Offseason College Football Thread

[Broward83 0]

I don't really agree with how high Texas is. Getting ripped by K-State then just laying an egg at DKR against AnM was harmful enough, but then barely hanging on against Iowa doesn't make them a top five team.

 

I'd say top ten, maybe seven or eight.

[Guest •]

I have problems with a city that refuses business' to build within its limits if they won't conform by changing their color scheme. (If you didn't know, any business that has an orange/white color scheme is forced to change it to maroon/white because of their hatred of UT or as they like to refer to Austin, TU. Whataburger, Home Depot and others have had to do this in order to open up in College Station. Hooters told 'em fuck off, and didn't build) Oh yeah, and how the city condones acts of vandalism to anything that is UT (ripping off chrome horns, tearing off bumper stickers and replacing them with AnM ones) ..oh, and most of the state pretty much regards College Station to nothing more than a city of cultists.[/i][/b]

 

I'm standing by my theory that college sports make you stupid.

 

As you've pointed out on your own.

-=Mike

I didn't know that about College Station, but that infantile provincial bullshit verifies "college sports make you stupid" much better than your weak comeback.

[Guest Vitamin X]

As far as the supposed Texas college students... fuck 'em, I mean yeah.. because there aren't numerous other students from other states that are just as imbecilic? Right. The fact they got pissed off about their not being any Budweiser is stupid yeah... but honestly, with as wide spread as it is around the world... are they actually wrong for assuming that Budweiser would be available? Hell, I got upset when I lived in Brownsville and couldn't find a single bar that served Shiner Bock on tap, even though its a Texan brew.

 

Just as imbecilic? It's possible. But I've rarely met people from anywhere other than from the South and from Texas in particular that is abhorrent from change and anything that deviates from their way of life. That may be a generalization, but this is entirely subjective as it is my own opinion, from what I've seen. And yes, they are wrong for assuming that Budweiser would be available- for one thing, they're in fucking SPAIN. Budweiser may be a popular beer in the United States, but not so in other countries, perhaps due to the fact that it's fucking piss, but Americans will buy up anything that's available and marketed heavily enough. Yay capitalism! But that's off topic..

 

This is your opinion, and so be it. I personally think the field is a distraction and not needed. Want to be unique? Add something extra to your pre-game or half-time ritual. Look at THE OSU. They play on a regular field.. but you know what makes them unique? Script Ohio. Florida State? The warrior that rides out and throws down the flaming spear.

 

A marching band and a mascot. Sure, unique to their respective universities, and I respect that, but damn near every other team in college football has that. Boise State does it different and goes with a blue field. And you're in the minority as far as I know in regards to people that dislike it.

[iggymcfly 0]

I've got to say, I'm getting pretty excited about the upcoming season. Georgia Tech's looking absolutely loaded as shown by the #10 ranking CFN gave them. They've got 4 offensive linemen and both backs returning including the leading rusher in the ACC last year in Tashard Choice and they've got 8 starters back from a defense which was definitely their strength last season. And remember if Reggie Ball had played like an average HS quarterback the last two regular season games, GT would have been 11-2 going into the Orange Bowl. They've got more than enough talent to win the conference this year, if not to actually contend for the national title.

 

 

Also, while I don't have a complete set of rankings or anything yet, here's my rough Top 10 going into next season:

 

1. USC

2. LSU

3. Louisville

4. Oklahoma

5. Texas

6. Michigan

7. Wisconsin

8. West Virginia

9. Georgia Tech

10. Florida

 

The group below that's tougher to actually rank team-by-team, but it would include UCLA, Virginia Tech, Tennessee, and Ohio State for sure with Miami, Auburn, Rutgers, Georgia, and Penn State being close as well.

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

CFN's undying boner for Georgia Tech continues. I think they'll go about 8-4, play in the Music City or Champs Bowl, and lose there to make sure that Chan Gailey pulls off his trademark 5-loss season.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Why is USC the consensus #1? Booty wasn't that good and they lost Jarrett and Smith.

[Guest Vitamin X]

I'm as baffled as you are. I think Louisville and LSU are stronger teams right now.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

I don't know about that. LSU lost Russell and they have problems keeping Perriloux out of trouble. Louisville is returning a lot of guys, but Michael Bush is gone. I'd say Michigan poses the strongest chance of winning the title right now. Or West Virginia.

[iggymcfly 0]

Michigan's only got 10 returning starters, less than anyone in the Big Ten. They do have the big skill position guys back on offense, but I don't think they'll win at Wisconsin and I certainly don't see them winning the title. USC, meanwhile, has 10 returning starters just on defense. Of the preseason all Pac-Ten squad on D, 7 of the 11 first-teamers are from SC. Even if the offense isn't quite where it was in the Bush and Leinart days, the overall team talent might be even better than the 2005 team that went 13-0 and won the title.

[Guest]

Our defense is mean. In the Pac-10, I don't know how much it'll matter. Every team can score a lot of points in a hurry.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Yeah the defense is great, but like King says, the Pac-10 is pretty much an offensive conference, like the SEC is a defensive one. Anyone from Washington to Arizona to Stanford to Cal can score 35+ in any game, given the chance. And I don't trust Booty to be able to anchor the USC offense in every shootout.

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

I was going to break down the whole ACC, but realized that, less than a month away from the start of the season, I still don't know enough about this year's teams to really distinguish between the 5-7's and the 8-4's. So, I'm going to predict that Duke goes 1-11, and everyone else goes 7-5, except for Virginia Tech. They'll go 10-2 and lose the Orange Bowl.

[Art Sandusky 0]

Yup, another exciting year of ACC football! Nothin' but love.

[iggymcfly 0]

I was going to break down the whole ACC, but realized that, less than a month away from the start of the season, I still don't know enough about this year's teams to really distinguish between the 5-7's and the 8-4's. So, I'm going to predict that Duke goes 1-11, and everyone else goes 7-5, except for Virginia Tech. They'll go 10-2 and lose the Orange Bowl.

 

Georgia Tech >>> Virginia Tech. They destroyed them last year in Blacksburg and they're returning their entire defense and running game. I could see you saying they won't win the conference, but putting them at 7-5 is ridiculous.

 

Also, after looking things over a little more, I'd probably change the bottom of my Top Ten a little bit, putting UCLA ahead of Georgia Tech and Florida. They've got 20 starters coming back from the team that beat Oregon State, Arizona State, and USC to finish the season last year. And with the way their schedule sets up, I honestly don't see them losing a game until they face the Trojans. They get Oregon, Cal, and Arizona State all at home so Oregon State's going to be the only tough road test they face in their first 11.

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

I wasn't exactly being serious with the 7-5's all around. I spent a good chunk of taxpayer money this afternoon reading up on rosters and how the new coaches are doing, so I'll get around to it. That said, I'll never have confidence in Georgia Tech until Chan Gailey shows me he knows how to coach a team. With Calvin Johnson and Tenuta's crazy-good defense last year, they had no excuse to blow as many big opportunities as they did. Much as I hate his goiter-having ass, I'll take Beamer.

[ANKLELOCK 0]

I know this is a belated reaction to the preseason polls but...Cal voted ahead of Tennessee again? When they return roughly the same amount of starters?

Do they never learn?

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

I know this is a belated reaction to the preseason polls but...Cal voted ahead of Tennessee again? When they return roughly the same amount of starters?

Do they never learn?

 

Never learn that Cal would finish higher in the conference than Tennessee?

[Hogan Made Wrestling 0]

I wasn't exactly being serious with the 7-5's all around. I spent a good chunk of taxpayer money this afternoon reading up on rosters and how the new coaches are doing, so I'll get around to it. That said, I'll never have confidence in Georgia Tech until Chan Gailey shows me he knows how to coach a team. With Calvin Johnson and Tenuta's crazy-good defense last year, they had no excuse to blow as many big opportunities as they did. Much as I hate his goiter-having ass, I'll take Beamer.

 

Reggie Ball

[ANKLELOCK 0]

Never learn that Cal would finish higher in the conference than Tennessee?

 

No, learn that when a team gets a new asshole ripped by another team and loses the majority of the defense while the other team retains more starters at key positions including the Quarterback who threw for 300 yards and four TDs against aforementioned team the prior year, it probably means that the first team shouldn't be perceived as "better".

 

And the differences between the SEC and the Pac-10 are well documented to the point that your suggestion is quite humorous, actually.

[therealworldschampion 0]

Gailey should be fired if he has another 5 loss season this year. With the talent that GT has with their running game and defense, there's no reason why they shouldn't be a favorite for the ACC title considering how down the conference has been. Vegas has GT getting 3 points at Notre Dame in Week 1, definite GT outright win there.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Never learn that Cal would finish higher in the conference than Tennessee?

 

No, learn that when a team gets a new asshole ripped by another team and loses the majority of the defense while the other team retains more starters at key positions including the Quarterback who threw for 300 yards and four TDs against aforementioned team the prior year, it probably means that the first team shouldn't be perceived as "better".

 

And the differences between the SEC and the Pac-10 are well documented to the point that your suggestion is quite humorous, actually.

 

Actually I was citing it as a possible logic they would use. Not like Cal or Tennessee would do anything this season anyways.

[Guest Vitamin X]

And the differences between the SEC and the Pac-10 are well documented to the point that your suggestion is quite humorous, actually.

 

Yeah man, I know what you mean.. Like how the Pac-10 actually produces watchable football and all that..

[Guest]

Don't get me wrong, I like watching SEC football (because I'm sick in the head), but 6-3 games aren't exactly the highlight of my Saturdays. It's like watching football devoid of any offensive talent. There aren't any playmakers. Lo and behold, the one team that could score points in the conference won the National Title, but let's be real here. It's horrendous offensive football.

 

I like it, it just gets boring after a while.

[ANKLELOCK 0]

You almost had a decent point until the thing about Florida being the one team in the SEC who could score. Their offensive woes in comparison to other SEC teams and their reliance on defense to keep them in the game was highlighted as a major concern going into the SEC Title Game. They beat Vanderbilt by six for this very reason. The last two games of the year were the only games they showed any kind of above average offense. Leak wasn't a fit at all in Meyer's scheme.

 

And ask Notre Dame about LSU's ability to score, or ask Cal about Tennessee's ability to score, ask Va Tech about Georgia's ability to score, hell South Carolina scored 44 in their bowl game.

 

The offenses aren't bad, especially when they get to play against other conferences, it's just that theirs is a conference where they don't have to look up "defense" in the dictionary every offseason-a situation that, I'm sure, very much hits home to those who follow the Pac-10.

 

EDIT: With the obvious exception being USC.

[Guest]

You almost had a decent point until the thing about Florida being the one team in the SEC who could score. Their offensive woes in comparison to other SEC teams and their reliance on defense to keep them in the game was highlighted as a major concern going into the SEC Title Game.

That why they outscored every team besides LSU? And unlike LSU, they only ran up the score in 2 games. LSU ran it up against really poor opposition 6 times! I know about LSU's ability to score, and they damn sure had better have been able to score with the QB, multiple running backs and multiple wideouts they had. Outside of those two, there is NOTHING on offense. We've got a Tennessee team that struggled to score in each of their losses, and two of their wins against middle of the road opposition; and a Georgia team that went dead in the middle of the season and barely beat Colorado. They barely beat Ole Miss and lost to Vanderbilt! Where's the offense? It moved backwards while I was typing this. HELLO.

 

Who cares about South Carolina, they don't even matter. If you wanted to talk about good offense, you could have mentioned the streetball thing Arkansas had going last year. I'm not going to address what you said about defense in the Pac 10, these teams have to look it up when SC is smashing their teeth down their throats. But they are a level behind in defense, and that's mostly due to coaching. Surely not for a lack of talent, as athletically, the Pac 10 is probably the best conference out there. I would rather watch no defense than no offense.

 

I know that the teams you mentioned can score, but come on. LSU (who I said had a great offense) played against the defensive juggernaut from South Bend and South Carolina played Houston. Come on now. I'll mention Nebraska shutting down Auburn's offense, Wisconsin shutting down Arkansas, Tennessee and losing to Penn State in games where the SEC team as well as the other showed no offensive ability, but I think the point has been made by now.

 

I still like watching SEC football, but if someone says it's boring as fuck, I'm not going to disagree with them.

 

And I was typing this during your edit, so yeah. BYU buttraped Oregon last year, so I agree about having no defense. I made fun of my friend after that game last year and he hasn't talked to me since. I think it's safe to say that I don't have a friend playing at Oregon anymore.

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

When did "the SEC is boring" become a meme? I thought that was reserved for the Big Ten.

[iggymcfly 0]

Let's not get carried away with the "SC's the only Pac-Ten team that can play defense" either. UCLA's defense looks pretty awesome this year as well and is probably as good as any defense in the SEC except for LSU's. Oregon State's got a pretty solid D too.

[Guest Vitamin X]

Yeah, but you're not going to see an SC fan ceding that point.

 

Oregon is in a bad way these days, though. It looked like things may have been looking up for them as recently as a couple seasons ago, but they're fucked right now. Shame, as they really looked like they could contend with the other Pac-10 powers. As it stands right now, it looks like the contenders there are SC, UCLA, Cal, and OSU. Hmm.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

What? It was a Tennessee fan who mentioned the whole "Pac-10 defenses sucks besides USC!" UCLA has a great defense, Oregon State has a decent defense and there are some other Pac-10 defenses that are underrated, but offense is what dominates the Pac-10, and you can't win with just a good defense there. That's why I don't know why USC is #1 if all they have going for them is defense, really.

 

Anyways my point is don't paint USC fans as people who won't give credit where credit is due. We're not like Matt Leinart or anything like that.

[Guest]

Yeah man, I never said there weren't other good defensive teams in the conference. Both Cal and UCLA have really good defenses.

 

I said this

 

And I was typing this during your edit, so yeah. BYU buttraped Oregon last year, so I agree about having no defense.

and what I meant was that the majority of the conference has no defense. Arizona's defense would be ok if they could get some possession from their offense.