Guest [censored] Report post Posted November 5, 2005 I guess I need to grow up because I refuse to call it anything but NWA which is what is should have been called in the first place. That other name is an adjective not a noun, period. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silence 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2005 It's hard to develop serious fans when the only areas you've ever run are Nashville and Orlando.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's how hosses like Lance Hoyt suddenly get over without doing anything to warrant it, besides looking like a Test rip-off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SavageRulz Report post Posted November 5, 2005 The positive spin is that it seems that TNA has a core audience of .8+ that is going to find and watch TNA whenever it is on. They did drop a full point from the CSI lead in but I don't see that as indicator of anything. The pt special was aired against the new season of CSI and its CSI type show that follows which would easily explain why some turned away. I would be more interested in what the UFC did following the show. Hopefully, the positive reviews for the show will help build interest and help build their ratings. If not, it looks like they may be stuck on saturday nights for an awful long time (or til the company folds). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TNABaddboi 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2005 I'm disappointed in the number, and I'm sure TNA and Spike are too, though they probably won't say so publically. My positive spin is similiar to Savage's, in that TNA's core audience stuck with them, and didn't get bored as the show passed the normal length. I don't think that this means we'll never see TNA in primetime (who knows how the next 3 specials will do?), but if it delays that from happening, then maybe at the very least, we could see TNA use that fact to convince Spike that they could benefit from expanding Impact on Saturdays, and maybe go from 10-12. I personally think they have to get the 2 hour format before going to primetime anyway. It's just logically the next step. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
David Blazenwing 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2005 4)The ludicrous TNA name. Seriously, Total Nonstop Action? You can't get any more lame than that. In fact, I've had a few friends comment on how horrible the brand name is.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Every time I mention TNA around my dad, he asks "Oh, tits and ass?" It's starting to get really old. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silence 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2005 Every time I mention TNA around my dad, he asks "Oh, tits and ass?" It's starting to get really old. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> How about TNW: Total Non-stop Wrestling? That might sound lame, but at least no one would ask you if it meant "Tits 'N Ass" anymore. They could go with Total Impact Wrestling, possibly. However, the World Heavyweight title is still called the "NWA World Heavyweight title" since that's the NWA belt that TNA's had all along. Weird considering that IIRC, TNA had cut ties with the NWA a long time ago and that's why TNA isn't called NWA-TNA anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2005 What did you expect with spoilers all over the net saying that Jeff Jarrett was going to get the belt back? Nobody wants to see Jarrett as champion, PERIOD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2005 I turned off at the main event. I have zero desire to see Jeff Jarrett's Clusterfuck Match Part 456. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2005 It makes me wonder if instead of that match for the main event, if they went with the Genesis main event instead (Jarrett/AMW vs Rhino/3D), would more people be willing to tune in? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2005 How can a company with the name of TOTAL NONSTOP ACTION have a boring predictable champion in Jeff Jarrett as the main event? Who the hell wants to see a 2nd rate Honky Tonk Man pad his win-loss record chasing after some nonrevelent record that nobody but him cares about? I don't care if they get one of the Buffers to do the announcing to say "He is the 65 time Champion of the South"....I will still change the channel when Jeff Jarret is on tv. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Leelee Report post Posted November 6, 2005 Well, I can see why Jarrett should be one of the main guys in TNA... he can definitely talk, and he wrestles decent matches. TNA has very few with both qualities... and it doesn't hurt that they don't even try building personalities for others. I just won't watch Jarrett, because he exudes failure to me. When I see him, I think WCW. The death of WCW. And jobbing to Chyna. Probably unfair, but that's how it is. And I'm sure I'm not alone on that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TNABaddboi 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2005 here's some more info on the rating from the torch: -TNA's Thursday night special drew quarter hour ratings relatively consistent throughout. Since a wrestling show's natural tendency is to grow in viewership as a show progresses, it's not a strong endorsement of Jeff Jarrett vs. Rhino as the main event that it drew slightly below what the first quarter hour drew. Overall, though, the rating never sank below 0.80 and never grew much above 0.90. The 0.9 rating is a success in the sense that it was 23 percent higher than the average for the previous four weeks in that prime time two hour slot. -Had TNA drawn a rating in the 1.4 range, Spike TV probably would have immediately began making plans for a shift to Thursday nights in prime time for Impact. The 0.9 won't stop there from being more prime time specials, but it basically puts TNA in a position now to have to find a way to show some growth on Saturdays. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tominator89 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2005 I tell people that I'm watching NWA and just ignore the TNA part. As far as the show itself, the number may be disappointing since it didn't grow. But, NWA on Spike TV is still relatively new. There would be bigger problems if the rating went down. I think the company is doing fine. They have a core audience to build off of and I think the signing of Christian will have a HUGE impact. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericho2000Mark 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2005 here's some more info on the rating from the torch: Since a wrestling show's natural tendency is to grow in viewership as a show progresses, it's not a strong endorsement of Jeff Jarrett vs. Rhino as the main event that it drew slightly below what the first quarter hour drew. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well having a WWE style match between two former WWE midcarders isn't exactly the best way to differentiate themselves from WWE, or attract a new audience, considering they can watch two hours of that shit every Monday and Friday. It also indicates Jarrett is the weak link for the company when everything else drew better than his match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Dangerous A 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2005 I'd like to hope that with Jerry Jarrett pulling the stunt he did last week and news like Jeff is turning viewers off, that Jeff's power backstage will slowly dwindle and he'll just go the fuck away. It's kind of wishful thinking, but whatever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2005 Jeff's been wise enough to distance himself from his father in the business dealings. That's why Jerry was frustrated in the first place, the idea the company and Jeff was moving on from depending on Jerry so much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SavageRulz Report post Posted November 9, 2005 Those ratings aren't correct. They are spiked. I have the Nielsen chart and the Main Event 1/10 rating per hour showed that Jarrett and Rhino hit .79 rounded up and .73 when Jarrett pinned Rhino. It just goes to show Jeff Jarrett equals a crap break. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MillenniumMan831 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2005 And the guy that'll probably suffer most of all is big bad Rhino. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SavageRulz Report post Posted November 9, 2005 Rhino deserved better than being a transitional champ. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2005 I'd like to hope that with Jerry Jarrett pulling the stunt he did last week and news like Jeff is turning viewers off, that Jeff's power backstage will slowly dwindle and he'll just go the fuck away. It's kind of wishful thinking, but whatever. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Now that TNA has Christian why do they need Jeff? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dangerous A 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2005 Hell, even without Christian, why do they need Jeff? Jeff will still be around as long as Dixie Carter continues to be a mark for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EdwardKnoxII 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2005 Weird considering that IIRC, TNA had cut ties with the NWA a long time ago and that's why TNA isn't called NWA-TNA anymore. TNA has leased the titles from the NWA until 2014. And because of that the champs don't have to defend against contenders in the various NWA territories. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest J-Man Report post Posted November 9, 2005 Well, now with The UFC special hitting 2.0 on a SATURDAY, we now which brand will get the most attention from Spike TV. It's difficult for them NOT to support the UFC a little bit more, as both had Special the same week, and the UFC did an awerfully better number on a worse night. I think this will further slow down the chances of TNA going to a primetime slot - but I really think that Spike will continue to show support for TNA, especially during the time between TUF seasons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest [censored] Report post Posted November 10, 2005 TNA should focus on getting a second earlier hour on Saturday before they worry about going primetime. Look where the company was a year ago, and two years ago. All of their progress has come in small increments. The next logical step is to have a 2 hour Impact starting at 10PM on Saturday with a UFC lead in starting a 9 or 8. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest God Junior Report post Posted November 10, 2005 Is the rating for the replay out yet? I think that'd be interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Bulwark Report post Posted November 10, 2005 They replayed it? Damn, I wanted to see it again... I think the Genesis spoiler commercial probably had a lot to do with the ratings dip for the main event. If I had seen that and I wasn't a diehard TNA fan, I would have tuned out. I'm actually glad the ratings stayed the same. If they pulled higher than a 1.0, I think Spike would have jumped the gun and given them a weekly prime time show... As much as I would like to see that happen, TNA just isn't ready for primetime yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites