KingPK 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2006 Well......that sucked. Tracy Morgan had maybe two funny moments in the whole show, the rest he was just fucking annoying. Alec Baldwin is the best thing about the show so far. Studio 60 blows this completely out of the water. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2006 Didn't suck at all. I had some problems with the opening bit (allusion to Mary Tyler Moore- wtf?), and I thought it tailed off a bit at the end, but I enjoyed it. Baldwin was tremendous, and I loved the scenes with him and Tina. There were also some really good scenes (the scene at Alfredos and the strip club), and Jack McBrayer is going to be the breakout star if anyone watches this show. If the show is basically the three main characters bouncing off each other with Jack McBrayer popping in and out- it'll be fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2006 I was this close to going out and buying a Trivection Oven right now until I realized every place that might sell them is closed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2006 I was this close to going out and buying a Trivection Oven right now until I realized every place that might sell them is closed. OMG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scroby 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2006 I posted something about it in the comments that no warrent a thread, I'll just repeat it. 30 Rock is not funny, though John Lithow's new show is great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2006 Even if you didn't like the show overall, no one can hate on Alec Baldwin. He was perfect though John Lithow's new show is great. 20 Good Years was just John Lithgow overracting with an annoying laughtrack that roared at every line he delivered. I like Lithgow but he was too much. Awful show, won't last. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scroby 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2006 though John Lithow's new show is great. 20 Good Years was just John Lithgow overracting with an annoying laughtrack that roared at every line he delivered. I like Lithgow but he was too much. Awful show, won't last. It's funny that you say that, because I competely thought the same thing, just in reverse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2006 30 Rock doesn't have a laughtrack. My fear for 30 Rock is that Baldwin's not going to be the lead b/c of his movie committments. Tracy can't be the centrepiece of the show- that will be disaster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scroby 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2006 30 Rock doesn't have a laughtrack. My fear for 30 Rock is that Baldwin's not going to be the lead b/c of his movie committments. Tracy can't be the centrepiece of the show- that will be disaster. Oh I know, but I didn't laugh and I thought that 20 Good Years will stick around while 30 Rock goes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2006 I didn't hate 30 Rock and I didn't love it. I liked this first episode, but something about it felt off, which I guess is because it was the pilot and was too busy with setting up everything. I'll continue to watch, but I wouldn't say that I'm hooked already. I could easily see myself just not watching it anymore if it doesn't get better week after week here with the first few episodes. I hope I start to like it more though. I think it has potential, especially scenes with Alec Baldwin and all of the writers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2006 30 Rock doesn't have a laughtrack. My fear for 30 Rock is that Baldwin's not going to be the lead b/c of his movie committments. Tracy can't be the centrepiece of the show- that will be disaster. Oh I know, but I didn't laugh and I thought that 20 Good Years will stick around while 30 Rock goes. Agreed... with Scroby that is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2006 Who's going to watch 20 Good Years? At least Tina Fey and Alec Baldwin have a fanbase. Plus, it's up against the last half hour of Dancing with the Stars, which will hurt. Of course, Studio 60 is tanking and I'm always wrong about this stuff, so who knows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2006 I am planning on watching Twenty Good Years just because of Jeffrey Tambor. I'm downloading it now, so I can't say what I think of it. I do already know that I hate the laugh track though. I haven't been able to accept a show with a laugh track in years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2006 I don't think 20 Good Years is going to be around for too long either, but if I had to pick one to go down, I'd go with 30 Rock. I think you're overrating Tina Fey and Alec Baldwin's fanbases, and god knows Tracy Morgan has got none. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Felonies! Report post Posted October 12, 2006 Aren't 30 Rock and Studio 60 like the same show? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2006 It's the same premise, but both shows are totally different in terms of presentation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2006 People say it's like the ER/Scrubs deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Niggardly King 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2006 You guys don't know where the comedy is at this year... where is it you may ask? Help Me Help You Ted Danson and Tim Meadows >>>>>>Studio 60>>>>>>>>>>>30 Rock Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scroby 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2006 ....we need Civil War sigs for this debate of which show is sticking around and which isn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2006 30 Rock doesn't have a laughtrack. It didn't have one in my living room either. Seriously... I assume it will get better. This is the network that keeps the Office on afterall...someone around must know what funny is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2006 You guys don't know where the comedy is at this year... where is it you may ask? Help Me Help You Ted Danson and Tim Meadows >>>>>>Studio 60>>>>>>>>>>>30 Rock Wait a minute- theres someone else who watches Help Me Help You? If ever a show screamed "cancelled" it's that one. It's so low budget, I don't see how it got on the air. Danson's awesome though. I'm not saying 30 Rock was great, but I'm just so excited at seeing Alec Baldwin on my TV every week Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C Dubya 04 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2006 I like Alec Baldwin, but this one did nothing for me. Also, I thought 20 Good Years was crap. I don't think that either will make it into my schedule. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2006 At 8 p.m., ABC got a 12.3/19 from the "Dancing with the Stars" results show to easily win the hour. CBS' "Jericho" maintained the audience from its first three weeks and finished second. FOX was third with a 5.2/8 for baseball, just ahead of the premieres of NBC's endlessly promoted "30 Rock" (5.5/9) and "Twenty Good Years" (4.7/7). The NBC comedies did average more viewers than the Tigers-A's on FOX. The CW's "America's Next Top Model" was fifth with a 3.7/6. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2006 More on 30 Rock/20 Good Years- With three successful shows co-existing in the 8 p.m. hour (plus baseball in the mix on Fox), there was little room for the premieres of NBC’s highly touted 30 Rock and the largely panned 20 Good Years. 30 Rock kicked off with a modest 6.3/10 in the overnights (#4), 8.26 million viewers (#3) and a 2.9/ 9 among adults 18-49 (#3) at 8 p.m. That led into 20 Good Years at a not-so-good 5.7/ 9 in the overnights (#4), 6.97 million viewers (#4) and a 2.5/ 7 among adults 18-49 (#4t) at 8:30 p.m. Compared to year-ago failed occupant E-Ring (Overnights: #2t, 6.4/10; Viewers: #2, 8.56 million; A18-49: #4, 2.3/ 7 on Oct. 12, 2005) that was, on average, a decline of 6 percent in the overnights and 640,000 viewers, but an increase of 17 percent among adults 18-49 for the two comedies. Of note: The last time NBC opened the season with sitcoms in the Wednesday 8 p.m. hour was in 1997 with The Tony Danza Show and Built To Last, and both those shows were gone by December. 20 Good Years is not long for this earth, but I think increasing 17% from E-Ring is a positive sign. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2006 More on 30 Rock/20 Good Years- With three successful shows co-existing in the 8 p.m. hour (plus baseball in the mix on Fox), there was little room for the premieres of NBC’s highly touted 30 Rock and the largely panned 20 Good Years. 30 Rock kicked off with a modest 6.3/10 in the overnights (#4), 8.26 million viewers (#3) and a 2.9/ 9 among adults 18-49 (#3) at 8 p.m. That led into 20 Good Years at a not-so-good 5.7/ 9 in the overnights (#4), 6.97 million viewers (#4) and a 2.5/ 7 among adults 18-49 (#4t) at 8:30 p.m. Compared to year-ago failed occupant E-Ring (Overnights: #2t, 6.4/10; Viewers: #2, 8.56 million; A18-49: #4, 2.3/ 7 on Oct. 12, 2005) that was, on average, a decline of 6 percent in the overnights and 640,000 viewers, but an increase of 17 percent among adults 18-49 for the two comedies. Of note: The last time NBC opened the season with sitcoms in the Wednesday 8 p.m. hour was in 1997 with The Tony Danza Show and Built To Last, and both those shows were gone by December. 20 Good Years is not long for this earth, but I think increasing 17% from E-Ring is a positive sign. Guess not. Oh well maybe I was the one overrating Lithgow and Tambor's fanbases. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naiwf 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2006 I'll guess both shows dip a point next week (the overly hyped The Nine lost almost 2 points from its premiere last week to this one) and get the axe by January 1st. EDIT: Also, Help Me Help You is by far the best new comedy I've seen and has a cushy timeslot behind DWTS. It has maintained its audience pretty well too (7.0/11 this week, 7.0/11 last week, 7.7/12 in its 1st week). Once DWTS is over it may run into some trouble, but it's in a solid position for the next couple of weeks at least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Niggardly King 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2006 You guys don't know where the comedy is at this year... where is it you may ask? Help Me Help You Ted Danson and Tim Meadows >>>>>>Studio 60>>>>>>>>>>>30 Rock Wait a minute- theres someone else who watches Help Me Help You? If ever a show screamed "cancelled" it's that one. It's so low budget, I don't see how it got on the air. Danson's awesome though. I'm not saying 30 Rock was great, but I'm just so excited at seeing Alec Baldwin on my TV every week That's why I don't think it will be cancelled. It's really cheap, and the ratings have been decent for it. Plus... come on, it's Ted Danson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk 34 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2006 I like Alec Baldwin (who doesn't?) but I wish he was doing something better then a Tina Fey/Tracy Morgan vehicle because any show that requires Morgan to carry part of it is a disaster in the making. So far, none of the new sitcoms have worked except The Class and that is only because they have two characters that I actually like while the rest aren't enjoyable. 2GY isn't good at all, Ted Danson isn't enough for HMHY. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scroby 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2006 More on 30 Rock/20 Good Years- With three successful shows co-existing in the 8 p.m. hour (plus baseball in the mix on Fox), there was little room for the premieres of NBC’s highly touted 30 Rock and the largely panned 20 Good Years. 30 Rock kicked off with a modest 6.3/10 in the overnights (#4), 8.26 million viewers (#3) and a 2.9/ 9 among adults 18-49 (#3) at 8 p.m. That led into 20 Good Years at a not-so-good 5.7/ 9 in the overnights (#4), 6.97 million viewers (#4) and a 2.5/ 7 among adults 18-49 (#4t) at 8:30 p.m. Compared to year-ago failed occupant E-Ring (Overnights: #2t, 6.4/10; Viewers: #2, 8.56 million; A18-49: #4, 2.3/ 7 on Oct. 12, 2005) that was, on average, a decline of 6 percent in the overnights and 640,000 viewers, but an increase of 17 percent among adults 18-49 for the two comedies. Of note: The last time NBC opened the season with sitcoms in the Wednesday 8 p.m. hour was in 1997 with The Tony Danza Show and Built To Last, and both those shows were gone by December. 20 Good Years is not long for this earth, but I think increasing 17% from E-Ring is a positive sign. You win this round Barron, but just you wait. 20 good years will come back from the ashes and then I shall win the next round! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2006 Scroby v. Barron: Next week, it's personal. Baldwin can't be the main guy on 30 Rock b/c of his movie career. His waffling on whether to join 30 was a major headache. I hated The Class pilot, and never went back. I like Jason Ritter, but seeing Janice Ian play a 28 year old is weird. I'll keep watching Help Me until it gets the axe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
