Over/Under

[King Cucaracha 0]

Dames needs to give this thread a star rating. It was bad, but not TNA bad.

[Live Free or Battlenuts 0]

What'd you think I'd bring the computer with me?

 

I'd like to call you something other than a retard, but you make it impossible. I'm not into wasting my creativity on labeling. I simply call it as it is.

 

But do tell us King Cucaracha, forgetting that people can read for a second, what have you accomplished in this thread? It sure as hell isn't convincing me you're intelligent. That ship sailed after "idiot says you was an guy".

[GIYGAS 0]

... friends ...

 

... I'm so sad ...

 

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[King Cucaracha 0]

But do tell us King Cucaracha, forgetting that people can read for a second, what have you accomplished in this thread? It sure as hell isn't convincing me you're intelligent. That ship sailed after "idiot says you was an guy".

 

I whittled away a couple of hours while waiting for a PM. And I can assure you, 'an guy' was a deliberate, or an deliberate, flag which I'm glad you caught. Had you not, I might have worried about you. If you really thought grammar was an issue while editing what you said into an 'hilarious' wrong quote then you misunderestimate me and my grasp of the edit button function. Anyway, have an nice day.

[zhangmeijie 0]

What'd you think I'd bring the computer with me?

 

I'd like to call you something other than a retard, but you make it impossible. I'm not into wasting my creativity on labeling. I simply call it as it is.

 

But do tell us King Cucaracha, forgetting that people can read for a second, what have you accomplished in this thread? It sure as hell isn't convincing me you're intelligent. That ship sailed after "idiot says you was an guy".

Sure, I've seen people like you before - but I had to pay an admission...

 

Hi there, I'm a human being! What are you?

 

I've seen more life in a down and out's vest.

 

You're red shirt goes well with your eyes...

 

Save your breath...You'll need it to blow up your date.

 

Shouldn't you have a license for being that ugly?

 

Calling you an idiot would be an insult to all the stupid people.

 

Folk clap when they see you...but they clap their hands over their eyes.

 

You're about as much use as a Betamax videorecorder

 

All day I thought of you....I was at the zoo.

 

I'd love to ask how old you are, but unfortunately I know you can't count that high.

 

You should learn from your parents mistakes - try using some birth control.

 

He does the work of three men: Curly, Larry and Moe

 

Next time you shave, try standing an inch or two closer to the blade.

 

If I was as ugly as you were, I wouldn't say Hi to folk, I'd say BOO!

 

You've got the perfect weapon against muggers - yer face.

 

You got a face only a mother could love...unfortunately she too hates it!

 

I heard that you went to the haunted house and they offered you a job.

 

Listen, are you always this stupid or are you just making a special effort today?

 

Sure, I'd love to help you out...now, which way did you come in?

 

Anybody who told you to be yourself simply couldn't have given you worse advice...

 

I heard you were so cool that you began teaching remedial classes at Cucumber college.

 

Well, they do say opposites attact...so I sincerely hope you meet somebody who is attractive, honest, intelligent, and cultured.

 

I heard that you changed your mind. So, what did you do with the diaper?

 

Why don't you slip into something more comfortable...like a coma.

 

You started at the bottom...and it's been downhill ever since!

 

I heard that you were a Ladykiller. They take one look at you and die of shock.

 

Is your name Maple Syrup? - Well, it damn well should be, you sap!

 

I know what sign you were born under...'RED LIGHT DISTRICT'

 

 

Sorry but I couldn't be bothered to come up with a new insult so I just copied the best. After all you wouldn't look at a turd after you shat it into the toilet. Speaking of which time to print all your replies and use them to wipe my arse with.

[Live Free or Battlenuts 0]

I got half way through those before I realized they were supposed to be insults.

 

I whittled away a couple of hours while waiting for a PM. And I can assure you, 'an guy' was a deliberate, or an deliberate, flag which I'm glad you caught. Had you not, I might have worried about you. If you really thought grammar was an issue while editing what you said into an 'hilarious' wrong quote then you misunderestimate me and my grasp of the edit button function. Anyway, have an nice day.

 

And yet someone so 'next-level' couldn't see the sarcasm in 'killing it' and 'long walks on the beach'? Just doesn't fit the profile. See, when you piece it all together, from the original horrible quote edit, to the 14 that followed, to your sudden change of heart and attempt at changing intelligence, it just doesn't come off like someone waiting for a pm. Comes off more like someone who had no idea what they were trying to accomplish at any point, and just ended up being my bitch. I appreciate the effort, but when you come to a thread with no real point, at some point it's gonna become obvious. Take this moment of reflection and realize that although you may of been told you can play with the big boys, you were told by a bunch of little children who've never actually played with big boys.

 

Feel free to make that into something about me being gay, yeah it'd be lame, but lame's a step up for you, and at this point I'm starting to feel bad...

