This Week in College Football 11/21 - 11/26

[Art Sandusky 0]

I feel Notre Dame might be a couple of spots higher than they deserve, but they're really good this year. I mean, if they're playing well and equal a pretty big cash cow, I have no problem with them being in a BCS bowl. Take out that loss to Michigan State, and they've really been a kickass team this year.

[therealworldschampion 0]

I feel Notre Dame might be a couple of spots higher than they deserve, but they're really good this year. I mean, if they're playing well and equal a pretty big cash cow, I have no problem with them being in a BCS bowl. Take out that loss to Michigan State, and they've really been a kickass team this year.

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I was just thinking that if Texas were to lose on Friday and still win the Big XII title, the Fiesta Bowl would probably cream itself for a Notre Dame-Texas matchup...

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

If Tennessee loses to Kentucky, Fulmer's gone. I can't think of a more embarassing end to a clusterfuck of a season. I don't even have a bowl game to look forward to watching, goddammit.

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No way. You don't can an insanely successful coach for one bad season.

[gWIL 0]

Notre Dame's so overrated that they lost to Michigan State.  What is your point?

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I swear Notre Dame was a different team in that second half, they absolutely dominated Michigan State the second half of the game. Also, I'm from South Bend where Notre Dame doing well= Money for Everyone, so I suppose I'm extremely biased, but if Notre Dame is overrated then so is USC.

[Damaramu 0]

If Tennessee loses to Kentucky, Fulmer's gone. I can't think of a more embarassing end to a clusterfuck of a season. I don't even have a bowl game to look forward to watching, goddammit.

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No way. You don't can an insanely successful coach for one bad season.

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That's what I was thinking. I mean look at freaking Paterno.

That reminds me b/c an OU fan called in to the radio the other day and was like "Well Stoops better get his act together or he's gone after this season! And I won't miss him! He's ruined the team!" I mean what the fuck is that all about?

[Hogan Made Wrestling 0]

There are plenty of things wrong with Oklahoma right now, but Stoops definitely isn't one of them.

[Art Sandusky 0]

If Tennessee loses to Kentucky, Fulmer's gone. I can't think of a more embarassing end to a clusterfuck of a season. I don't even have a bowl game to look forward to watching, goddammit.

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No way. You don't can an insanely successful coach for one bad season.

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Each year results in fans attempting to explain away yet another underacheiving team. Last year was genius, but he went back on the stupid pills this year. Rarely does a Fulmer-coached team win a game it should against any team with a pulse. If not after this year, another season of squandering potential will land him in a lot more doghouses than he is already.

 

EDIT: And Oklahoma's going to a bowl at least. Expectations are very high in Big Orange Country, and a winning season at the very least isn't a whole lot to ask. A loss to Kentucky would give the Vols a 4-7 mark on the year. 4-7!

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

And last place in the SEC East, don't you forget.

 

But still, he's not going anywhere. He's already sacked the offensive coordinator and that's more than enough. A national championship buys you some time, as does coaching an SEC program to three 10-win seasons in the past 5 years (and 8 wins apiece in the years that weren't 10-winners). I mean, who the hell are you going to get besides Pete Carroll or maybe Bob Stoops--neither of whom are even close to being in play--that's likely to improve on that? Nebraska fired Frank Solich for doing way better than that and we've all seen how well that decision panned out.

[Art Sandusky 0]

Okay man, but no one had better be telling me I'm overreacting if next season ends up a clusterfuck also.

[teke184 0]

Kotz, take a serious chill-pill.

 

It's ONE bad season as of now and part of it is due to out-of-conference scheduling and bad breaks due to injury.

 

 

 

If they're bad next season, it could just be something that can't be turned around in the short-term via recruiting.

 

If the slump hits 3 or more years, he's fair game.

 

 

Just be careful what you wish for.

 

LSU tried this with long-time coach Cholly Mac (Charles McLendon) back in 1979 and had a turbulent 20 years before Nick Saban made them a consistent winner again.

[SilverPhoenix 0]

And if anyone cares, West Virginia just blew the doors open on the backyard brawl. Thus guranteeing themselves a share of the Big East Title.

 

Things are going to get real interesting in the next 2 days.

[Guest Leelee]

Fuck.

 

Does this mean South Florida has no shot at the BCS now?

 

I know every conference is different with their stupid rules in who goes.

[Guest]

USF gets in by beating West Virginia.

[Guest Leelee]

I know USF would technically win the conference, but I know some conferences base their BCS selection on who's ranked higher at the time... or, if one is ranked at least 5 spots below, and such confusion.

 

I just really want to see USF in the BCS.

 

Anything that embarasses this system is grand.

[Guest]

I don't want to see the SEC have to be embarassed by playing such a shitty team, otherwise I don't care.

[therealworldschampion 0]

The Pornstasche finishes 5-6. If I were Pitt, I'd make sure that the recruiting class they have is dead-set on going to Pitt next year because I can't imagine a 5-6 season with some embarassing losses (Notre Dame, Ohio, Rutgers, and West Virginia) enticing kids to come to Pitt...

 

Hopefully West Virginia beats South Florida next week, they're the only Big East team in contention for the conference title that could possibly hang with the opposition in their BCS bowl.

 

I would believe that Pitt is likely to not hold this year against Wannstedt since it was his first year and he was adjusting to the college game, along with getting a good recruiting class. However, if they miss a bowl game again next year, he could be in a bit of trouble.

[Damaramu 0]

The Lone Star Showdown is today and it's Vince Young's second to last chance to make a Heisman impression. With the way A&M's defense plays he should have a 400-500 total yard day.

[Guest Ether]

I know USF would technically win the conference, but I know some conferences base their BCS selection on who's ranked higher at the time... or, if one is ranked at least 5 spots below, and such confusion.

 

I just really want to see USF in the BCS.

 

Anything that embarasses this system is grand.

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If USF beats both UConn and WVU, they will have the Big East's BCS slot. The Big East apparently changed the 5 positions rule within the past year or two.

 

The Pornstasche finishes 5-6. If I were Pitt, I'd make sure that the recruiting class they have is dead-set on going to Pitt next year because I can't imagine a 5-6 season with some embarassing losses (Notre Dame, Ohio, Rutgers, and West Virginia) enticing kids to come to Pitt...

 

I would believe that Pitt is likely to not hold this year against Wannstedt since it was his first year and he was adjusting to the college game, along with getting a good recruiting class. However, if they miss a bowl game again next year, he could be in a bit of trouble.

 

So far, it looks like most of the kids are firm committments. Ironically, the one committ that might go elsewhere would be going to a 1-10 Syracuse squad, so record isn't always a factor (the recruit is from Rochester, if you're wondering). Nebraska finished 5-6 last year and still landed a top 5 recruiting class. Penn State had been horrid 4 of the last 5 years and still recruiting well last year.

 

While the good recruiting class, a favorable home schedule, and most of the starters return means Pitt should have a good season next year, it will probably still take time to build up the two biggest weakness on the team - the O-Line and the D-Line. There is a JUCO O-lineman that has Pitt listed as one of his top schools whom I feel would go a long way in helping the team for next year.

[Damaramu 0]

I didn't know Vince Young only had 796 rushing yards and 8 rushing TD's.

He has over 2000 passing yards and like 22 passing TDs though.

I wonder if he'll make it to 1,000 rushing yards and 10 rushing TDs this season?

 

He's going to have to play big to unseat Bush. Then again ESPN was waiting for any reason to fall on their knees to Bush. Granted Saturday's peformance was simply amazing but if he rushed for 100 yards and a TD and recieved for 50 yards and a TD then ESPN would fall on their knees and go "Reggie Bush is the greatest football player on the planet! Heisman! He's better than NFL players!"

 

Yes they are actually saying that shit on ESPN now and saying that he's one of the top 3 players in the world including NFL players. Bullshit when you think about who all is in the NFL and the fact that Reggie Bush is doing this stuff against lesser talent. Then they had their poll on who you are thankful to be able to watch play sports and it was all the ESPN darlings of course(Vick, Bush, Bonds, Lebron, Tiger).

 

And that's another thing. Yeah Reggie Bush is amazing and if I was running USC's offense I'd want him in the backfield. But if I needed a pure running back and we were lining up in the I-formation then I'd take Adiran Peterson in a hearbeat over Bush. AD is probably the best pure running back in the country and he's likely to win the Heisman next year or his senior year.

[Slayer 0]

I remember being so pissed in 1998 when A&M dashed K-State's national title hopes...

 

Now I'm hoping they do the same to Texas

[Damaramu 0]

How could they though? They have no defense to speak of and according to the stats I read on ESPN.com Texas has the best offense in the country.

[Damaramu 0]

  I mean, who the hell are you going to get besides Pete Carroll or maybe Bob Stoops--neither of whom are even close to being in play--that's likely to improve on that?

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There isn't no maybe about that. Look at what he did to OU.

Stoops and Carroll are the two best in the country. Too bad Stoops had to field a shitty overconfident team with no heart the only time they're likely to ever coach against each other.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

And that's another thing. Yeah Reggie Bush is amazing and if I was running USC's offense I'd want him in the backfield. But if I needed a pure running back and we were lining up in the I-formation then I'd take Adiran Peterson in a hearbeat over Bush. AD is probably the best pure running back in the country and he's likely to win the Heisman next year or his senior year.

 

*Looks at your sig* Gee can't imagine why you'd say that...

[Damaramu 0]

Well if you're going to deny that Peterson is a better proto-typical I-Formation running back then you're crazy.

Yeah Bush is better at everything else but as a pure running back then Peterson is the best. And everyone knows this that has watched him play.

Hell OU would be 3-7 right now without Adrian Peterson.

And they probably would've lost a couple of games last year without his contributions(OSU, Texas).

[Guest Leelee]

Then they had their poll on who you are thankful to be able to watch play sports and it was all the ESPN darlings of course(Vick, Bush, Bonds, Lebron, Tiger).

 

And the shame of it is that Bush was 2% behind Tiger for winning...

 

"Reggie Bush is the greatest football player on the planet! Heisman! He's better than NFL players!"

 

I think there's a good chance LenDale White ends up being the better NFL player. Bush has amazing moves, but he relies mostly on his speed in college. That won't work in the NFL. Plus, Reggie seems like an immature punk. He often starts celebrating before he's even in the end zone... and he plays nonchalant at times, thinking he can get away with it.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

As a "pure" running back, with 10 LESS carries, Bush has 1,398 yards to Peterson's 787. Bush sports a 8.6 average, Peterson only 4.5....

[Damaramu 0]

God dammit I've been saying that about LenDale White forever. Ask Porter. He knows I used to say it even before the season.

 

Reggie's fast and has moves and he's probably faster than anyone else in college football...but there are people faster in the NFL and I think he'll get laid out more than a couple of times in his first few games. Something he's never experience in college. Hell Texas may lay him out. Wonder how he'll react? It'll be a new experience.

[Damaramu 0]

As a "pure" running back, with 10 LESS carries, Bush has 1,398 yards to Peterson's 787. Bush sports a 8.6 average, Peterson only 4.5....

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Peterson has been injured. Peterson has not played much this season. Defenses key on Peterson because they know that Bomar cant' do shit to hurt them. Defense know that AD is the only weapon on OU's offense. Peterson rarely has blocking. They run vanilla running plays for Peterson where the defense knows where he's going. Compare to USC which is basically the opposite of everything I just said.

That explains it right there.

 

And look at Peterson's freshman year. It was amazing. If the dude hadn't been hurt he'd probably have well over 1500 yards this season. He nearly had 2000 his freshman year.

 

You denying Peterson's ability and greatness as a running back is pure blindness and a refusal to admit that an OU player is good. When all is said and done he'll be the greatest player in OU history.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

I don't deny his greatness, but to pick him over Bush reeks of homerism. That's all.

[Damaramu 0]

I don't deny his greatness, but to pick him over Bush reeks of homerism. That's all.

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I'd take Bush if I was running the offense that USC is running.

But if I wanted to line it up and go straight at them then I'd definitely have Peterson.

Peterson's one of the best players in the country. There is no denying that. OU would be helpless this season without him. Fuck they were helpless when he was injured. They needed 2 OTs to beat Baylor!