Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted March 19, 2006 there's a lot more to being a top caliber receiver than explosive speed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted March 19, 2006 there's a lot more to being a top caliber receiver than explosive speed. Which Santana Moss has, you douchebag. He has AWESOME hands, and has made amazing catches that shouldn't have been caught. And explosive speed is an VERY important key to be a top caliber WR. So go fuck yourself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted March 19, 2006 stop getting pissy with TO for ruining your team, twerp. McNabb is as big a bitch as he was in all of that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted March 19, 2006 there's a lot more to being a top caliber receiver than explosive speed. Which Santana Moss has, you douchebag. He has AWESOME hands, and has made amazing catches that shouldn't have been caught. And explosive speed is an VERY important key to be a top caliber WR. So go fuck yourself. do you read...you must be able to, you can type...somewhat...I said there's more to it than just speed...Owens doesn't need to rely on that speed to be one of the top receivers in the league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted March 19, 2006 stop getting pissy with TO for ruining your team, twerp. He didn't ruin my team, we made it without him and we could still make it without him. Now that we don't have to deal with the everyday circus of the Terrell Owens show, we can get back to our winning ways. We finished the season 8-8, with McNabb and Westbrook injured, and TO gone. With McNabb and Westbrook coming back, the emergence of both rookies Reggie Brown and Ryan Moats and a few decent signings we can get back to our winning way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted March 19, 2006 there's a lot more to being a top caliber receiver than explosive speed. Which Santana Moss has, you douchebag. He has AWESOME hands, and has made amazing catches that shouldn't have been caught. And explosive speed is an VERY important key to be a top caliber WR. So go fuck yourself. do you read...you must be able to, you can type...somewhat...I said there's more to it than just speed...Owens doesn't need to rely on that speed to be one of the top receivers in the league/ But I'm not saying Terrell Owens is a crappy WR, all I'm saying is I'd perfer Santana Moss over him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted March 19, 2006 Can I just get some clarification on how McNabb was a "drama queen" and "as big a bitch as TO was"? He kept his mouth shut and took his shots for a year and a half before finally flipping out a bit over this most recent SB week. Hell, he was TO's biggest cheeleader until Owens turned on him. Are these statements the next step in going after Porter's award: "Officer please don't arrest him, it was all her fault for getting him angry" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Special K 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2006 I'd rather have Santana Moss on my team, too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2006 Me too. I miss Santana Moss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UZI Suicide 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2006 there's a lot more to being a top caliber receiver than explosive speed. Which Santana Moss has, you douchebag. He has AWESOME hands, and has made amazing catches that shouldn't have been caught. And explosive speed is an VERY important key to be a top caliber WR. So go fuck yourself. do you read...you must be able to, you can type...somewhat...I said there's more to it than just speed...Owens doesn't need to rely on that speed to be one of the top receivers in the league. And besides, Owens is really fast anyway. Not as fast as Moss, but he's still one of the faster receivers in the NFL. His age doesn't matter to me because the dude keeps himself in pristine physical condition. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted March 20, 2006 I like how the guy says that Moss has outstanding hands and great speed while trying to say that Moss is better, while ignoring that T.O. has the same strengths. An Owens that plays is better than any other receiver in the league, in my eyes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Princess Leena Report post Posted March 20, 2006 Is there any chance Dallas could get Keyshawn back. I don't see any teams coming close to giving him what he wants. Daily reports would be the coolest, if this happens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2006 Owens isn't the fastest when it comes to a 40 yard dash, but in game speed he is explosive enough that he will get three steps on a DB before they react and he is fast enough to not be caught after that. He will, on occasion, get either a case of the drops or a case of alligator arms (some of his drops look a little iffy every once in a while). With that said, anyone who doesn't think when between the lines that he is the best WR in the league at this point is nuts. All factors considered I would rather have Moss, but trying to say moss is a better WR is a reach. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2006 I like how the guy says that Moss has outstanding hands and great speed while trying to say that Moss is better, while ignoring that T.O. has the same strengths. An Owens that plays is better than any other receiver in the league, in my eyes. Amen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2006 I like how the guy says that Moss has outstanding hands and great speed while trying to say that Moss is better, while ignoring that T.O. has the same strengths. I'm not ignoring TO's strengths, I'm saying Moss is faster and has better hands than TO. I've seen Owens dropped many balls that should of been catches, while I rarely see Moss do that. Terrell is a great talent, but he was at his best IMO when he was playing for the 49er's, because he was less ignorant and didn't need to be the center of attention. He was a much faster WR and had better hands then also. Infact right now I have a hard time placing Terrell in my Top 5 WR's going into this season. Despite you guys may think, TO is human, infact go watch the 1st Monday Night game of last year when DeAngelo Hall competely shut him down, and when he made very bad dropped balls. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2006 Is there any chance Dallas could get Keyshawn back. I don't see any teams coming close to giving him what he wants. Daily reports would be the coolest, if this happens. I can honestly see Keyshawn going to Seattle, because of the departure of Joe Jurivisous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2006 This thread... or the last two pages of it makes Baby Jesus... and Mama McNabb cry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2006 This thread... or the last two pages of it makes Baby Jesus... and Mama McNabb cry. LOL what do you except, I've never seen a football player(Owens) draw this much media and fan attention since Lawerence Taylor's crack days, and even then he didn't run his mouth as much as TO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted March 20, 2006 I'm not ignoring TO's strengths, I'm saying Moss is faster and has better hands than TO. Moss is faster, but T.O. has better hands. Infact right now I have a hard time placing Terrell in my Top 5 WR's going into this season. Despite you guys may think, TO is human, infact go watch the 1st Monday Night game of last year when DeAngelo Hall competely shut him down, and when he made very bad dropped balls. My top 5 is: 1. T.O. (when he plays) 2. Chad Johnson 3. Torry Holt 4. Steve Smith 5. Santana Moss I realize I left Randy Moss off this list, and I do not care. Torry Holt gets no credit from anybody anymore, and Hines Ward is probably 6th. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2006 I'm not ignoring TO's strengths, I'm saying Moss is faster and has better hands than TO. Moss is faster, but T.O. has better hands. Infact right now I have a hard time placing Terrell in my Top 5 WR's going into this season. Despite you guys may think, TO is human, infact go watch the 1st Monday Night game of last year when DeAngelo Hall competely shut him down, and when he made very bad dropped balls. My top 5 is: 1. T.O. (when he plays) 2. Chad Johnson 3. Torry Holt 4. Steve Smith 5. Santana Moss I realize I left Randy Moss off this list, and I do not care. Hines Ward is probably 6th. Owens use to have better hands, but now he's just settling on his brute strength instead of his actual skill. Which problay has to be because of his age. You also left off Marvin Harrison. My Top 5 coming into this season would be... 1. Steve Smith 2. Marvin Harrison 3. Chad Johnson 4. Randy Moss 5. Santana Moss I feel bad putting Torry Holt(who I can could be the #1 WR, and still has his best years to come), and Hines Ward(The best overall WR), but what can you do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4hartthreat 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2006 No love for Marvin Harrison? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2006 Terrell Owens IS a top 5 WR, but he is not worth the risk anymore IMO. He is over 30, missed almost a year of football and is a notorious locker room cancer. As things stand at the moment: 1. T.O. (when he plays) 2. Randy Moss (when he got his head out of his ass) 3. Chad Johnson 4. Torry Holt 5. Steve Smith Sorry I do not buy Santana Moss yet. Try again next year if he puts on the same numbers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted March 20, 2006 No love for Marvin Harrison? Nope, not anymore. I like Reggie Wayne better than him. They're both in my top 10. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2006 Sorry I do not buy Santana Moss yet. Try again next year if he puts on the same numbers. Look at his 2 years with the Jets after Coles left, he was pretty much the only recieving talent for Pennington. Santana is for real. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4hartthreat 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2006 My top 5 are: 1. Steve Smith 2. Marvin Harrison 3. Chad Johnson 4. T.O. 5. Randy Moss Owens and Moss would both be higher if they weren't constant distractions to their respective teams, but even with that they are still unquestionably two of the best wideouts in the league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vampiro69 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2006 No love for Marvin Harrison? Nope, not anymore. I like Reggie Wayne better than him. They're both in my top 10. In your top 10 do you have Larry Fitzgerald or Anquan Boldin? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2006 Sorry I do not buy Santana Moss yet. Try again next year if he puts on the same numbers. Look at his 2 years with the Jets after Coles left, he was pretty much the only recieving talent for Pennington. Santana is for real. Ok sure I will. 2003: 16 Games/12 starts he had 74 catches for 1105 yards, 10 TDs 2004: 15 games/14 starts he had 45 catches for 838 yards, 5 TDs Doesn't sound like someone I'd buy just yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted March 20, 2006 6. Hines Ward 7. Reggie Wayne 8. Marvin Harrison 9. Randy Moss 10. Anquan Boldin 11. Larry Fitzgerald 12. Chris Chambers 13. Antonio Gates 14. Javon Walker (Yes, I know he didn't play last year) 15. Tony Gonzalez So, yeah. I still feel like I'm forgetting someone, and not Jerry Porter, because he's on the fringe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2006 Owens and Moss would both be higher if they weren't constant distractions to their respective teams, but even with that they are still unquestionably two of the best wideouts in the league. Don't group Moss in with Owens, Moss doesn't quit, whine, and bash his QB when times are rough. Moss didn't bash Kerry Collins of all QB's, even though he was a main reason why the Raiders were losing. Moss would problay give his left nut to play with the quality of QB like McNabb and wouldn't complain if they lost a game. The whole TO/McNabb drama really started in Week 7 of 2004 againest the Steelers when we got destroyed, Owens blamed everything on McNabb, and McNabb just ignored it and carried on winning while TO got injured. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted March 20, 2006 Terrell Owens IS a top 5 WR, but he is not worth the risk anymore IMO. He is over 30, missed almost a year of football and is a notorious locker room cancer. Thank you! I agree with you on what you said there, BUT I doubt he's a top 5 WR anymore. My top 5 receivers: 1. Randy Moss 2. Steve Smith 3. Marvin Harrison 4. Chad Johnson 5. Torry Holt It was pretty difficult to put that in order, actually. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites