously again next week but I wouldn't be surprised to see 3.7s or 3.8's or so becoming the norm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fishyswa Report post Posted October 12, 2005 What about the 91% of people who enjoyed it and came back? How come we never talk about them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2005 Because it's not polite to talk about the mentally handicapped. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Rubin Report post Posted October 12, 2005 Amazing how the internet keeps trying to spin TNA's ratings as being a monster success. I've been on the net for years and I swear I've never seen the type of spin job on the ratings for any wrestling show like I've been seeing now with TNA. Making a big deal out of a TNA replay doing the same as a WWE recap show is a joke when most people will watch Raw on Monday nights rather than wake up Saturday mornings or whatever. The funny thing is that people were saying that the TNA replay time slot is much better than their original airing, yet, it's been drawing lower. The big deal about TNA beating Velocity is a joke given that Velocity was only a recap show with jobber matches that was never even promoted. TNA has gotten more promotion and Impact is suppose to be their main show and it has been drawing like a 0.3 higher. It's just funny how people are overhyping their ratings. They act like a jump to a .82 from a .78 is like them jumping to a 6.0. ECW drew the same ratings and people still talk about them being a major flop. If Raw slips to those numbers people will say that they are going bankrupt . If WCW did those numbers they would've been laughed at. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hyperchord24 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2005 Amazing how the internet keeps trying to spin TNA's ratings as being a monster success. I've been on the net for years and I swear I've never seen the type of spin job on the ratings for any wrestling show like I've been seeing now with TNA. Making a big deal out of a TNA replay doing the same as a WWE recap show is a joke when most people will watch Raw on Monday nights rather than wake up Saturday mornings or whatever. The funny thing is that people were saying that the TNA replay time slot is much better than their original airing, yet, it's been drawing lower. The big deal about TNA beating Velocity is a joke given that Velocity was only a recap show with jobber matches that was never even promoted. TNA has gotten more promotion and Impact is suppose to be their main show and it has been drawing like a 0.3 higher. It's just funny how people are overhyping their ratings. They act like a jump to a .82 from a .78 is like them jumping to a 6.0. ECW drew the same ratings and people still talk about them being a major flop. If Raw slips to those numbers people will say that they are going bankrupt . If WCW did those numbers they would've been laughed at. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> People want another wrestling promotion to do well. That's all it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2005 The ECW show was basically not promoted though...TNA has had a hell of a lot more hype than ECW. TNA has some problems at the core: Do people really want to see a promotion based around Jeff Jarrett? Do people want to see a 6 sided ring? Do people beyond ultra smarks care about faceless cruisers fighting for a title that has no specific meaning? The main problem with problem with making the X division the main drawing card is that cruiserweight wrestling has never really been THE main draw of a promotion in the U.S. It can be a very entertaining side meal from the main course (a la WCW) but I'm not sure it can be the main draw no matter how good the matches are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naiwf 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2005 What about the 91% of people who enjoyed it and came back? How come we never talk about them. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Every show that's ever been cancelled has had an audience. It's the SIZE of the audience relative to expectations/previous ratings that matters, not how many people are loyal to the show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steviekick 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2005 The ECW show was basically not promoted though...TNA has had a hell of a lot more hype than ECW. TNA has some problems at the core: Do people really want to see a promotion based around Jeff Jarrett? Do people want to see a 6 sided ring? Do people beyond ultra smarks care about faceless cruisers fighting for a title that has no specific meaning? The main problem with problem with making the X division the main drawing card is that cruiserweight wrestling has never really been THE main draw of a promotion in the U.S. It can be a very entertaining side meal from the main course (a la WCW) but I'm not sure it can be the main draw no matter how good the matches are. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> True, but there was a difference between ECW getting a 0.8 and TNA getting the same rating. ECW was getting it at the peak of a wrestling boom and TNA is getting it during a lull. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericholic82 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2005 they replayed raw last week (a 2 hour version) a couple of times on USA. I wonder what the ratings for that was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites