Damaramu 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2005 So if Reddick and Williams have a bad night on the same night......where does that leave Duke? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therealworldschampion 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2005 How could any game outside of Durham be considered an extra home game? There are far more anti-Duke fans around the country than there are pro-Duke fans. The biggest problem with Duke is that they have no defense against centers. You look at the numbers of Indiana's center and Virginia Tech's center, they pretty much carry their teams. Shelden Williams can hardly be aggressive as he has to worry about staying out of foul trouble. Duke's biggest alumni base outside North Carolina is in the Northeast with all of their NJ and NYC alumni. IU is up 19 and may finally beat Kentucky this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustJoe2k5 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2005 How do you think it made Texas feel, Coach K was playing freshmen who rarely get playing-time with about five minutes left in the game. Eric Boateng, Jamal Boykin, and senior Ross Perkins. Boykin bares a resemblance to Shane Battier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustJoe2k5 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2005 So if Reddick and Williams have a bad night on the same night......where does that leave Duke? That's a mighty large IF. Even on an "off" night, Redick can still put up 20+ points. They will need the freshman to step it up as the season goes on, but Redick and Williams carried them last year. This year, they have a much more talented team. Don't forget about Sean Dockery either, and DeMarcus Nelson whenever he returns from injury. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2005 What a shot by Morrison! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Leelee Report post Posted December 10, 2005 If you think about it, two weapons is all that a team really needs to score the ball if the rest of the team plays good defense and good team basketball. It's not that simple... especially since JJ can't really set up his own shot. I still think PG is a weakness, on offense. Dockery proved today he's a great defender, but ball handling is still an issue. I think against a good defensive PG, Duke has trouble. This doesn't change my thoughts on Duke, though. JJ and Sheldon are great players. The young kids are improving. They'll be one of the top teams in contention for the title. They're still not #1, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therealworldschampion 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2005 Gus Johnson: "Adam Morrison is the best player in college basketball!' Dick Vitale is currently screaming bloody murder at the television for that statement... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2005 Did anyone hear that fucking CBS announcer trying to say that Adam Morrison is the best player in college basketball. That's bullshit. He's not worthy to polish JJ Redick's ball sac. He makes a lucky banked in three against an unranked OSU team and all of a sudden he's the next Larry Bird? I'm not buying it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therealworldschampion 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2005 He's not worthy to polish JJ Redick's ball sac. That's Dick Vitale's job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Leelee Report post Posted December 10, 2005 I would agree that Morrison isn't the best player... but, one cannot deny his offensive skill. Larry Bird is a bad comparison, too... Morrison's strength definitely is not his outside shot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SilverPhoenix 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2005 Did anyone hear that fucking CBS announcer trying to say that Adam Morrison is the best player in college basketball. That's bullshit. He's not worthy to polish JJ Redick's ball sac. He makes a lucky banked in three against an unranked OSU team and all of a sudden he's the next Larry Bird? I'm not buying it. Okay, lets get one thing straight here. - Adam Morrison may not be that good, this we can agree on. - JJ Redick is not that good, not at all. Saying a statement like that is a total fallacy. JJ Redick is not head and shoulders above the rest of College Basketball, and you know it. He may be the best shooter, but as a point guard (play calling, setting screens, passing the ball effectivly) there are still better than he is. So lets not start the total blowjob of JJ Redick, please? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Leelee Report post Posted December 10, 2005 JJ isn't a point guard, though. His job is to score offensively. I'd say he's the best at it. And he's an average defender, at best. Does that make him the best player in college basketball? I don't know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therealworldschampion 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2005 Never mind the fact that the past 2 tournaments, he's come up extremely short in the games that Duke has been eliminated (UConn in 2004, Michigan State in 2005). If he's the so-called "best player in the country", he should be rising to the occasion, not shrinking from it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2005 JJ Redick may not be head and shoulders above the rest of college basketball, but he is head and shoulders above Adam Morrison. All Morrison does is flail around to get cheap calls, and hit an occasional shot. JJ Redick is the best scorer in the country. He's not just a pure shooter anymore either. He drives to the basket, gets to the line, and plays solid defense too. He's never going to be an Allen Iverson type in the pros, but I think that as a #2 option, he'd be a tremendous asset to someone. Put him on the same team as LeBron, and you'll have an offensive team that will wreak havoc for years to come. Really, I don't think there is a better college basketball player than JJ Redick right now. I'm not saying his game doesn't have a couple weaknesses that could be exploited at the next level, but if there's someone better than him in the NCAA right now, I'd like to hear who. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2005 I'm surprised there hasn't been more said about this, but my god does UK ever SUCK. I mean they are just putrid, revolting, all kinds of bad. 53 fucking points? Hell, they had maybe 29 with 5 mins. left and had to go on a wild run to get to that 53! I'm worried now. U of L hasn't really had a tough game or even a road game yet, but next week we go to Rupp. It's a no win situation right now, considering UK is ultra shitty and U of L will be #4 and expected to roll them. A win won't impress anyone, but if we lose it'll be humiliating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2005 JJ Redick may not be head and shoulders above the rest of college basketball, but he is head and shoulders above Adam Morrison. All Morrison does is flail around to get cheap calls, and hit an occasional shot. JJ Redick is the best scorer in the country. He's not just a pure shooter anymore either. He drives to the basket, gets to the line, and plays solid defense too. He's never going to be an Allen Iverson type in the pros, but I think that as a #2 option, he'd be a tremendous asset to someone. Put him on the same team as LeBron, and you'll have an offensive team that will wreak havoc for years to come. Really, I don't think there is a better college basketball player than JJ Redick right now. I'm not saying his game doesn't have a couple weaknesses that could be exploited at the next level, but if there's someone better than him in the NCAA right now, I'd like to hear who. Morrison is averaging 30 points per game. I'm sure he does more than flail around and hit some shots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SilverPhoenix 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2005 Morrison only flails his arms around? What the hell? His Stats in this young season say otherwise PPG: 29.0 Personal fouls PG: 1.7 RPG: 6.0 BPG: 0.6 APG: 1.6 TOPG: 2.3 Going from these stats, he's a great scorer, a good rebound man, and can block on occasion. He wouldn't have these stats if he just did what you said. So that point is kinda moot. Now lets post JJ Redick's stats so that they both in everyone's faces PPG: 22.9 Personal Fouls PG: 1.5 RPG: 1.8 BPG: 0.0 APG: 2.4 TOPG: 2.4 Now let this be know, this doesn't make Morrison a better player. But it does make it comparable. Just by the stats, and not a cocksucking affair like you have it to be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted December 11, 2005 (edited) Let's look at some relevant stats (through today's games): *Adjusted FGM= FGM + 3PM * 0.5 *Points per possesion = Pts/(FGA + FTA * 0.5) Adam Morrison Total points: 228 Adjusted FGM: 91 Total FGA: 157 Total FTM: 47 Total FTA: 61 Points per possession: 1.216 JJ Redick Total points: 224 Adjusted FGM: 88 Total FGA: 147 Total FTM: 48 Total FTA: 54 Points per possession: 1.287 Furthermore, JJ Redick's stats have been amassed against much better defensive teams. Seton Hall, Memphis, Virginia Tech, Indiana, and Texas are all tremendous defensive teams, who have been consistently shutting down opponents all year long. Meanwhile, the only tough defensive team that Gonzaga's run into all year is Connecticut, and they held Morrison to 18 points on 8 of 19 shooting. Granted, this just proves that Redick's a better scorer than Morrison, not a better all-around player. Morrison does have a rebounding edge, although this may be more due to his teammates than anything else. If Shelden Williams played for Gonzaga, I'm pretty sure that Morrison would be grabbing a lot less boards. Also, Redick's a tremendous defensive player, whereas Morrison's pretty piss-poor on the defensive end. The bottom line is that Morrison's been throwing up most of the shots for Gonzaga this year against medicore (defensive) competition, and therefore has a lot of points. However, Redick's a much better shooter, a much better scorer, and a much better all-around basketball player. If Morrison was in Redick's position, playing on a loaded Duke team against tough defensive teams night in and night out, he'd be lucky to average 15 points a game, assuming that Coach K didn't bench him for his shitty D. Edited December 11, 2005 by iggymcfly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Leelee Report post Posted December 11, 2005 Oh, ok. Does WSU hate Gonzaga for some reason? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted December 11, 2005 It's a local rivalry. That probably has a lot to do with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted December 11, 2005 I'll put it this way, Iggy. Without Redick I think Duke could have Sheldon Williams carry them and maybe give some more shots to Melchionni or Paulus, or whoever. Without Morrison Gonzaga couldn't win A GAME. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alro 0 Report post Posted December 11, 2005 Kentucky couldn't hit the ocean today. Nobody looked like they wanted to be there. Welcome back Ten-loss Tubby. I'm picking Louisville next weekend. There is no reason for the Cards not to win by at least 20, even at Rupp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustJoe2k5 0 Report post Posted December 11, 2005 Never mind the fact that the past 2 tournaments, he's come up extremely short in the games that Duke has been eliminated (UConn in 2004, Michigan State in 2005). If he's the so-called "best player in the country", he should be rising to the occasion, not shrinking from it. He did just put up 41 points against the #2 team in the nation, in a game which most people thought would show just how overrated Duke was. And Duke as a team has come up short the past two years. It isn't like they lost on a missed shot by J.J. Redick, the entire team brought Duke down. And Coach K probably wouldn't let Adam Morrison onto the court until he shaved off that 'stache. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therealworldschampion 0 Report post Posted December 11, 2005 Never mind the fact that the past 2 tournaments, he's come up extremely short in the games that Duke has been eliminated (UConn in 2004, Michigan State in 2005). If he's the so-called "best player in the country", he should be rising to the occasion, not shrinking from it. He did just put up 41 points against the #2 team in the nation, in a game which most people thought would show just how overrated Duke was. And Duke as a team has come up short the past two years. It isn't like they lost on a missed shot by J.J. Redick, the entire team brought Duke down. And Coach K probably wouldn't let Adam Morrison onto the court until he shaved off that 'stache. J.J. contributed a lot to those 2 losses by shooting like absolute crap against tough defenses. I thought Duke would beat Texas because I didn't think Texas was too deserving of that #2 ranking. Weren't they a first round elimination last year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted December 11, 2005 (edited) Texas was never the same last year after PJ Tucker got suspended for the second half of the season. They were a legitimate Top 10 team before that. Even after the bad loss to Duke, I think that the Longhorns will probably still end up with something like a 2 seed by the end of the season. I think they're about like Wake Forest was last year in that they're a solid team that got destroyed by a juggernaut. Edited December 11, 2005 by iggymcfly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted December 11, 2005 Duke is hardly a juggernaut. They are a 2 man team with no other real options outside of Redick and Williams. Illinois last year had Brown, Williams, and Head who were all threats, Powell was a threat to go off from time to time, and even Augustine had some moments. Yeah, they killed Texas but therealworld said Texas was a fraud at #2 (the only other time I saw them was vs. WVU, who flat out gave them the game). Regardless of what Duke did to Texas they did just barely beat Va Tech on a hail mary at the buzzer. Thing is, I really haven't seen anyone better. I'm not 100% sold on UConn yet, Villanova has excellent guards but I think Sheldon Williams would kill them inside. Memphis might be able to beat them in a rematch, but that's looking way ahead. Gee, I guess it's up to U of L to take down the evil Duke! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted December 11, 2005 Wow OU still can't shoot against Coppin State! They only score 57! They won but still god damn. What would the score of a UK/OU game be? 40-38? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Leelee Report post Posted December 11, 2005 It's a local rivalry. That probably has a lot to do with it. Not really. I don't think they started playing until Gonzaga became a top team. And then Gonzaga just beats them every year, because WSU like sucks every year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Leelee Report post Posted December 11, 2005 Thing is, I really haven't seen anyone better. I'm not 100% sold on UConn yet, Villanova has excellent guards but I think Sheldon Williams would kill them inside. Memphis might be able to beat them in a rematch, but that's looking way ahead. I doubt Sheldon would. He's not really an offensive machine. His big attribute is blocks. Plus, Nova has 4 bodies they can put in there to collect fouls. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted December 11, 2005 I think UConn will really step up when Williams comes back. Austrie has been really terrible latley, Calhoun even benched him aginst UMass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
