Guest Report post Posted November 25, 2005 They haven't played good running Big XII teams. Iowa State is the only really good running team I can think of in that conference, and they haven't played them. Shut the hell up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2005 That's bullshit. First of all that's Big XII haterism. Second of all Texas wasn't ready b/c A&M was 5-5 and Texas had blown everyone except Ohio State out this year. They were overconfident and thought they had it in the bag. Therefore they went in there not ready and had to fight for it. Just like USC has had to do this year. Once again if USC had trouble with those offenses then they'll have trouble with the #1 scoring offense. Not to mention they haven't played a defense that ranks as well as Texas. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Texas hasn't faced any good offensive teams, and as Glove said, Texas KNEW A&M was going to run, and they still couldn't stop the run. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2005 They haven't played good running Big XII teams. Iowa State is the only really good running team I can think of in that conference, and they haven't played them. Shut the hell up. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You shut up. I'm tired of listening to everyone on this board hate on the Big XII so I'm going to defend them. If you listent to you guys then the Big XII is a D 1-AA conference and USC has already beaten Texas by 50 points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2005 I wouldn't doubt it if they do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2005 Ugh, ASU needs to get their shit together for the 2nd half or the Pac-10 is looking at only four bowl eligible teams. Arizona up 17-5 at the half. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Leelee Report post Posted November 25, 2005 Somebody, save this thread! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2005 That's bullshit. First of all that's Big XII haterism. Second of all Texas wasn't ready b/c A&M was 5-5 and Texas had blown everyone except Ohio State out this year. They were overconfident and thought they had it in the bag. Therefore they went in there not ready and had to fight for it. Just like USC has had to do this year. Once again if USC had trouble with those offenses then they'll have trouble with the #1 scoring offense. Not to mention they haven't played a defense that ranks as well as Texas. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Texas hasn't faced any good offensive teams, and as Glove said, Texas KNEW A&M was going to run, and they still couldn't stop the run. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> They've played decent offensive teams. Has USC played a good defensive team? No. About on the same level as Texas has played against offenses this season. The best defense they played was Notre Dame who gave them fits. Texas is much better than ND on defense. And Texas has scored on plenty of good defenses this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2005 Do you keep forgetting that I live right in the middle of Big XII country and watch practically the same games you do every week? The Big 12 was a strong football conference from the time of its inception until a couple years ago, but with quite a few of the programs falling on hard times (Nebraska and KSU notably) it's easy to see why winning the conference isn't as impressive as, say, the SEC, ACC or even Pac 10. I don't think the conference will be on hard times for too long, but it just isn't that great right now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted November 25, 2005 They haven't played good running Big XII teams. Iowa State is the only really good running team I can think of in that conference, and they haven't played them. Shut the hell up. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You shut up. I'm tired of listening to everyone on this board hate on the Big XII so I'm going to defend them. If you listent to you guys then the Big XII is a D 1-AA conference and USC has already beaten Texas by 50 points. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Is 2 teams in the conference ranked in the top 25 supposed to prove to anyone that the conference is great? It was great last year, but now it's undefendable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2005 I wouldn't doubt it if they do. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> They won't blow Texas out. They won't come anywhere close. Texas will be the best team they've played in 2 1/2 years. To think otherwise is to ignore the facts and just hate.....again. Which you guys are becoming famous for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2005 The only conference people seems to want to take away a bid for is the Big East. No one said anything about taking away the Big 12 bid. Stop manufacturing arguments to support your persecution complex. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2005 Do you keep forgetting that I live right in the middle of Big XII country and watch practically the same games you do every week? The Big 12 was a strong football conference from the time of its inception until a couple years ago, but with quite a few of the programs falling on hard times (Nebraska and KSU notably) it's easy to see why winning the conference isn't as impressive as, say, the SEC, ACC or even Pac 10. I don't think the conference will be on hard times for too long, but it just isn't that great right now <{POST_SNAPBACK}> yes and I'm talking about the fact that these guys talk about the conference like it's never been good and they refuse to give the teams the benefit of the doubt despite a winning history. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted November 25, 2005 And Texas has scored on plenty of good defenses this season. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> 1 good defense. The Ohio State University. They won't blow Texas out. They won't come anywhere close. Texas will be the best team they've played in 2 1/2 years. To think otherwise is to ignore the facts and just hate.....again. Which you guys are becoming famous for. I think that Oklahoma team last season was a hell of a lot better than Texas is this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2005 I'm going to predict the future: December 4th, I start the Rose Bowl thread. December 5th, Al closes the Rose Bowl thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UZI Suicide 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2005 Right because you were in the locker room, you talked to the coaches and players, so you know exactly how they were feeling going into the game. You're a dumbass. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well you're a pretty big dumbass yourself with your blind hating. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What blind hating? I made points and you never refuted them, you just created your own arguments that people think the Big 12 doesn't deserve a bowl bid or that the Big 12 is a D-1AA conference, and then argued against those imaginary arguments. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Leelee Report post Posted November 25, 2005 I'm going to predict the future: December 4th, I start the Rose Bowl thread. December 5th, Al closes the Rose Bowl thread. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You didn't tell me who's competing in the Smurf Turf Classic Championship Bowl Game yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2005 I dunno, Buffalo? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2005 And Texas has scored on plenty of good defenses this season. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> 1 good defense. The Ohio State University. They won't blow Texas out. They won't come anywhere close. Texas will be the best team they've played in 2 1/2 years. To think otherwise is to ignore the facts and just hate.....again. Which you guys are becoming famous for. I think that Oklahoma team last season was a hell of a lot better than Texas is this year. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> OU last year would've been beaten by Texas at the end of last year. I was around the OU team last year. They had no heart. OU's defense is good. They were the #1 rush defense in the country for a long time. Colorado's defense isn't bad. Kansas actually has a good defense. So no they haven't played just one good defense. If they've played one good defense then USC has played no good defenses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Leelee Report post Posted November 25, 2005 They can't. I'm assuming some WAC team, and some random 6-5 BCS team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2005 Ok it's obvious nobody is going to change their mind. Just fucking drop it and we'll wait until the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted November 25, 2005 And Texas has scored on plenty of good defenses this season. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> 1 good defense. The Ohio State University. They won't blow Texas out. They won't come anywhere close. Texas will be the best team they've played in 2 1/2 years. To think otherwise is to ignore the facts and just hate.....again. Which you guys are becoming famous for. I think that Oklahoma team last season was a hell of a lot better than Texas is this year. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> OU last year would've been beaten by Texas at the end of last year. I was around the OU team last year. They had no heart. OU's defense is good. They were the #1 rush defense in the country for a long time. Colorado's defense isn't bad. Kansas actually has a good defense. So no they haven't played just one good defense. If they've played one good defense then USC has played no good defenses. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm gonna get numbers and edit, give me time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2005 Dama is selling out his own team for Texas. Can a mod change his sig to that of Texas because it's now clear he has completely switched allegiance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2005 Actually serious answer it will be Boise State against against an ACC team (Clemson/Boston College/winner of Maryland/N.C. State). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Leelee Report post Posted November 25, 2005 It's clear that the Big XII winner belongs in the New Orleans Bowl. We all agree. And it's OU's fault for being horrible since 2000. Oh no, where are they playing that bowl now? It can't be Houston, either... because 2 Houston bowls would lead to mass confusion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hogan Made Wrestling 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2005 I think that Oklahoma team last season was a hell of a lot better than Texas is this year. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'd agree except that I think Texas has a better team to play USC than Oklahoma, mainly because Vince Young will be a lot more effective against USC than Jason White. White was a great QB at tearing up bad teams with mediocre defenses, but his total lack of mobility made him decidedly mediocre against stronger teams. I don't think a Jason White-led team could have beaten tOSU like Young's team did this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2005 Bored, I heard the Pac-10 wanted to institute a Pac-10 title game, have you heard about this, and if so, do you know when it will be instituted? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2005 Dama is selling out his own team for Texas. Can a mod change his sig to that of Texas because it's now clear he has completely switched allegiance. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What? It's obvious that Texas is better than OU was last year. And I know that OU had no heart. You're telling me a team that gives up in the first quarter of the national title game has heart? Yeah it was 38-7 at halftime but Carroll said it himself "We scored 38 in a half. Why can't they? They have less to go to catch up!" But did OU even try? No. That's not heart. And I'm supporting Texas b/c they have the best chance to beat USC. Now I'm done with this argument. You guys aren't going to change my mind. You're just hating on Texas b/c they're from the Big XII and you don't want to admit someone is close to your precious Trojans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2005 It's clear that the Big XII winner belongs in the New Orleans Bowl. We all agree. And it's OU's fault for being horrible since 2000. Oh no, where are they playing that bowl now? It can't be Houston, either... because 2 Houston bowls would lead to mass confusion. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Being horrible since 2000? I showed the stats earlier. They're one of the best teams in the country aside from USC since 2000. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted November 25, 2005 She's mocking you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2005 It's clear that the Big XII winner belongs in the New Orleans Bowl. We all agree. And it's OU's fault for being horrible since 2000. Oh no, where are they playing that bowl now? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Lafayette. Cause I know everyone wants to know, here is the Sun Belt conference championship scenerios: -Louisana-Monroe wins if they beat Louisiana-Lafayette. -Arkansas State wins if they beat North Texas and ULM loses to ULL. -Louisiana-Lafayette wins if they beat ULM and Arkansas State loses to North Texas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites