Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2006 One thing I didnt add - it pretty much pisses me off that Nash is being brought back and then upon his return here, his first words are burying the whole X division? Isn't that why they let him go in the first place?!?!! Yes, it is. They weren't happy he strung them along with a promise he'd do the job to Sabin at the PPV, and then mysteriously had to pull out at literally the last minute. Whether Nash should have jobbed to Sabin or not, pulling that kind of stunt is beyond unprofessional, but it's typical behavior from Nash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BUTT 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2006 What a boner. Dude's 47 years old. I don't get why guys like Nash are so hung up on not losing fake rasslin' matches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedJed 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2006 One thing I didnt add - it pretty much pisses me off that Nash is being brought back and then upon his return here, his first words are burying the whole X division? Isn't that why they let him go in the first place?!?!! Yes, it is. They weren't happy he strung them along with a promise he'd do the job to Sabin at the PPV, and then mysteriously had to pull out at literally the last minute. Whether Nash should have jobbed to Sabin or not, pulling that kind of stunt is beyond unprofessional, but it's typical behavior from Nash. And yet the company takes him back and lets him continue to bury the division. That just takes the cake of TNA stupidity, ironically at the same time it seems like alot of things are coming together well leading to BFG. Surprised at the tapings that there was no mention of what the Duds are doing at the ppv? I know they were originally supposed to take on ICP, but they had an open challenge angle at the last taping that has seemingly gone nowhere now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacques 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2006 I think Nash's TNA record is 1-7. OMG WHAT AN ASSHOLE!!!111 I CAN'T BELIEVED HE POLITICKED THAT ONE LOSS!!!1 FUCK THAT LAZY BASTARD!!!!!!1111111 (Insert more internet dork cliches here) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedJed 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2006 I think Nash's TNA record is 1-7. OMG WHAT AN ASSHOLE!!!111 I CAN'T BELIEVED HE POLITICKED THAT ONE LOSS!!!1 FUCK THAT LAZY BASTARD!!!!!!1111111 (Insert more internet dork cliches here) It wasnt so much that he refused to lose, it was that he played a phony injury to do so. Plus add the fact that he walked all over the division in preparation for the Sabin job - the job he never did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2006 I think Nash's TNA record is 1-7. OMG WHAT AN ASSHOLE!!!111 I CAN'T BELIEVED HE POLITICKED THAT ONE LOSS!!!1 FUCK THAT LAZY BASTARD!!!!!!1111111 (Insert more internet dork cliches here) Now try to add something of value to the thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacques 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2006 I think Nash's TNA record is 1-7. OMG WHAT AN ASSHOLE!!!111 I CAN'T BELIEVED HE POLITICKED THAT ONE LOSS!!!1 FUCK THAT LAZY BASTARD!!!!!!1111111 (Insert more internet dork cliches here) Now try to add something of value to the thread. Will going on a mindless rant about how Nash is single-handedly killing the X-Division, TNA, WWE, and Professional Wrestling in general be considered a valuable post? If so, then I'll pass. It wasnt so much that he refused to lose, it was that he played a phony injury to do so. Plus add the fact that he walked all over the division in preparation for the Sabin job - the job he never did. What are you talking about? He always attacked from behind, he ran out of the ring when Chris Sabin came to fight him, he got a win over Sabin when he was clearly beat and Shelley interfered. And how are you so sure that it was a phony injury? Because Meltzer said so? As I said, if Nash is so worried about jobbing then why is he 1-7 in TNA? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2006 Small correction... Nash, this year, is actually 2-2. His two wins were Sabin and "Mr. X" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2006 And how are you so sure that it was a phony injury? Because Meltzer said so? As I said, if Nash is so worried about jobbing then why is he 1-7 in TNA? Meltzer never said it was phony. Nobody in TNA believed his excuse, beause he has a track record of finding ways to get out of matches he's booked to do the clean job in. Even those in TNA who defended Nash and the angle in the first place were angry with Nash and didn't even try to defend him on this one. It's not like, as you seem to want to believe, that people are making up reasons to hate on Nash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacques 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2006 Small correction... Nash, this year, is actually 2-2. His two wins were Sabin and "Mr. X" He also had a stint in the FSN era where he lost to everybody and anybody including Monty Brown and KIP JAMES. Seriously, this guy is one of the biggest names of the 90's and he jobs to those schmucks and people still have the audacity to call him selfish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedJed 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2006 Jacques - if you can't see that Nash was burying the division blatantly via the promos he cut on the guys and then the way they were used against him, give me a break. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedJed 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2006 Small correction... Nash, this year, is actually 2-2. His two wins were Sabin and "Mr. X" He also had a stint in the FSN era where he lost to everybody and anybody including Monty Brown and KIP JAMES. Seriously, this guy is one of the biggest names of the 90's and he jobs to those schmucks and people still have the audacity to call him selfish. Huh? He never worked a match against either as far as I recall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2006 Jacques - if you can't see that Nash was burying the division blatantly via the promos he cut on the guys and then the way they were used against him, give me a break. I don't think he wants to see that. Nash helped bury numerous wrestlers during his promotion killing reign in WCW and Jacques actually acts outraged over people calling Nash selfish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2006 Small correction... Nash, this year, is actually 2-2. His two wins were Sabin and "Mr. X" He also had a stint in the FSN era where he lost to everybody and anybody including Monty Brown and KIP JAMES. Seriously, this guy is one of the biggest names of the 90's and he jobs to those schmucks and people still have the audacity to call him selfish. Huh? He never worked a match against either as far as I recall. He didn't. But I don't think facts are that important to some people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedJed 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2006 Small correction... Nash, this year, is actually 2-2. His two wins were Sabin and "Mr. X" He also had a stint in the FSN era where he lost to everybody and anybody including Monty Brown and KIP JAMES. Seriously, this guy is one of the biggest names of the 90's and he jobs to those schmucks and people still have the audacity to call him selfish. Huh? He never worked a match against either as far as I recall. He didn't. But I don't think facts are that important to some people. The closest thing to any of that nonsense was that I recalled Nash publicly stating he'd love to put over Monte Brown, but never did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2006 For the record, Nash's first Impact match EVER was this past June. He never wrestled on Impact during the FSN era. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacques 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2006 March 13, 2005 - TNA Destination X: The Outlaw (Billy Gunn) defeated Kevin Nash in a Taped Fist First Blood match. January 16, 2005 - Final Resolution: Monty Brown beat Diamond Dallas Page & Kevin Nash in a 3WAY to become #1 Contender. From Obsessed with wrestling I don't think facts are that important to some people. Indeed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacques 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2006 Double Post Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedJed 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2006 March 13, 2005 - TNA Destination X: The Outlaw (Billy Gunn) defeated Kevin Nash in a Taped Fist First Blood match. January 16, 2005 - Final Resolution: Monty Brown beat Diamond Dallas Page & Kevin Nash in a 3WAY to become #1 Contender. From Obsessed with wrestling He lost a first blood match. Thats not putting over someone. The most he put someone over in TNA was Jarrett via actually laying down for him and jobbing outright, even though it was far from clean. Second match there you are referring to, Brown pinned Page, Nash wasnt laying down for shit there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacques 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2006 He did got tossed out anyway. That means he lost last time I checked. Also what about the Kip James one? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedJed 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2006 He did got tossed out anyway. That means he lost last time I checked. Also what about the Kip James one? How is getting tossed out of the ring putting a guy over??!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacques 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2006 March 13, 2005 - TNA Destination X: The Outlaw (Billy Gunn) defeated Kevin Nash in a Taped Fist First Blood match. January 16, 2005 - Final Resolution: Monty Brown beat Diamond Dallas Page & Kevin Nash in a 3WAY to become #1 Contender. From Obsessed with wrestling He lost a first blood match. Thats not putting over someone. The most he put someone over in TNA was Jarrett via actually laying down for him and jobbing outright, even though it was far from clean. Second match there you are referring to, Brown pinned Page, Nash wasnt laying down for shit there. BWAHAHAHAHA. Dude seriously, did the big lug stole your lunchmoney? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacques 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2006 So Undertaker didn't put Maven over when Maven eliminated him from the Royal Rumble? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedJed 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2006 March 13, 2005 - TNA Destination X: The Outlaw (Billy Gunn) defeated Kevin Nash in a Taped Fist First Blood match. January 16, 2005 - Final Resolution: Monty Brown beat Diamond Dallas Page & Kevin Nash in a 3WAY to become #1 Contender. From Obsessed with wrestling He lost a first blood match. Thats not putting over someone. The most he put someone over in TNA was Jarrett via actually laying down for him and jobbing outright, even though it was far from clean. Second match there you are referring to, Brown pinned Page, Nash wasnt laying down for shit there. BWAHAHAHAHA. Dude seriously, did the big lug stole your lunchmoney? You're not even making sense now. And you dont get it, "losing" a match via however you think is the criteria is NOT putting someone over. There is a clear difference. Giving Nash credit for getting tossed over the top rope instead of laying down shows how little you are getting this whole debate. And yes, Taker didnt put over Maven at Rumble. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacques 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2006 March 13, 2005 - TNA Destination X: The Outlaw (Billy Gunn) defeated Kevin Nash in a Taped Fist First Blood match. January 16, 2005 - Final Resolution: Monty Brown beat Diamond Dallas Page & Kevin Nash in a 3WAY to become #1 Contender. From Obsessed with wrestling He lost a first blood match. Thats not putting over someone. The most he put someone over in TNA was Jarrett via actually laying down for him and jobbing outright, even though it was far from clean. Second match there you are referring to, Brown pinned Page, Nash wasnt laying down for shit there. BWAHAHAHAHA. Dude seriously, did the big lug stole your lunchmoney? You're not even making sense now. And you dont get it, "losing" a match via however you think is the criteria is NOT putting someone over. There is a clear difference. Giving Nash credit for getting tossed over the top rope instead of laying down shows how little you are getting this whole debate. And yes, Taker didnt put over Maven at Rumble. So according to your logic even though Nash won the Sabin match he did put him over. Remember, he was thoroughly dominated throughout the match, was about to lose the match when Shelley interfered and cost Sabin the match. Didn't that put Sabin over? The message was that if Shelley wasn't there then Nash was the lesser man. It isn't Nash's problem that Sabin isn't over. That guy has the charisma of a toilet paper. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedJed 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2006 March 13, 2005 - TNA Destination X: The Outlaw (Billy Gunn) defeated Kevin Nash in a Taped Fist First Blood match. January 16, 2005 - Final Resolution: Monty Brown beat Diamond Dallas Page & Kevin Nash in a 3WAY to become #1 Contender. From Obsessed with wrestling He lost a first blood match. Thats not putting over someone. The most he put someone over in TNA was Jarrett via actually laying down for him and jobbing outright, even though it was far from clean. Second match there you are referring to, Brown pinned Page, Nash wasnt laying down for shit there. BWAHAHAHAHA. Dude seriously, did the big lug stole your lunchmoney? You're not even making sense now. And you dont get it, "losing" a match via however you think is the criteria is NOT putting someone over. There is a clear difference. Giving Nash credit for getting tossed over the top rope instead of laying down shows how little you are getting this whole debate. And yes, Taker didnt put over Maven at Rumble. So according to your logic even though Nash won the Sabin match he did put him over. Remember, he was thoroughly dominated throughout the match, was about to lose the match when Shelley interfered and cost Sabin the match. Didn't that put Sabin over? The message was that if Shelley wasn't there then Nash was the lesser man. It isn't Nash's problem that Sabin isn't over. That guy has the charisma of a toilet paper. According to my logic......you aren't making any sense. Let me put it to you this way, the only way Nash can put a guy over is by LOSING TO THEM CLEANLY VIA PINFALL OR SUBMITTING. And that may even be a stretch at this point since his offense and bumps are hardly believable and he's even done a clean job to a guy like Rey back in 99 WCW and we all saw how that turned out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gWIL 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2006 "Christian Cage defeated Norman Smiley. Smiley was back to the full "Screaming" Norman gimmick from WCW, wearing a football uniform. Cage puts a straightjacket on Smiley, which brings out Shark Boy. Cage lays him out and wraps a straightjacket on him. Rhino hits the ring and Cage exits. " Screamin' Norman! I <3 Russo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GODSON 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2006 It took Russo to see the potential in Smiley and Shark BOY? I think Shark Boy have potential to be one of the flagships of TNA and am being dead serious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scroby 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2006 Call me when they have a 2-hour TV show. Otherwise, not interested. That makes no sense at all. You would be more intrested if the show was two hours? That really makes no sense. It took Russo to see the potential in Smiley and Shark BOY? I think Shark Boy have potential to be one of the flagships of TNA and am being dead serious. Shark Boy is honestly one of the most talented guys on the roster. Why he was made into a jobber is way beyond me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingPK 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2006 Promo Videos doesn't make me want to buy a PPV - they just recap what's already happened that's far from enough IMO especially with it being almost ignored by two weeks of shows. UFC been doing pretty well with that. Apples and oranges. The UFC also doesn't have a weekly show to build up feuds with fresh content. Looks decent, but I can't stand Nash as well and who thought bringing Jake Roberts in was a good idea when he'll probably bail on them when his stash runs out again? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
