Hawk 34 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2006 LIVE RING OF HONOR RESULTS FROM PHILADELPHIA by Mike Johnson @ 7:45:00 PM on 11/4/2006 We are live at Ring od Honor's return to their homebase of Philadelphia, PA. *Christopher Daniels pinned M-Dogg 20 Matt Cross with Angel's Wings. ROH Tag Team champions Chris Hero and Claudio Castagnoli hit the ring from the crowd and attacked both. Allison Danger jumped on Claudio's back but Hero punched her in the face. Austin Aries and Roderick Strong hit the ring and brawled through the crowd with the Kings of Wrestling. Matt Sydal hit the ring to check on Daniels. Daniels challenged Hero and Castagnoli to face them when they were done with Strong and Aries. *ROH Commissioner Jim Cornette came to the ring with Shane Hagadorn. Cornette ripped on the fans, saying he returned because the last time he was here, Homicide spit in his face. He said what was worse was that the fans took Homicide's side after all Cornette had done to help ROH. He said that knowing it's Cornette's vow to ruin Homicide's career, Homicide brought Konnan with him. He ripped on LAX's claims of racism. He said the rules for Corino vs. Homicide will feature Hagadorn as the special referee with Anything Goes for Corino while Homicide will be DQ'd if he cheats. He said Homicide needs to pin Corino for a 10 count. Homicide, Konnan, Ricky Reyes, and Julius Smokes came to the ring. Konnan ripped on Cornette and defended the fans. Konnan said he was here to make sure Cornette didn't stack the decks against Homicide. He tore apart Cornette and Southerners like him. He asked Cornette why Reyes isn't getting more matches. Cornette said he isn't good enough. Konnan challenged him to do Reyes vs. Hagadorn right now. Cornette agreed. Hagadorn said no but Cornette ordered him to wrestle. *Ricky Reyes choked out Shane Hagadorn after several minutes. The crowd expected a quick match, chanting "30 seconds." Crowd wasn't deeply into it and seemed surprised when Hagadorn was on offense. *Currently in the ring is Pele Primeau won a Four Corners match over Colt Cabana, BJ Whitmer, and Tank Toland. The match was designed to make Primeau into something of a Mikey Whipwreck upset kid as he took a ton of abuse before shocking Toland with a rollup. He jumped into the crowd in celebration and they crowd surfed him into the bleachers. He returned to shake hands but Toland refused and walked of. *Samoa Joe & Nigel McGuinness defeated ROH Champion Bryan Danielson & Jimmy Rave when McGuinness hit a rebound clothesline on Rave as Danielson and Joe brawled to the back. After the match, Jimmy Rave hopped in the crowd and went after a fan that threw toilet paper, but security grabbed him. McGuinness took the mic and told Rave to act like a professional. Pretty sure that was an angle for whatever Rave's new direction is. *Jim Cornette came out and said that since Hagadorn couldn't referee, the main event was cancelled and Homicide was fired. Homicide and his crew came out. Konnan asked the fans who should be fired and they picked Cornette. Security dragged Cornette to the back. Whatever they intended here, not sure they accomplished it. *Briscoes defeated Delirious & Davey Richards after hitting a spike J-Driller on Delirious for the pin. ROH Tag Team champs Chris Hero & Claudio Castagnoli defeated Austin Aries & Roderick Strong, DQ when Aries used a briefcase Hero brought into the ring and was DQ'd. All four brawled into the crowd and out of the building. *KENTA pinned Matt Sydal with Go To Sleep in the best match of the show thus far. It was a really competitive bout designed to show Sydal could hang with the top of the roster. After the match KENTA, who was making his final appearance here for several months, thanked the fans and ROH. Samoa Joe came out and said that when he first came across KENTA in Japan, he didn't think much of him. He said he felt the same when KENTA came to ROH but he was man enough to state when he was wrong and said KENTA proved himself. He said he had an important message to send back to NOAH and Kenta Kobashi, and slapped KENTA. The locker room emptied and Joe stalked off. **Homicide pinned Steve Corino with a lariat in a bloody Fight Without Honor that saw a barbed wire bat, tables and more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2006 This show has been getting negative reviews- sounds like Corino-Cide was flat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk 34 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2006 Yeah, aside from KENTA/Sydal which has gotten rave reviews as you would expect, the rest of the show has been slammed especially the Cornette stuff. I get that Gabe probably had short notice with Cornette's departure but he should have been able to come up something better. ROH rarely gets flat shows and especially with negative reaction like this but when it happens off a show with big hype like Corino/Cide got especially with how good the Philly shows have been, it's not good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2006 Plus...winning with a lariat? If this really was the ending, it should be Corino getting stabbed repeatedly in the nuts with a fork and then Cop Killahed on something brutal. Better not be the ending Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk 34 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2006 Last weekend, Corino tried to "murder" Homicide and yet here Homicide stalled and wrestled him instead. Throughout the match Homicide would insult Corino's kid and they decide on a audible (according to Corino) to do the handshake embrace deal. It worked for Cabana and Homicide but this was something different. This was a rivalry that spanned most of ROH's history. Gabe does this alot, sets hype big and disapoints in the clutch. He either relies on the talent to salvage the show (which they usually do) or he'll get too cute for his own good and it ruins everything. They did this with Daniels/Punk last year by going with a draw instead of the logical war they should have had. Gabe is the best overall booker around but sometimes he gets these lapses and he comes off not asa Paul Heyman disciple but rather a Russo one. ROH runs 35-40 shows a year now and they usually have 5 flat shows, which is pretty good but when they have a flat show or poorly booked show (which last night was), it really stands out more then a high quality show would. I really didn't like how Sydal steps up big time and hangs with Kenta (in his last match in ROH for 2006) and with Gabe pushing that Sydal is the future, just for Joe to come out and brush Sydal off to do his bit about Kobashi. I'm also glad that Cornette is gone from ROH now because he was too cliche and generic during his tenure. I know people like to think Cornette is the smartest man in the business but when he does the same tired 80's act in 2006, it becomes sadder by the day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HollywoodSpikeJenkins 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2006 The Underdog wins! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2006 I never got why Punk got the better of Daniels. It killed his character out of the gate. I liked Cornette in ROH, and I think he was taking time off in general. The problem is that Cornette v. Homicide is just too WWEized. It's like Cena v. Bischoff but with forks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk 34 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2006 I never got why Punk got the better of Daniels. It killed his character out of the gate. I liked Cornette in ROH, and I think he was taking time off in general. The problem is that Cornette v. Homicide is just too WWEized. It's like Cena v. Bischoff but with forks Punk needed a draw to validate himself with the draw but Daniels was the worse possible choice of all the guys Punk wrestled last summer. Strong, Lethal and Gibson were better options for a draw finish. Daniels never got his vengeance over Punk, and Punk even got the last laugh in the 4 Way title change match. Gabe's love for Punk got in the way of booking in that instance. That was the only hiccup of the entire Punk angle which was otherwise well done. Cornette/Homicide was almost identical to every Heel Authority Vs Cool Babyface angle that WWE, WCW and TNA has done. For a promotion that thrives off selling itself as old school driven, it was pretty idiotic to do this angle. Especially with how race driven it was. Cornette is Cornette and we all know what he thinks and feels but it while it worked in the 80's, it is completely archaic in 2006. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2006 What may have affected the Cornette deal is that Cornette was originally going to leave ROH before Gabe proposed the angle where would become the commissioner and eventually turn heel. It's possible that Cornette, who would have had some say in the angle as it is, wanted to do it that way and Gabe agreed so as to keep things smooth. The Authority Figure vs. Wrestler storyline is played out, though, no matter who is in it. It's like copying Montreal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk 34 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2006 What may have affected the Cornette deal is that Cornette was originally going to leave ROH before Gabe proposed the angle where would become the commissioner and eventually turn heel. It's possible that Cornette, who would have had some say in the angle as it is, wanted to do it that way and Gabe agreed so as to keep things smooth. The Authority Figure vs. Wrestler storyline is played out, though, no matter who is in it. It's like copying Montreal. What annoys me about Cornette is that with all his ranting against WWE and their practices, he turns around and refuses to evolve and does the same thing WWE does with his race baiting and homophobic rants. It's completely hypocritical but it's a hypocritical business. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2006 When was ROH's last misfire? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk 34 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2006 When was ROH's last misfire? WOC Night 1 was the last real lackluster show but I think in terms of hype, it has to be Unscripted II but that had insane circumstances around it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keith6601 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2006 I was expecting Homicide to give the whole respect speech and offer a handshake, but I was surprised Corino actually shook it. I figured he would walk away like Cide did to him. Except for the Cornette stuff, I enjoyed the show. The dream tag was laid out perfect with Danielson running from Joe everytime Joe looked his way and Rave trying to prove himself against two of the top guys. Danielson helping Rave with Nigel's moves since he's seen them so much was a nice touch. I was letdown when Sydal was first announced as the opponent for KENTA, but he proved that he deserved the spot. KENTA was out to destroy him from the start and Sydal just tried to keep ahead of him. ROH missed the chance to give Sydal the spotlight with the post match Joe stuff though. Sydal could have been left in the ring with KENTA after the pull apart so he could get the accolades he deserved but instead he headed towards the ramp and there was a small pause with him and KENTA. The Corino/Homicide match wasn't the violent "kill the other" war that I thought it would be but it was still violent. When Cide was first busted open, Smokes turned to our section yelling "holy shit". Everything Corino did was perfect and the abuse to his ear was sick. I saw alot of people turning their head away when Cide was using the barbwire bat. This isn't one of those blow away shows that everyone will be talking about, but in no way at all should this show be passed up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk 34 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2006 Gabe explains the Cornette situation (kayfabe) The reign of ROH Commissioner Jim Cornette officially ended on November 4th in Philadelphia. Cornette has been descending into madness since July 15th when he whipped Homicide after Cage Of Death. The Commissioner hit rock bottom and went completely insane on 11/4 leading to the fans dismissing him. Here is a quick timeline of what led to Cornette's departure from ROH: -Although this was not made public, there were concerns in the ROH offices after the 10/28 show about Cornette as ROH Commissioner. Cornette had been making some questionable rulings and was no longer impartial. -Homicide brings Konnan to ROH on 11/4. This is significant because Konnan knows how to play the political game and now Homicide had a political ally in his corner. -During the course of the 11/4 event, Cornette's descent into madness hits rock bottom. He goes completely insane. He makes ridiculous rules for the Fight Without Honor pitting Homicide vs. Steve Corino that completely go against everything ROH was built on. He then even goes so far as to cancel the main event. Cornette has become the evil heel commissioner that he promised never to be. -Behind the scenes, Konnan goes to the ROH owner and matchmaker to discuss Cornette's insanity. -Cornette shows his complete insanity and says to the live crowd that the main event of Homicide vs. Corino is canceled and that Homicide is out of ROH. Cornette then backs himself into a corner and says that it is either him or Homicide in ROH. Konnan comes out with the support of ROH's owner and matchmaker and asks the fans if they want Homicide or Cornette. The fans side with Homicide and Cornette is escorted out of the building by security. Jim Cornette's time as ROH Commissioner provided many memorable promos and moments. Cornette was instrumental in leading the ROH troops against CZW. However, once he turned his attention to Homicide, Cornette slowly went insane and it reached a climax on 11/4 in Philadelphia. Cornette is now out of ROH and has no return dates scheduled. The ROH/Cornette relationship has suffered an ugly break up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites