Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2005 Whether someone wants to accept the story is up to them. It doesn't stop it from being true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobobrazil1984 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2005 Wasn't there heat between these two back around 99/2000? I rememeber HBK dodging that question as well during his RF Shoot. I remember reading something about HBK and HHH working to sabotage Rock early in his career (I vaguely remember a rumor about them lobbying to have him job the I-C belt to Bret or something like that), plus there was that promo back in 02 where HBK took a cheap shot at Rock out of the blue ("...just like the Rock is jealous of Hunter"), so there could be some kinda heat between these two. Anyway, I wouldn't rule out a match between these two. There's a poll on WWE.com asking whether or not people would wanna see HBK vs the Rock, and as you can imagine most people voted yes. This could all be a work to get people interested in a match between the two. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Meltzer stated in his daily update yesterday that this is NOT a work, and that The Rock really does dislike Michaels and has no desire to ever work with him. Now, as for why the Rock dislikes Michaels so much, here's Meltzer's take (from 8-9-05 on the WrestlingClassics board): "The incident in question was a TV match in 1997 with Bret Hart as a heel vs. Rock as a face. rock and HHH were rivals for the same spot, and it was booked for Hart to win with a sharpshooter. Hart went to management and said Rock was going to be the future superstar of the company and he saw no reason to beat him. He knew why it was booked that way, so he did some sort of DQ finish instead. Shawn cried like a baby over it because their ingenious plan had been screwed. That's why, to this day, the guys Rock always praises the most are Hart and Austin. As far as Rock refusing to work with Michaels. I don't buy it, and I'm pretty sure if that was the case, I'd know. Saying he has no desire, that I can believe, but refusing, seriously, he's long past sweating anything that goes on in pro wrestling." Keep in mind that Meltzer didn't know (until now) that the Rock had absolutely no desire to work with HBK. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sorry but I don't buy that story for a second. That sounds like classic Meltzer revisionist history designed to make Bret look as good as possible and make Shawn and HHH look as bad as possible. "Rock was going to be the future superstar of the company"? And Meltzer makes it sound like Rock losing to main event star Bret Hart in that situation would have permanently buried him or something so that HHH could "take his spot". It's just more pro-Bret bullshit from Dave. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I've heard that Bret story before, years ago in fact. It might have even been from Bret but dont quote me on that. Of course that doesn't mean much, maybe it was made up years ago, but the point being it wasn't something just made up now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hektik 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2005 Ummm Meltz is usually pro-Shawn and anti-Bret. Hell he ragged on Bret endlessly during that Flair stuff last year. I don't think he is anti or pro either guy. I would say he has a better relationship with Bret, but that was not until after the whole Montreal incident. Before Montreal they didn't have a good relationship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JasonX 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2005 If anyone knew the answer to the million dollar question "Why does Vince listen to Shawn?" it would explain pretty damn near every decision they made from 1994 to today. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He is a huge mark for Shawn (just listen to his past commentary), but that wouldn't really answer the question. There does seem to be something more to the situation. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Cue the longstanding urban legend that Shawn was Vince's fuck-toy from 1994-98, hence his power backstage over the direction of the company story...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest rawmvp Report post Posted October 24, 2005 Oh, that's no urban legend. I'm pretty sure Shawn and Vince did have a homosexual relationship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted October 24, 2005 Please get banned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Stunt Granny Report post Posted October 24, 2005 I dunno if I HAD to fuck a guy I'd have to go with Shawn Michaels. I'd wear the Hitman sunglasses while doing it for good measure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobobrazil1984 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2005 ^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naked Snake 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2005 Did the Rock boycott Raw the day after the Survivor Series 1997 like Owen, Bulldog, Foley, etc did? I mean if Rock was so high on Bret, wouldn't he boycott Raw to show support for Hart? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites