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Gotta love Matt Hardy getting into the MITB after a Dusty Finish DQ win over Animal. At least I read that somewhere, not sure if it was on those spoilers but it was on Meltzer.

 

Lashley will still find his way into the MITB somehow. Maybe in another qualifier next week or at SNME, I dunno. Or gee, maybe Teddy can help a brother out and just add him a la Rey.

 

Let's take a look at these MITB participants and how they got into it:

 

Flair: Beat Carlito with a hand on the ropes. A slightly dirty win.

Shelton: Beat Chavo with an Orton run in. Very dirty win.

Finlay: Hit Lashley win his club. Dirty win.

Hardy: Dusty Finish DQ win over Animal.

Lashley: If he gets in, it'll be after he already lost and will seem like a filler choice.

RVD: Beat Trevor Murdock clean in the middle of the ring.

 

Thus, RVD is the guy I think should win it.

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Carlito would have been the perfect "bump man" for that match...they could have easily did a Flair/Masters teacher/student angle awhile back leading up to them winning the tag titles together at Mania rather than having Flair dick around with HHH and the IC title. Masters eventually turning on Flair would have done so much better for Masters than HHH turning on Flair did for HHH...gee didn't see THAT one coming.

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Didnt London get screwed by a Chavo injury last year right before Mania? Awful luck.

 

That was the story back then IIRC. Now he's #1 contender for the Cruiser Title but Gregory Helms supposedly requires surgery on his broken nose which should sideline him for at least 4 weeks, so I'm at a loss as to what they have planned. Personally I was hoping for a Cruiser Title defense at Mania for Helms, or at the very least the Sunday Night Heat before Mania. London vs Helms sounds promising, but seems in serious doubt. Hopefully they'll still go for it.

 

Indirectly this also seems to somewhat affect the WWE Tag Title picture for WM22, as London/Kendrik - along with the Mexicools - were the only reasonable choices to face MNM at Mania. It would be a shame if MNM weren't to be showcased at the big show, as they've been very visible champs on SD!, doing far more than what Kane/Show are, yet they don't have a Mania spot like the hosses do.

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a "tag team" turmoil type match with the Mexicools, MNM and London/Kendrick would have been a great WM kind of match...silly bookers.

The gimmick match that they throw on to Armageddon when they want to give the jobbers air time featuring four jobbers is a "great WM kind of match"?

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a "tag team" turmoil type match with the Mexicools, MNM and London/Kendrick would have been a great WM kind of match...silly bookers.

The gimmick match that they throw on to Armageddon when they want to give the jobbers air time featuring four jobbers is a "great WM kind of match"?

 

well if they would have been booking worth a shit the past 6 months, yeah it would have been good...rather than hotshotting the tag titles between MNM and uppercard ME guys, they should have been getting the Mexicools and London/Kendrick into that mix...it wouldn't hurt to make that a non-preshow opening match. hence why I said silly bookers.

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a "tag team" turmoil type match with the Mexicools, MNM and London/Kendrick would have been a great WM kind of match...silly bookers.

The gimmick match that they throw on to Armageddon when they want to give the jobbers air time featuring four jobbers is a "great WM kind of match"?

 

it wouldn't hurt to make that a non-preshow opening match. hence why I said silly bookers.

Yeah it would. No one cares. Give the time to the ladder match or Benoit and Bradshaw and let MNM have a segment later.

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well...less Austin/Piper and Hogan/Hassad segments and more match time...it just seems silly to me when your biggest show of the year doesn't feature every title on the line...now things could change between now and then, and all of this won't mean squat, but is it really THAT hard to book something sensible for your tag champs? Even your IC champion?

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well if they would have been booking worth a shit the past 6 months, yeah it would have been good...rather than hotshotting the tag titles between MNM and uppercard ME guys, they should have been getting the Mexicools and London/Kendrick into that mix...it wouldn't hurt to make that a non-preshow opening match. hence why I said silly bookers.

 

As I mentioned in another thread, I certainly wouldn't mind that type of tag match or a triple threat, as long as MNM got to face any of those teams or a combo at WM22. They deserve to be there, as they've been having good/great matches with each other for a while on house shows and on TV.

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What the hell is all this talk about tag titles being defended at WrestleMania? Frankly I was surprised they booked a defense for the world tag titles. A WWE tag title defense is something I don't see happening.

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What the hell is all this talk about tag titles being defended at WrestleMania? Frankly I was surprised they booked a defense for the world tag titles. A WWE tag title defense is something I don't see happening.

 

true...but, in a perfect world, you would think the heavier used SD titles would have gotten the duke over the long forgotten Raw titles...Vince just HAD to figure out a way to get his Hosses in there somehow.

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well...less Austin/Piper and Hogan/Hassad segments and more match time...it just seems silly to me when your biggest show of the year doesn't feature every title on the line.

I disagree. This is Wrestlemania. The idea that you need to get every title and everyone in the company on the show REALLY bogged down WM 20 when they had the pointless million man tag matches (Because Jindrak, Cade, The Bashams and both tag titles needed to be on the show) and the cruiserweight match with 8 million people. Mania 18 had every belt and seemingly everyone in the company on the show and felt like a Raw. And then there's the Wrestlemania 2000 debacle. Wrestlemania should be the top show of the year, and it only hurts it when you shoehorn heatless matches in to get everything on the show.

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For a while over the summer, SDown had a pretty good tag division, with Nunzio/Vito, Mexicools, Regal/Birchall, Animal/Heidenrich, The Dicks (as jobbers), London/Kendrick (as jobbers), and then of course MNM.

 

Would love to see a 4-Team Elimination (not a 4-team corner's like at WM20 with 4 bad teams), with Kendrick/London, Nunzio/Vito, Mexicools, and MNM.

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well...less Austin/Piper and Hogan/Hassad segments and more match time...it just seems silly to me when your biggest show of the year doesn't feature every title on the line.

I disagree. This is Wrestlemania. The idea that you need to get every title and everyone in the company on the show REALLY bogged down WM 20 when they had the pointless million man tag matches (Because Jindrak, Cade, The Bashams and both tag titles needed to be on the show) and the cruiserweight match with 8 million people. Mania 18 had every belt and seemingly everyone in the company on the show and felt like a Raw. And then there's the Wrestlemania 2000 debacle. Wrestlemania should be the top show of the year, and it only hurts it when you shoehorn heatless matches in to get everything on the show.

 

I totally see your point of view, don't get me wrong...it just all falls back on the booking...you have a year between WMs to book them, for god's sake figure SOMETHING decent out...I would enjoy a Mexicools/MNM match, personally...their non-title match on whatever SD PPV that was was pretty good.

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well...less Austin/Piper and Hogan/Hassad segments and more match time...it just seems silly to me when your biggest show of the year doesn't feature every title on the line.

I disagree. This is Wrestlemania. The idea that you need to get every title and everyone in the company on the show REALLY bogged down WM 20 when they had the pointless million man tag matches (Because Jindrak, Cade, The Bashams and both tag titles needed to be on the show) and the cruiserweight match with 8 million people. Mania 18 had every belt and seemingly everyone in the company on the show and felt like a Raw. And then there's the Wrestlemania 2000 debacle. Wrestlemania should be the top show of the year, and it only hurts it when you shoehorn heatless matches in to get everything on the show.

 

I agree that you shouldn't "shoehorn" matches at WrestleMania just for the sake of putting everything and everybody on the show. God knows I have no interest in watching Sylvian, Orlando Jordan, etc. on said show. But I do think that certain titleholders deserve to be featured on the show in the best possible matchup available to them, specially if they've been somewhat integral/important to their respective show, be it RAW or SD! Case in point: MNM. I may sound like a broken record by now, but they (well, Melina more than the actual champs) have been heavily featured on SD! while they've been champs, so it stands to figure that they deserve to be placed on WM22, certainly more than Kane/Show who've had sporadic (at best) title defenses with the largely-ignored World Tag belts. Problem is, MNM doesn't have a compelling feud (or a feud, period) going for them right now and I think that sucks with such a short way to go until Mania.

 

In the case of the Cruiser belt, I could make the argument that it's been featured quite nicely on the SD! brand with the "Helms vs everybody" storyline, in which he's been "forced" to defend the Title every week (well, almost) against all comers, so a WM Cruiser Title defense isn't completely out of the realm of probability.

 

And I take some exception to that "Wrestlemania 2000" debacle, as you call it. It seems I'm one of the few who liked the show. Then again, maybe I'm biased since it was my very first live Mania experience ever. :)

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well...less Austin/Piper and Hogan/Hassad segments and more match time...it just seems silly to me when your biggest show of the year doesn't feature every title on the line.

I disagree. This is Wrestlemania. The idea that you need to get every title and everyone in the company on the show REALLY bogged down WM 20 when they had the pointless million man tag matches (Because Jindrak, Cade, The Bashams and both tag titles needed to be on the show) and the cruiserweight match with 8 million people. Mania 18 had every belt and seemingly everyone in the company on the show and felt like a Raw. And then there's the Wrestlemania 2000 debacle. Wrestlemania should be the top show of the year, and it only hurts it when you shoehorn heatless matches in to get everything on the show.

 

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And I take some exception to that "Wrestlemania 2000" debacle, as you call it. It seems I'm one of the few who liked the show. Then again, maybe I'm biased since it was my very first live Mania experience ever. :)

Its not so much that the show was bad, ist that there was so much going on with so many people that to this day I still cant remember every match.

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If they are smart, they don't actually sign Test to a contract. That way he isn't forced to take any tests and it's not like they would put him in a significant role...would they?

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I cant see them actually signing Test to a contract based on how critical he was about the entire company in the past year or so (esp. with the Guererro stuff and, ironically enough, about drug problems within the company or something to that effect) and plus the guy is so clearly on the juice its not even funny.

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Good Lord! What happened to Test? It looks like he tried to stick an air hose in his arms to inflate himself and forgot to pull the hose out. That is just sick.

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It's good to see London getting the push he deserves. I've been a fan of him since he broke into WWE (I'm pissed you can't play him in SDvRAW for story mode!). I just wish I could see more of him and Kendrick WINNING matches, because they work so well as a tag-team, and they have those quick, huge cruiserweight moves that make the crowd gasp and go "whoa! Holy crap!"

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Saw Smackdown tonight.

 

Lashley vs Finlay was fun. What I really noticed tonight in this bout was that Lashley has "it". A lot of that "it" might be due to his freakish muscle but that doesn't deter the fact that the crowds are responding to him.

 

I really like watching wrestlers that want it and who are truly hungry to be the very best they can be. If I see that in someone I usaully take a liking to them. Lashley has got that thing that can not be taught -- The eye of the tiger. If he can continue to improve his game it'll only be a matter of time before everyone's marking out over him.

 

I can not believe how big Vinnie Mac's ego is. I think it reached new heights tonight and he wasn't even on the show.

 

Watching the whole show tonight made me appreciate Benoit even more -- He's still stands out as the most impressive wrestler on the roster. Benoit vs Jordan is a good match.

 

Most of the show seemed kind of blah tonight.

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I can not believe how big Vinnie Mac's ego is. I think it reached new heights tonight and he wasn't even on the show.

What makes you say that?

 

Watch the Melina segment with her tag champions backstage. Melina has to take the rescent Muscle and Fitness magazine and masturbate to it. I'm not making this up.

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I can not believe how big Vinnie Mac's ego is. I think it reached new heights tonight and he wasn't even on the show.

What makes you say that?

 

Watch the Melina segment with her tag champions backstage. Melina has to take the rescent Muscle and Fitness magazine and masturbate to it. I'm not making this up.

Wow. Out. of. control.

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I can not believe how big Vinnie Mac's ego is. I think it reached new heights tonight and he wasn't even on the show.

What makes you say that?

 

Watch the Melina segment with her tag champions backstage. Melina has to take the rescent Muscle and Fitness magazine and masturbate to it. I'm not making this up.

Wow. Out. of. control.

 

Are you being serious or sarcastic?

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