C Dubya 04 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2006 If you guys want to read a book that might help you with the ladies, try Neil Strauss' The Game. Some helpful tips in there, bro. But, you probably have no interest in being a ladies' man, do you? I want to read the Love Shy book out of curiosity and an intellectual sake since it's something I live through. If "The Game" is available online for free (because I am BROKE) than I might give that a glimpse too. Is it basically a confidence will win you ladies type of book? Personally speaking, of course I have interest in being a ladies' man. I have an extreme interest in it. It's just that I've got to fight my love shyness all the time. I don't think anyone here has any type of clue on how amazingly difficult that actually is. You have to fight your love shyness all the time??? You are self diagnosising yourself with a term from a book that has been out of print for 20 years that you haven't even bothered to read. That's awesome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 31, 2006 He's not even real, we should all just ignore him and let the gimmick die. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Princess Leena Report post Posted May 31, 2006 What the fuck happened here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2006 I think WP has taken the thread over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naiwf 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2006 plz. I lift three or four times a week, got to school,work and have a social life. Hey...how many hours a day are you watching TV or surfing the net, naiwf? I'm kinda drunk but I think this makes sense if you read it a couple of times. I don't lift weights because I find it to be the most boring thing I could possibly be doing with my time. Why sit there and move weight plates around when I can play a sport, go run, or do something that is actually fun just so I can have more muscle mass? It's not that serious for me. Perhaps I worded it too strongly, but I'm talking about the kind of guys who spend 3 or 4 hours a day in the gym, and nearly as much time flexing in front of a mirror. I don't spend that much time doing anything that I'm not getting paid for/getting enjoyment out of. I didn't necessarily mean guys who lift for 30 minutes here and there, I'm talking about guys who define themselves by their body fat percentage, or how many reps they can do at a certain exercise. If you took what I said to be an attack on you as individuals I didn't mean it that way, unless of course you are WP who IS a loser. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricMM 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2006 Activity is better for balancing muscles as well, unless you're doing Yoga as well. Just building the core muscles is fine for lifting ... weights. LIVING is good for getting stronger at life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest StylesMark Report post Posted May 31, 2006 This is the worst shit I have ever read....and I've posted some real crap before. Both of you, Marvin & WP....just cut your dicks off and bleed to death. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricMM 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2006 Marvin would probably get serious attention as a bottom. It...Could...Work~!~!~! [/young frankenstein] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted May 31, 2006 plz. I lift three or four times a week, got to school,work and have a social life. Hey...how many hours a day are you watching TV or surfing the net, naiwf? I'm kinda drunk but I think this makes sense if you read it a couple of times. I don't lift weights because I find it to be the most boring thing I could possibly be doing with my time. If you took what I said to be an attack on you as individuals I didn't mean it that way, unless of course you are WP who IS a loser. Than you don't train train correctly, hard or use the proper mental concentration that you're supposed to. Let me train you and I guarantee that you won't find it boring. I think WP has taken the thread over. There is a ton of stuff that I comment on here but I realise in doing so I will be taking the thread over more and more. I'm going to try to make an effort here and stay a little low so Marvin can direct the thread in whatever way he wants to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2006 Holy fuck, anyone who has hit that shy part in their lifes know's that most of the time know's it's when you worry too much about all these things that are going to fuck up... when in reality the shit won't hit the fans as dramatically as you're thinking. Truth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk 34 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2006 This went from a pathetic display from Marvin and WP...to a display of desperation and crammed with worthless self justification. You don't need a book to explain or justify your inability to function properly. Life isn't hard but WP and Marvin are doing their best to make it more difficult then it should be. Actually, it's only Marvin. WP is 100% gimmick. I can't tell which is more pathetic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk 34 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2006 This went from a pathetic display from Marvin and WP...to a display of desperation and crammed with worthless self justification. You don't need a book to explain or justify your inability to function properly. Life isn't hard but WP and Marvin are doing their best to make it more difficult then it should be. Actually, it's only Marvin. WP is 100% gimmick. I can't tell which is more pathetic. edit: double post for emphasis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 31, 2006 Holy fuck, anyone who has hit that shy part in their lifes know's that most of the time know's it's when you worry too much about all these things that are going to fuck up... when in reality the shit won't hit the fans as dramatically as you're thinking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk 34 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2006 But most people hit the nervous/shy part in their lives around 13-15 years old. They should never extend that into their mid and late 20's. I don't think I ever had that shy period, at least with girls. I was the loner type in team sports but that was mainly because I was in a certain zone for that and I never bothered to be social during it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 31, 2006 I had that problem until freshman year of high school. That's when it's supposed to stop, but apparently some people don't see that as a window of opportunity. I didn't talk to many people during football, but that's because I used to get in a zone. I never talked to people on gamedays. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Princess Leena Report post Posted May 31, 2006 I don't think it's so much that they're nervous or shy. At least in Marvin's case, he works and such, and I don't think he could do what he's doing by being a total social outcast. He just think he's hideous, and needs to realize that he's not so ugly that females won't like him. Which I will say is a lot easier said than done considering his condition. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk 34 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2006 You know, I wonder if WP and Marvin ever played sports. I have a theory working that people who don't perform on some level in their formulative years are tons more likely to be like WP and Marvin. I'm not saying football players won't have problems in social environments but the nature of sports, acting or some sort of academic based competiton propel you into social situations where you would almost always need to be productive in those skills to succeed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2006 I was socially awkward until like two years ago or so, like 17, and some people will be at that stage a lot older, like Marvin and WP. If you keep thinking you're too old to be that way, you'll never get out of that rut, it's never too late to start. Agreed about athletics and drama helping out your social development. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2006 You know, I wonder if WP and Marvin ever played sports. I have a theory working that people who don't perform on some level in their formulative years are tons more likely to be like WP and Marvin. I'm not saying football players won't have problems in social environments but the nature of sports, acting or some sort of academic based competiton propel you into social situations where you would almost always need to be productive in those skills to succeed. I never took phys ed at any level of school..I had a medical exemption for a heart condition that I was born with which required 2 open heart surgeries to fix before I turned 7. I've been told I was lucky to be alive as it is because if it had not been for getting sent to Johns Hopkins, I probably wouldn't have lived to see my first birthday because the hospital here at the time was full of a bunch of incompetent idiots that missed the fact that I had a leak in one of the valves in my heart. That might explain some things, as I was pretty much couped up in the childrens section of John Hopkins Hospital for the first 7 years of my life off and on. I've still got the nasty scar down the middle of my chest..which sucks cause these days they only need to make a small little cut to do the same procedure. Oh, and Its highly possible that I could at any time rehave the leaky valve and it would probably kill me before I knew I had it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2006 The big scar is cool actually. Just get a tan, wear an eye patch and learn some tiger fireballs so that you can be like Sagat. I've gotta scar above my right eye that's very noticeable, especially when I have short hair, not really a problem. In fact, when I cut my hair from really long lengths, most girls gave me more attention since even though the scar was more visible, I didn't look like a tool as I did with long hair. Take a step back and look at it like we do. You had an amazing surgery that caused you to live your life rather than die before you could walk, and you're bitching about the scar you got? Don't you see how ridiculous that is? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2006 Marvin, for what it's worth I think you're an alright dude. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk 34 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2006 Scars are gold. Especially ones with a good story (such as beating the odds against death's chilled hand or fighting off a gang of pirates). Work it. Cut some fat, expose the scar consistantly. Sell yourself as a cancer victim as well since it'd work with the lack of hair. If you can't get it done yourself, let pity do the dirty work. Sadly, my only scars are behind my left ear and one on my throat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted June 1, 2006 This went from a pathetic display from Marvin and WP...to a display of desperation and crammed with worthless self justification. You don't need a book to explain or justify your inability to function properly. Life isn't hard but WP and Marvin are doing their best to make it more difficult then it should be. Actually, it's only Marvin. WP is 100% gimmick. I can't tell which is more pathetic. I try to stay out for awhile and everyone drags me right back in. If you think I'm 100% gimmick than I at least want to know why? In my defence, please explain the Astroboy thread. Do you actually think my love for Astroboy is kayfabed? It didn't form on its own through a magical tooth fairy wand or somthing. Scars are gold. Especially ones with a good story (such as beating the odds against death's chilled hand or fighting off a gang of pirates). Work it. Cut some fat, expose the scar consistantly. Sell yourself as a cancer victim as well since it'd work with the lack of hair. If you can't get it done yourself, let pity do the dirty work. Sadly, my only scars are behind my left ear and one on my throat. Awesome. I got some scars from about 16 years ago when I fell of a wagon on a dirt road but only one is clearly visible now. Still, it's a good one. Marvin, for what it's worth I think you're an alright dude. Ditto You know, I wonder if WP and Marvin ever played sports. I have a theory working that people who don't perform on some level in their formulative years are tons more likely to be like WP and Marvin. I'm not saying football players won't have problems in social environments but the nature of sports, acting or some sort of academic based competiton propel you into social situations where you would almost always need to be productive in those skills to succeed. I wreck your theory than. I played soccor almost every day during recess, dinner time and after school waiting for the bus (a LONG wait) from about Grade Primary to grade 6. I stopped than because unfortunately everyone else did. I also played soccor on organised teams, played on a baseball team and played baseball constantly after school for a good bit in junior high school in around grade 8. But most people hit the nervous/shy part in their lives around 13-15 years old. They should never extend that into their mid and late 20's. I don't think I ever had that shy period, at least with girls. I was the loner type in team sports but that was mainly because I was in a certain zone for that and I never bothered to be social during it. I've been extremely shy for my whole. Before I started elementary shool I had a period of where I didn't talk for over a whole year. I pretty much said nothing. When I was in the end of junior high there were times where people waved at me and I couldn't even wave back. I was even half paranoid that they were trying to ridicule me in some weird way by waving at me. I am better than I used to be and am definitely at my most unshyest (for lack of a better word) I've ever been during my whole life. That's because as of now I am fighting very hard against it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk 34 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2006 Why do I get the image of WP standing in the backyard kicking a ball against the garage door "playing soccer"? I'm going to regret asking this...but why are you in a wagon at age 16? Ya know what, forget I asked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted June 1, 2006 Why do I get the image of WP standing in the backyard kicking a ball against the garage door "playing soccer"? I'm going to regret asking this...but why are you in a wagon at age 16? Ya know what, forget I asked. I see you conviently avoided my Astroboy question by the way. I was on a wagon. Not in! You can't go in a wagon because a wagon is not an enclosed structure. Actually, I was 13 years old than. I had some bad luck that day. We were transporting square hay bales (round bales weren't quite the rage yet) and I had a load collapse underneath me which ended up with me getting squashed some and getting a bloody nose. Kind of embarassing because I had already considered myself a veteran hay bale packer despite being "rusty" after not doing it the year before. All right, back on track here. We had finished for the day so naturally we were on our way home. There were 4 of us with my father driving the tractor along with myself and 2 other workers. The wagon naturally was hooked up to the tractor. We had some real impressive speed going on for a tractor and as a result the wagon was going back and forth some on the road. Because I like to sit a certain way I was in the middle of the wagon and wasn't holding on to anything. Well, eventually I fell off and became road scum. The 2 buddies on the wagon hollored for father to stop the tractor and he did. Than once it was stopped they ran back and got me. I was already struggling to get on my feet and was squatting up to a full posistion but they told me to stay down. They than carried me back to the wagon where we than proceeded to go home. Once home, my sister started freaking out, my grandmother came over and than I went to Outpatients. I think my Mom took me. Besides bleeding and a lot of scars I was okay though. The scar on the oblique area is still very visible to this day. However, afterwards I was still okay but the funny thing was that I was constantly finding little pieces of my head (I had a lot of hair) and taking them out. They were like little rocks. That kind of freaked me some and as of today I do not have a smooth head anymore. There are these little bumps in it. In fact, I felt one up while typing this life story here. Another funny thing about this story is that I always daydreamed about me laying down on the road and one of school girl crushes would come around to discover me on the road. Than because of my condition said girl and I would have some conversation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk 34 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2006 I knew I would regret asking that question. I ignored the Astroboy thread because I won't ever go into such a idiotic thread. I spent enough time in this one as it were. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Ol' Smitty 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2006 I'm 23, have a girlfriend, have been pretty successful in life, am fairly active socially, I engage in talking/discussion a lot in my graduate classes, and I've even taught classes--but I still have trouble with shyness/social anxiety. Every once and again I even break out into a cold sweat when I have to engage in a conversation I am uncomfortable about. I would have a very difficult time approaching a girl in a bar if I was single, even though I am very confident in myself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted June 1, 2006 I knew I would regret asking that question. I ignored the Astroboy thread because I won't ever go into such a idiotic thread. I spent enough time in this one as it were. You should watch the 80s show even if you're against the Astroboy thread. The show is absolutely brilliant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk 34 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2006 I never mentioned this until now, but I can't do groups at all. I'm a master of intimate situations but when you got multiple people to work with once, I'm more reclusive. Which isn't good considering my job requires alot of group leadership yet I'm great at public speaking. I wouldn't know about going up to a girl at a bar, I've always gotten together with girls from normal situations (through another friend/family member, from school etc etc) where you can strike up a normal convo and not appear like a leech with lines and shit. However, I am sure that I would have no problems doing the traditional bar pick up routine. It's one thing to have a fear of crowds and public, but it's an whole other ballpark to lack confidence in speaking to someone head to head. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted June 1, 2006 Every once and again I even break out into a cold sweat when I have to engage in a conversation I am uncomfortable about. I get this problem when people that I respect start discussing politics with me. My God, there's no way to say the slightest thing that they don't agree with before a big argument ensues. I don't like being a part of a group either, but I can deal with them. I'm easily annoyed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites