4,000 dead Americans

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

You called Pelosi's trip a debacle and asked "what this bird" was thinking when you had absolutely no idea what you were talking about.

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

So, yeah, bite my ass, Dobbs.

 

I have no problem with your bringing a "different perspective," just so long as it's not made-up, uninformed bullshit.

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Sounds like McCain will be flipflopping on his safe-Baghdad-streets bullshit tomorrow night on 60 Minutes.

[Dobbs 3K 0]

So, yeah, bite my ass, Dobbs.

 

I have no problem with your bringing a "different perspective," just no long as its not made-up, uninformed bullshit.

 

Hmmm...

 

Yeah, I'm done with this one.

 

You win the internet. Congrats. *clap clap clap*

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10 more dead on Easter weekend.

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BAGHDAD - The renegade cleric Muqtada al-Sadr urged Iraqi forces to stop cooperating with the United States and told his guerrilla fighters to concentrate their attacks on American troops rather than Iraqis, according to a statement issued Sunday.

 

The statement, stamped with al-Sadr's official seal, was distributed in the Shiite holy city of Najaf on Sunday — a day before a large demonstration there, called for by al-Sadr, to mark the fourth anniversary of the fall of Baghdad...

 

Shit.

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

Turkey's army chief said Thursday the military had launched several ''large scale'' offensives against rebels in the predominantly Kurdish southeast, and he asked the government for approval to launch an incursion into neighboring northern Iraq...

 

On Monday, the Turkish government demanded again that U.S. and Iraqi officials crack down on guerrillas from the Kurdistan Workers Party, or PKK.

 

''An operation into Iraq is necessary,'' said Gen. Yasar Buyukanit, the head of Turkey's powerful military. ''The PKK has huge freedom of movement in Iraq ... It has spread its roots in Iraq.''

New York Times

 

 

Shit.

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Turkey's army chief said Thursday the military had launched several ''large scale'' offensives against rebels in the predominantly Kurdish southeast, and he asked the government for approval to launch an incursion into neighboring northern Iraq...

 

On Monday, the Turkish government demanded again that U.S. and Iraqi officials crack down on guerrillas from the Kurdistan Workers Party, or PKK.

 

''An operation into Iraq is necessary,'' said Gen. Yasar Buyukanit, the head of Turkey's powerful military. ''The PKK has huge freedom of movement in Iraq ... It has spread its roots in Iraq.''

New York Times

 

 

Shit.

Jesus Christ.

[EricMM 0]

Yeah this is going SO well.

 

So, if we federalize, is Turkey just gonna invade the Kurdish part??

[Guest jonnymack]

I'm with smitty - shit.

 

I just found this thread and wish I were surprised by the number of dead Iraqis. Just f-ing sad man, all for nothing and now we're left in an unwinnable situation. Wish I was smart enough to have the answer but I'm just a wrestling fan wasting time at work.

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

I just found this thread and wish I were surprised by the number of dead Iraqis.

 

That 655,000 number is disputed, mostly by (the remaining) war supporters.

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BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Car bombs killed nearly 200 people in Baghdad on Wednesday in the deadliest attacks in the city since U.S. and Iraqi forces launched a security crackdown aimed at halting the country's slide into civil war.

 

One car bomb alone in the mainly Shi'ite Sadriya neighborhood killed 140 people and wounded 150, police said, making it the worst insurgent bomb attack in Baghdad since the U.S.-led invasion in 2003.

 

"The street was transformed into a swimming pool of blood," Ahmed Hameed, a shopkeeper near the scene, told Reuters.... The apparently coordinated attacks -- there were four within a short space of time -- occurred hours after Shi'ite Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki said Iraq would take security control of the whole country from foreign forces by the end of the year.

Reuters

 

Shit.

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LOL

 

"Give it time to work!"

 

"There will be good days and bad days"

 

Don't worry, Iraq, this is just one of those "bad days"

[Guest Richard McBeef]

LOL

LOL!

[EricMM 0]

I el oh elled.

 

Tongue in cheek...

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Turkey's army chief said Thursday the military had launched several ''large scale'' offensives against rebels in the predominantly Kurdish southeast, and he asked the government for approval to launch an incursion into neighboring northern Iraq...

 

On Monday, the Turkish government demanded again that U.S. and Iraqi officials crack down on guerrillas from the Kurdistan Workers Party, or PKK.

 

''An operation into Iraq is necessary,'' said Gen. Yasar Buyukanit, the head of Turkey's powerful military. ''The PKK has huge freedom of movement in Iraq ... It has spread its roots in Iraq.''

New York Times

 

 

Shit.

Jesus Christ.

Son of a bitch.

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U.S. Erects Baghdad Wall to Keep Sects Apart

 

By EDWARD WONG and DAVID S. CLOUD

Published: April 21, 2007

BAGHDAD, April 20 — American military commanders in Baghdad are trying a radical new strategy to quell the widening sectarian violence by building a 12-foot-high, three-mile-long wall separating a historic Sunni enclave from Shiite neighborhoods.

 

Soldiers in the Adhamiya district of northern Baghdad, a Sunni Arab stronghold, began construction of the wall last week and expect to finish it within a month. Iraqi Army soldiers would then control movement through a few checkpoints. The wall has already drawn intense criticism from residents of the neighborhood, who say that it will increase sectarian tensions and that it is part of a plan by the Shiite-led Iraqi government to box in the minority Sunnis.

 

A doctor in Adhamiya, Abu Hassan, said the wall would transform the residents into caged animals.

 

“It’s unbelievable that they treat us in such an inhumane manner,” he said in a telephone interview. “They’re trying to isolate us from other parts of Baghdad. The hatred will be much greater between the two sects.”

 

“The Native Americans were treated better than us,” he added.

New York Times

 

I think they're calling this The Invader3K Strategy.

 

Obligatory "shit."

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

Here's the wall:

 

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

Picture of one of the massive bombings in Baghdad last week:

 

[Slayer 0]

"So we can build a wall over in Iraq but we won't build one down south"

[theintensifier 0]

Did they disclose how much explosives were inside the vehicles? The amount necessary to create such a deadly blast would easily be at least 500 pounds.

 

We've got people shooting up college students and they've got genocidal bombers.

 

I'm just wondering when a terrorist will detonate a nuclear device within one of our cities. Only a matter of time.

[Dr. Zaius 0]

Here's the wall:

 

Those look like tombstones. I'm sure that's just a coincidence.

[Dobbs 3K 0]

"So we can build a wall over in Iraq but we won't build one down south"

 

OK, I guess I have to jump back in here.

 

Yes, that was kind of what I was thinking. But what I'm thinking more at this point is "Why the hell are we still there? Is this what Bush meant by rebuilding Iraq?"

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9 more dead in a single attack yesterday, all from Fort Bragg.

 

Meanwhile Bush continues to mindlessly invoke 9-11 rather than focus on any actual problems/solutions.

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Heard Michael Savage going off on the right wing war cheerleaders on the radio today. It was quite amusing.

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http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews....=rss&rpc=22

 

Why does the 'liberal media' continue to just let Bush Jr get away with ignoring this guy & actual terrorism?

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

And this administration has conducted a feckless photo-op foreign policy for which we will pay a very heavy price in American blood and treasure.

John McCain

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wait for it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Regarding Kosovo.

[NoCalMike 0]

By building this wall, doesn't it kind of admit a failure of the mission. Also, maybe this is why*hint*oil*cough* we are STILL THERE

 

Blood and oil: How the West will profit from Iraq's most precious commodity

The 'IoS' today reveals a draft for a new law that would give Western oil companies a massive share in the third largest reserves in the world. To the victors, the oil? That is how some experts view this unprecedented arrangement with a major Middle East oil producer that guarantees investors huge profits for the next 30 years

(read the rest of the article by clicking on the link I posted)

 

Oh and then there is this wonderful bit of news about training Iraqi forces not even being a driving force in U.S. Policy anymore For Fucks Sakes....So I guess the entire "When they stand up, we'll stand down" slogan turned out to be another meaningless soundbyte....

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So, before we went into Iraq, it was a fairly secular society, albeit a ruthless Dictatorship. Now that we've gone in and instituted Democracy, we need to build walls to keep the different communities from killing each other. The fact that no-one at the top is ever going to have to pay for their actions in a legal sense is a sick joke, though one we've seen time and again.

 

PS: So much for an independant Iraqi government, seeing as how they don't want the walls and their being built anyway

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Bush vows to impeach this measure passed by the House and Senate now. So what happens next?