[King Cucaracha 0]

And yet someone so 'next-level' couldn't see the sarcasm in 'killing it' and 'long walks on the beach'? Just doesn't fit the profile. See, when you piece it all together, from the original horrible quote edit, to the 14 that followed, to your sudden change of heart and attempt at changing intelligence, it just doesn't come off like someone waiting for a pm.

 

Well, you've got me all figured out it looks like. The fact I went from mocking your edited quote technique (which for a self-professed 'big boy' was pretty goddamn weak and deserved to be mocked, let's be fucking honest) to actually humouring you is clearly indicitive of someone who's trying to 'change intelligence'. And there's nothing different about me today, perhaps the colour of my name, that would confirm to you I was infact waiting on a PM and did recieve it. So, maybe I should just accept defeat and leave you to pick an arguement with an intellectual equal. Which, by all accounts, would be yourself, because you degenerate into the 'retard' insult with everyone you've ever interacted with on this board. Again, I ask, do you ever get lonely Let Free Or Battlenuts? I'm willing to take pity on you and debate this for another day, so feel free to reply, although I highly expect it'll be the same old shit you keep flinging out from your e-rear over and over.

[zhangmeijie 0]

I got half way through those before I realized they were supposed to be insults.

 

I whittled away a couple of hours while waiting for a PM. And I can assure you, 'an guy' was a deliberate, or an deliberate, flag which I'm glad you caught. Had you not, I might have worried about you. If you really thought grammar was an issue while editing what you said into an 'hilarious' wrong quote then you misunderestimate me and my grasp of the edit button function. Anyway, have an nice day.

 

And yet someone so 'next-level' couldn't see the sarcasm in 'killing it' and 'long walks on the beach'? Just doesn't fit the profile. See, when you piece it all together, from the original horrible quote edit, to the 14 that followed, to your sudden change of heart and attempt at changing intelligence, it just doesn't come off like someone waiting for a pm. Comes off more like someone who had no idea what they were trying to accomplish at any point, and just ended up being my bitch. I appreciate the effort, but when you come to a thread with no real point, at some point it's gonna become obvious. Take this moment of reflection and realize that although you may of been told you can play with the big boys, you were told by a bunch of little children who've never actually played with big boys.

 

Feel free to make that into something about me being gay, yeah it'd be lame, but lame's a step up for you, and at this point I'm starting to feel bad...

 

Can you read? I said they were not insults as I was too lazy to post actual insults. Not wanting to waste my time on you and all.

 

[Live Free or Battlenuts 0]

Well, you've got me all figured out it looks like. The fact I went from mocking your edited quote technique (which for a self-professed 'big boy' was pretty goddamn weak and deserved to be mocked, let's be fucking honest)

 

And this is where it all goes wrong for you. I could find somewhere between 4000-10000 'quote change' posts from the history of this board, it's one of the "major league boarders" favorite means of posting without adding anything to discussion(which is seemingly your favorite game). When cleverly mocking an entire group of people you have to be able to communicate with those people. I was just speaking the language of the folk I was addressing, but when you wanted to pull out the dictionary to have it start doing your work for you, it seemed necessary to show you how silly it is when we can all fall back on it. Regardless, it's just poor form to make fun of someone for them making fun of you and you being too stupid to realize it.

 

to actually humouring you is clearly indicitive of someone who's trying to 'change intelligence'.

 

Going from essential jibberish to extensively trying to explain yourself seems a little heavier than humoring. Especially for someone who finds thinking to be such a challenge.

 

And there's nothing different about me today, perhaps the colour of my name, that would confirm to you I was infact waiting on a PM and did recieve it.

 

And yet I was so hopeful something would be. What are you waiting on now? If it's finding a point in what you're trying to say, I hope you brought a chair.

 

So, maybe I should just accept defeat

 

Oh we all know that's not gonna happen. If you don't tell a retard he's retarded, he'd never know. Even then, good luck.

 

and leave you to pick an arguement with an intellectual equal. Which, by all accounts, would be yourself, because you degenerate into the 'retard' insult with everyone you've ever interacted with on this board.

 

No, limited to you and someone who thought the Jazz would sweep the Lakers. It's still a toss up as to who's more retarded though, so at least you can achieve something.

 

Again, I ask, do you ever get lonely Let Free Or Battlenuts?

 

I'm flattered, and the more I think about it I can see how this was all one big excuse to spend time with me... but no. Sorry.

 

I'm willing to take pity on you and debate this for another day,

 

So it's pity that's making you stay, not pm's? Now I'm confused, I thought you were humoring me, not debating? Don't let it all fall apart at the end, it was one of the prettiest piles of shit I've ever seen.

 

so feel free to reply, although I highly expect it'll be the same old shit you keep flinging out from your e-rear over and over.

 

See, this flip-flopping on whether you see this as a real debate/discussion or something you're doing to pass time is just sloppy. Pick something and stick with it, at least then you'd have a chance at not seeming like you unfortunately stumbled into an argument with someone who, shockingly knows how to spell argument, and now find yourself in scramble mode to pull purpose out of coming to a board you left, to spend 5 pages going back and forth with a stupid person you don't care about.

 

 

And zhang you make me regret the fact that I can read more and more each day. Last time I ever be nice to you.

[King Cucaracha 0]

See, this flip-flopping on whether you see this as a real debate/discussion or something you're doing to pass time is just sloppy. Pick something and stick with it, at least then you'd have a chance at not seeming like you unfortunately stumbled into an argument with someone who, shockingly knows how to spell argument, and now find yourself in scramble mode to pull purpose out of coming to a board you left, to spend 5 pages going back and forth with a stupid person you don't care about.

 

I don't see any flip-flopping. You came to the board when Leena took over. Leena left and so did many others. You lamented over the fact the MMA board might be damaged for a while. I'm giving you a chance to vent at somebody rather than spend your triumphant return to the board in isolation, sitting back comfortably and looking for some signs of anything to amuse me. So far, you're failing dismally.

 

A couple of points for your amusement.

 

1. Arguement; The alternate spelling of the word 'argument' in British English, as with 'judgment' and 'judgement'. As they say, "If you don't tell a retard he's retarded, he'd never know." Well, we invented the language and giving civilised life to retards like you just to bastardise it, when we could have just left you be, it's a shame, really.

 

2. I didn't leave the board, genius. I've been here the entire time. I'm a MODERATOR on the board. Open your fucking eyes man. You're embarrassing yourself now. Step up your game. Face it, your entire credibility as an 'edgy' poster relies on picking fights with people and you're losing. You don't have many other alternate opponents. Elevate'cha game, son.

[Live Free or Battlenuts 0]

I don't see any flip-flopping. You came to the board when Leena took over. Leena left and so did many others. You lamented over the fact the MMA board might be damaged for a while. I'm giving you a chance to vent at somebody rather than spend your triumphant return to the board in isolation, sitting back comfortably and looking for some signs of anything to amuse me. So far, you're failing dismally.

 

See that's the point. It's not isolation, because YOU HAVEN'T LEFT. I still get my MMA news from the same places I got it before, but welcome to a month ago. This isn't about venting, this is trying to explain that spreading the notion of this board being "dead" because you all left is hilarious on numerous levels, the most obvious one being that you guys are still coming here. What's worse is the attempt to run from that original point to you "humoring me" and just 'playing along'. Playing doesn't take as much effort as you're exerting.

 

1. Arguement; The alternate spelling of the word 'argument' in British English, as with 'judgment' and 'judgement'. As they say, "If you don't tell a retard he's retarded, he'd never know." Well, we invented the language and giving civilised life to retards like you just to bastardise it, when we could have just left you be, it's a shame, really.

 

I'm sorry did you not hear about the war? We won America, and the rights to the language. The perks were making it terribly confusing for other people to learn and removing all the useless e's and u's you guys had added for some reason. By the way, we go with z's now in our 'izes'. What kind of history are they teaching you over there....

 

2. I didn't leave the board, genius. I've been here the entire time. I'm a MODERATOR on the board. Open your fucking eyes man.

 

Says the man trying to convince me I'm isolated because everyone left. Forgetting the fact that you, for some reason, didn't post for about a week after it all went down, and even possibly 4-5 times tops until this thread, all the hypocrisy and retardation is making opening my eyes a repeated let down.

 

You're embarrassing yourself now. Step up your game. Face it, your entire credibility as an 'edgy' poster relies on picking fights with people and you're losing. You don't have many other alternate opponents. Elevate'cha game, son.

 

And we come right back to the crux of it all.

 

I'm not going for "credibility" on this here message board, or the "image" of an "edgy poster". It's for the same reason I've put those words in quotations, because this is a MESSAGE BOARD. A fictional land of discussion that doesn't mean shit. And the people who 'left' we're the people that couldn't grasp that. They needed to pull friendship and meaning from it, tossing meaningless awards back and forth at eachother in an attempt to validate themselves. It led to nothing but xenophobia and a rash of asinine inside jokes that did nothing but turn everyone new off. To suggest this board is worse off because of them 'leaving' is stupid, and should be treated as such.

 

I get it, you think I'm just a big mean bully who needs to be put in his place, and you're the man to do it. But I'm just a man with a point, and you don't bring shit to the table. So ditch the fantasy, go pick up a history book to get caught up on what we talked about before, and just make some quick short post about how I'm gay that symbolizes how you've decided this wasn't even worth it. I'll be nice and play along for ya.

[TheFranchise 0]

Jesus Christ, I was going to make a comment regarding Battlenuts noting somebody's suggestion that the board is now dead because they went elsewhere..

 

There have been over 15,000 posts over at TRTSM since it began 22 days ago.

 

Granted, 775 of them have been mine, but, still.

 

Even this place in its hayday wasn't getting that.

[TheFranchise 0]

I'm only the 43rd highest poster here. That's a bummer.

[King Cucaracha 0]

This isn't about venting, this is trying to explain that spreading the notion of this board being "dead" because you all left is hilarious on numerous levels, the most obvious one being that you guys are still coming here. What's worse is the attempt to run from that original point to you "humoring me" and just 'playing along'. Playing doesn't take as much effort as you're exerting.

 

I established that point and moved on because you're clearly in denial. Or confused about the workings of a message board.

 

I'm sorry did you not hear about the war? We won America, and the rights to the language. The perks were making it terribly confusing for other people to learn and removing all the useless e's and u's you guys had added for some reason. By the way, we go with z's now in our 'izes'. What kind of history are they teaching you over there....

 

There wouldn't have needed to be a War Of Independence if we'd let you be was my point, but way to miss it.

 

Says the man trying to convince me I'm isolated because everyone left. Forgetting the fact that you, for some reason, didn't post for about a week after it all went down, and even possibly 4-5 times tops until this thread, all the hypocrisy and retardation is making opening my eyes a repeated let down.

 

Research. You're back to caring, I like it. Yeah, I was busy at another board, you might have heard of it. But I never left. There was nothing for me to post about during those days, since the board consisted of Leena taking over, bunch of drama, nothing, retard fight between you and EHME. Now that's dealt with, it can be salvaged. And maybe you'll have even more people to get into groundhog fights with in No Holds Barred. Until then, I'm here for you.

 

I'm not going for "credibility" on this here message board, or the "image" of an "edgy poster".

 

Phew.

 

It's for the same reason I've put those words in quotations, because this is a MESSAGE BOARD. A fictional land of discussion that doesn't mean shit.

 

You sure seem to take things mighty personally though.

 

And the people who 'left' we're the people that couldn't grasp that. They needed to pull friendship and meaning from it, tossing meaningless awards back and forth at eachother in an attempt to validate themselves. It led to nothing but xenophobia and a rash of asinine inside jokes that did nothing but turn everyone new off. To suggest this board is worse off because of them 'leaving' is stupid, and should be treated as such.

 

See what I mean? "This message board doesn't mean shit, that's why I've got such a grudge with the people who wronged me and then left when I got here!" Get over it. And again, you clearly don't 'get' message boards. If you think this message board is better off without 9/10ths of the messages that would have been posted on the board, you're mistaken. It's 'better off' for you because these nasty people that 'don't matter' have gone, giving you a 'victory', which by the way doesn't matter. You keep pointing this out and nobody has agreed with you yet. Doesn't that tell you ANYTHING? Let me guess your response, "they're all idiots, I'm the only one talking sense."

 

But I'm just a man with a point

 

If only.

[Live Free or Battlenuts 0]

I established that point and moved on because you're clearly in denial. Or confused about the workings of a message board.

 

The entire point was you don't have a point, or can't choose what it is. If that's how you think message boards work, I am confused. Mostly about what drugs your parents would have to take to produce someone so lost.

 

There wouldn't have needed to be a War Of Independence if we'd let you be was my point, but way to miss it.

 

Really?! That was the point you were trying to make by presenting the english spelling of things as the "civilized" life we were blessed to be given by you? You didn't give us anything but a a country full on native american graves to build on, the rest we collectively beat from you, including the language. That why the spell check on my computer get's so confused when it see's colour.

 

Research. You're back to caring, I like it.

 

No, I see where you're confused, but it's called having a point and backing it up. You'll get it over time. Two clicks on a mouse don't equate to care.

 

Yeah, I was busy at another board, you might have heard of it. But I never left. There was nothing for me to post about during those days, since the board consisted of Leena taking over, bunch of drama, nothing, retard fight between you and EHME.

 

You mean every thread that was on the board prior to leena was deleted? I never knew that. It seemed like the only thing different was the number of self-important douche-bags.

 

Now that's dealt with, it can be salvaged. And maybe you'll have even more people to get into groundhog fights with in No Holds Barred. Until then, I'm here for you.

 

Oh thank god you're here to salvage the board. We had a fine ship and the people ruining it jumped off. There's no salvage needed, we're lean and sailing light. Now that you don't have to be a clone to get on board I'm sure we will have a lot more people too. I'm glad you're here for me but like I said before, flattered but not interested.

 

You sure seem to take things mighty personally though.

 

I take all assaults on reason personally. Someone's gotta fight the good fight.

 

See what I mean? "This message board doesn't mean shit, that's why I've got such a grudge with the people who wronged me and then left when I got here!"

 

Again with being confused. Not them, I hold no grudge against them, they operate how they were created. It's the continuing suggestion from people like you that this board is worse off because they're not here, that this board is "dead" without the fools who were killing it. That's my problem, that's what I feel the need to discuss. Holding a grudge against sad idiots with sad lives is like holding a grudge against the Jews for having a huge dick.

 

Get over it.

 

We're all trying but you're making it hard.

 

And again, you clearly don't 'get' message boards. If you think this message board is better off without 9/10ths of the messages that would have been posted on the board, you're mistaken.

 

When those posts were the posts of a group of friends who created such a sense of isolation that there was no hope of a prospering membership, it's quite better without them. Message boards are supposed to be open to as many differing forms of opinion as possible, it's what keeps discussion going. Having a group of BUTT-buddies agree with each other over and over just makes it look like a D&D game in someone's basement.

 

It's 'better off' for you because these nasty people that 'don't matter' have gone, giving you a 'victory',

 

The victory only comes when threads like this stop being made and people spend there posts actually discussing something other than how no one's posting. Trying to feel victorious on people who've already been beaten by life isn't something I'm into.

 

which by the way doesn't matter. You keep pointing this out and nobody has agreed with you yet. Doesn't that tell you ANYTHING? Let me guess your response, "they're all idiots, I'm the only one talking sense."

 

See when you have a point, know it's right, and know how to back it up, the last thing you concern yourself with is who's agreeing with you. I'm sure you love the validation of seven people posting after you with some truly lame, extended inside-joke, but it doesn't do it for me. Considering the only other person talking in this thread is an idiot, the last part does actually work.

 

I've stated and restated my point, you've gone from disagreeing, to playing a game, to humoring me, to killing time, to... I'm guessing something new by your next post. It was a little fun at first but now it's beyond sad. Go be a moderator and be thankful I've come out of this just feeling sorry for you.

[King Cucaracha 0]

That why the spell check on my computer get's so confused when it see's colour.

 

How's that spell-check workin' for ya?

 

I think it's clear now that we've reached the point where you've bored everyone into submission by repeating the same old shit over and over, oblivious to the fact you're all alone in believing it, and all of this back and forth quoting and reading of mass posts is becoming quite tiresome. You've obviously got deep rooted issues with those that have left that aren't going to be dealt with here. So if you want to go back to condensing this shit into one, maybe two paragraphs, that'd be neat. I'm sure you'll claim this as a 'victory' over me, but you've been claiming it for the past 12 posts despite the fact that this 'point' you've posted and reposted has no substance or validity, so go nuts if it makes your e-dick hard.

 

But, what the hell.

 

The victory only comes when threads like this stop being made and people spend there posts actually discussing something other than how no one's posting.

 

If the board really were better than ever as you endlessly claim, you wouldn't have needed to make this point.

[Live Free or Battlenuts 0]

God you make it so easy. Did you really think that sentence wasn't intentional? I actually had hopes for you on that one. Silly me, not even skilled at a game you started. Try not to internalise the pain you feel right now. It's bad for your colour.

 

I think it's clear now that we've reached the point where you've bored everyone into submission by repeating the same old shit over and over, oblivious to the fact you're all alone in believing it, and all of this back and forth quoting and reading of mass posts is becoming quite tiresome.

 

I've been told idiots find reading hard, never had the proof. I'd love to not be forced to repeat myself, but well, I'm talking to you. I figure simple techniques on a simple mind.

 

You've obviously got deep rooted issues with those that have left that aren't going to be dealt with here.

 

See this would fly if a lot of them weren't buddies with my other name. It's amazing getting to see both sides of the fence. The 'BUTT-hurt' don't relish in the phony friendships they've forged.

 

So if you want to go back to condensing this shit into one, maybe two paragraphs, that'd be neat.

 

You're gonna need to slow down the rate of 'retarded things per sentence' for me to do that.

 

I'm sure you'll claim this as a 'victory' over me,

 

There's no victory over the victims of life. I just feel bad for you at this point.

 

but you've been claiming it for the past 12 posts despite the fact that this 'point' you've posted and reposted has no substance or validity,

 

No substance of validity, and you struggle to show otherwise. If my point is useless, someone who can't properly point that out must be even more useless, right?

 

so go nuts if it makes your e-dick hard.

 

I'm not into the circle jerk thing, but thanks for the veiled invitation.

[King Cucaracha 0]

Yeah, that's all ignorable. "Duh, you're an idiot!" You add nothing.

 

You want to know why your point is flawed? Besides the obvious, less posters equals less traffic equals less board value equals board worse off? You keep claiming that the message board was being 'killed' by the old regime because of their 'xenophobia'. This is, apparantly, because they were scaring off posters. So basically your arguement is "they're bad, because they're limiting the amount of people active on the board". And yet you claim that the board is now better because about 5 times as many people as those being 'driven off' have left the board? Does that not, in any way, seem contradictory? Your entire point is that the old regime were limited board activity. But board activity doesn't matter! But they're bad because they're picking on people who try to do it!! But it doesn't mean shit anyway!!! The only difference in the two groups is that the group of posters you don't agree with have left. And THAT's the real point here. You're just not willing to admit it.

 

Message boards are driven by activity. And right now, I, one of the dreaded "major leaguers" as you've dubbed me, am trying to boost activity, while you're wallowing in here just saying "the board's better now, the board's better now", hopelessly unaware that nobody believes you. Guess which one people have responded to? You know what, maybe your point is better than mine, I'm willing to conceed that. All you have to do is provide proof that your point is valid and you're only giving me your opinion, which is bias and not fact. I've started two topics in the WWE folder and there's more posters online and posting in that folder than there have been in days. You've posted in that folder more in the past couple of hours than in the last two days. So clearly us "major leaguers" must be bad for message boards and it's message boards are better off with less people posting less things, huh?

 

Maybe it's coincidence. Maybe you can prove it. Or maybe you'll call me an idiot and bury your head in the sand because people you dislike got 'served' by Leena and you find it amusing.

 

Also, yawn. This used to be fun, Live Free Or Battlenuts.

[Live Free or Battlenuts 0]

You want to know why your point is flawed? Besides the obvious, less posters equals less traffic equals less board value equals board worse off?

 

Yeah that works just fine if you wanna ignore the fact that membership was declining, visitors were declining, views were declining. There was no hope for growing. When they left, that problem left with them. The only thing prohibiting discussion now is Mike's inability to advertise and the fact that those here are more concerned with discussing the boards death than actual topics. It's sacrificing the present for the future, and considering the present of this board was nothing but a collective circle jerk, the future is looking much brighter. Brighter future = better board.

 

 

You keep claiming that the message board was being 'killed' by the old regime because of their 'xenophobia'. This is, apparantly, because they were scaring off posters. So basically your arguement is "they're bad, because they're limiting the amount of people active on the board". And yet you claim that the board is now better because about 5 times as many people as those being 'driven off' have left the board? Does that not, in any way, seem contradictory?

 

If you think they weren't doing anything wrong, of course it seems contradictory. If you cared about the board having a future of any kind, it seems more like a wonderful chance to forge a new board attitude that will actually lead to real activity.

 

 

Your entire point is that the old regime were limited board activity. But board activity doesn't matter! But they're bad because they're picking on people who try to do it!! But it doesn't mean shit anyway!!! The only difference in the two groups is that the group of posters you don't agree with have left. And THAT's the real point here. You're just not willing to admit it.

 

See that's what you don't get, I agreed with a lot of them on a number of things. It was the fact that THEY couldn't accept the few points of disagreement, not just from me but from anyone. That central problem was hurting the board, the board I care just enough about to discuss. Not to start tourney's or make up awards for myself or run and start a new board when I no longer had control, but just enough to discuss. Which is what I'm doing.

 

Message boards are driven by activity. And right now, I, one of the dreaded "major leaguers" as you've dubbed me, am trying to boost activity,

 

Activity will go nowhere until it's made clear differing opinions will be accepted by the people in charge. You can make all the threads you want but not being aware of the real problem and not doing what you can to change it just makes it seem like a waste, doesn't it?

 

while you're wallowing in here just saying "the board's better now, the board's better now", hopelessly unaware that nobody believes you.

 

Again, I know this is hard for you to grasp, but people who believe what they say don't look for constant approval. They find approval not in others agreeing with them, but the faith in their own logic.

 

Guess which one people have responded to? You know what, maybe your point is better than mine, I'm willing to conceed that.

 

You can't even concede that you left so I'm less than hopeful.

 

All you have to do is provide proof that your point is valid and you're only giving me your opinion, which is bias and not fact.

 

Look up.

 

I've started two topics in the WWE folder and there's more posters online and posting in that folder than there have been in days.

 

I don't know what's more impressive, your sense of self-importance or the utter delusion in thinking you've increased traffic. God I love to see numbers to prove that slice of crazy.

 

You've posted in that folder more in the past couple of hours than in the last two days.

 

Missed Raw and 45 minutes of ECW, wasn't much to talk about that. You made something worth discussing, shocking as it is, and I talked about it. It's what I've been doing since April 1st, but since you haven't been here, I can't expect you to know that can I?

 

So clearly us "major leaguers" must be bad for message boards and it's message boards are better off with less people posting less things, huh?

 

No, better off with less self important assholes creating an isolated playground for agreement. Less posts will always be a good thing when those posts were creating a problem that was leading to less everything.

 

Maybe it's coincidence. Maybe you can prove it. Or maybe you'll call me an idiot and bury your head in the sand because people you dislike got 'served' by Leena and you find it amusing.

 

Leena didn't serve anyone. She was simply the shining example of what babies do when you take away their rattle. It was about as amusing as watching a snake eat a mouse. You already know what's gonna happen, where's the fun?

[King Cucaracha 0]

See now we're kinda getting somewhere.

 

Yeah that works just fine if you wanna ignore the fact that membership was declining, visitors were declining, views were declining. There was no hope for growing. When they left, that problem left with them. The only thing prohibiting discussion now is Mike's inability to advertise and the fact that those here are more concerned with discussing the boards death than actual topics. It's sacrificing the present for the future, and considering the present of this board was nothing but a collective circle jerk, the future is looking much brighter. Brighter future = better board.

 

Fair enough. But for the board to be better, then surely the alternative, Leena, would have gone some way to improving all these things that were declining? That didn't happen. So if the things that were bad haven't improved then how can it be 'better'? There's no evidence to suggest that membership, vistors and views had improved under Leena or since the 'Maff guys' have left. Anyone could have seen that handing the board over to Leena was risky at best and going to provoke the reaction it did at worst. And it's clearly not just the Maff guys who weren't thrilled at the prospect of someone as blatantly and self-awaringly volatile as Leena taking over. The fact is, even if Leena did have high hopes for this place, at least some of the reason for giving the board to her seems to me to have been to 'show' the Maff guys. Otherwise, why Leena? Why knowingly create the hassle? That's what happened and if this is considered 'job done' as you seem to believe, I don't see the benefit of the job. After all that happened, if you really blame those guys for going and starting their own board, you're clearly letting bias cloud your arguement.

 

I've been here for 7 years. I've never, ever AIMed or chatted or whatever with anyone who was a mod here. I'm not part of any clique. I barely ventured below the bottom of the board for most of my time here. I didn't leave due to 'clique loyalty', 'community', 'circle jerks', any of that. I did it because I knew their board would be a better healthier place for discussion that here. I've never had a problem with being an 'outsider' or having 'different views'. I just don't go around getting into arguements at the drop of a hat and posting stupid shit that's guaranteed to start up pointless flame wars. You can't tell me that everyone who's left has done so because they're part of an evil group of elite clique members. Good, sensible posters saw the tides changing and went with it. To paraphrase a slogan, "280 people can't be wrong".

 

See that's what you don't get, I agreed with a lot of them on a number of things. It was the fact that THEY couldn't accept the few points of disagreement, not just from me but from anyone. That central problem was hurting the board, the board I care just enough about to discuss. Not to start tourney's or make up awards for myself or run and start a new board when I no longer had control, but just enough to discuss. Which is what I'm doing.

 

I can kinda guess the subtext here. If you're referring to the Worst Poster stuff... well, I can't say as I'm on either side or the other. A tournament for a banning was stupid. The person they banned should have been banned straight off, not because he 'disagreed' but because his differing opinions were doing a better job of ruining and disuading other opinions than this percieved threat from those guys. If that's not what you meant, even so, point stands.

 

Activity will go nowhere until it's made clear differing opinions will be accepted by the people in charge. You can make all the threads you want but not being aware of the real problem and not doing what you can to change it just makes it seem like a waste, doesn't it?

 

Again, I've never experienced all of these problems with 'differing opinions'. So it can't have been that bad, surely?

 

Again, I know this is hard for you to grasp, but people who believe what they say don't look for constant approval. They find approval not in others agreeing with them, but the faith in their own logic.

 

People used to believe the world was flat. Doesn't mean they were right.

 

I don't know what's more impressive, your sense of self-importance or the utter delusion in thinking you've increased traffic. God I love to see numbers to prove that slice of crazy.

 

Oh come on, you didn't really think I was super-serious about the poster numbers, did you? There's more posts in the folder than there were before. That's true. Everything else, if you really think I take myself that seriously you really haven't been paying attention.

 

Missed Raw and 45 minutes of ECW, wasn't much to talk about that. You made something worth discussing, shocking as it is, and I talked about it. It's what I've been doing since April 1st, but since you haven't been here, I can't expect you to know that can I?

 

Exactly. If you didn't think making topics worth discussing was worthwhile, you wouldn't have posted in them. And yet instead of making these topics, proving the board's still here, you're content to say "it is here, see!" and point to... nothing.

 

You've added more to the board with those two posts than you ever did posting "the board's not dead" in here where no-one's seeing it.

 

And THAT is the point I should have made as my first post in the thread before I got punch-drunk with this, because THAT is what annoyed me in the first place. Then you did something stupid and I've spent two days toying around instead. If I thought this would register I might be happy. As it is we'll probably keep going back and forth forever and ever, so again I ask, let's mix it up, shall we.

[Live Free or Battlenuts 0]

Fair enough. But for the board to be better, then surely the alternative, Leena, would have gone some way to improving all these things that were declining? That didn't happen.

 

Considering her history there's major reason to doubt her intentions were beyond winning a dick measuring contest. She still had a point.

 

So if the things that were bad haven't improved then how can it be 'better'?

 

Because the improvement was this place having a chance at growing. If you were an aware gecko with cancer in your tail, you'd cut it off and assume the next one had to be better. It was going nowhere, now, if people put half as much care into some of the lame shit done around here as they do just discussing things, it's got no limit.

 

There's no evidence to suggest that membership, vistors and views had improved under Leena or since the 'Maff guys' have left.

 

When did I say she increased anything? I said they were decreasing it.

 

Anyone could have seen that handing the board over to Leena was risky at best and going to provoke the reaction it did at worst.

 

And the reaction alone is half the point. They were so up in arms regardless of nothing being changed that they went and started a new board called "the real tsm". I'm not gonna say selling the board to Leena was a good idea but the result was beneficial, and this place is better off.

 

And it's clearly not just the Maff guys who weren't thrilled at the prospect of someone as blatantly and self-awaringly volatile as Leena taking over.

 

Yeah I'm sure the mass panic and resulting PM fest had nothing to do with it. They told everyone the world was going to end and it didn't. Anyone clinging to the nuts of that group couldn't be considered too much of a loss anyway.

 

The fact is, even if Leena did have high hopes for this place, at least some of the reason for giving the board to her seems to me to have been to 'show' the Maff guys. Otherwise, why Leena? Why knowingly create the hassle?

 

I'm guessing Mike didn't negatively idolize her the way you guys did. She was just a person with a computer, and when she became a person with a computer who had money, and the current staff was increasingly looking like a free mason fan club, I can see how he ended up where he did.

 

That's what happened and if this is considered 'job done' as you seem to believe, I don't see the benefit of the job. After all that happened, if you really blame those guys for going and starting their own board, you're clearly letting bias cloud your arguement.

 

Blame them? No, if you told me Mike was gonna sell her the board I could of pegged every happening down to the choice of "the real tsm" as a name. They over-reacted like bitches, and knowing they were bitches made that predictable. What wasn't predictable was some of the few who seemingly had sense and stayed needing to know what the drama is. The drama is gone. All that remains is people who want to come back and talk about how dead the place is for some strange added sense of victory over themselves. It was funny, now it's sad.

 

I've been here for 7 years. I've never, ever AIMed or chatted or whatever with anyone who was a mod here. I'm not part of any clique. I barely ventured below the bottom of the board for most of my time here. I didn't leave due to 'clique loyalty', 'community', 'circle jerks', any of that. I did it because I knew their board would be a better healthier place for discussion that here.

 

Healthier is the exact opposite of what it is though. Healthy discussion is varied, diverse, and encouraged to be so. They promoted an environment based on the opposite idea. So to think the result of them removing themselves from what little diversity there was left is a "healthier" place for discussion, is just retarded. Hence my use of the word.

 

I've never had a problem with being an 'outsider' or having 'different views'.

 

That's what banning and out-casting everyone who disagrees with you will do. You were a good clone, pat yourself on the back.

 

I just don't go around getting into arguements at the drop of a hat

 

What am I reading again!?

 

and posting stupid shit that's guaranteed to start up pointless flame wars. You can't tell me that everyone who's left has done so because they're part of an evil group of elite clique members. Good, sensible posters saw the tides changing and went with it. To paraphrase a slogan, "280 people can't be wrong".

 

The nazi army had how many people in it? I've already said, there's no difference between a person and the crabs on their taint. It's a funner slogan than "280 people can't be wrong", and slightly less offensive to holocaust survivors.

 

I can kinda guess the subtext here. If you're referring to the Worst Poster stuff... well, I can't say as I'm on either side or the other. A tournament for a banning was stupid. The person they banned should have been banned straight off, not because he 'disagreed' but because his differing opinions were doing a better job of ruining and disuading other opinions than this percieved threat from those guys. If that's not what you meant, even so, point stands.

 

People like Marvin need to be ignored, too many people got a sense of gratification from continuing arguments with him when he had clearly crossed the line from differing to inflammatory. He was only an issue because you guys made him an issue. Having a tournament to ban people speaks for itself.

 

Again, I've never experienced all of these problems with 'differing opinions'. So it can't have been that bad, surely?

 

I was ok to be here when I disagreed with EHME, but the second I differed with Milky, everyone's favorite poster of the month, I had crossed that line. Why would that be? I've never questioned anything with my other name other than what's already been questioned, and that name's been befriended by the same people that think I'm so evil. You can do the math on that.

 

People used to believe the world was flat. Doesn't mean they were right.

 

And how does that relate at all? The world being flat used to be widely accepted until one man who had nothing but the faith in his own logic convinced the world otherwise. Are you trying to help me make my point?

 

Oh come on, you didn't really think I was super-serious about the poster numbers, did you? There's more posts in the folder than there were before. That's true. Everything else, if you really think I take myself that seriously you really haven't been paying attention.

 

Before what? Two weeks ago we had a 5-6 page Raw thread, you, for some reason, weren't here for it, I understand, but it wasn't exactly presented in a comedic light and, for some reason, I only find your posts funny when you don't seem to be trying.

 

Exactly. If you didn't think making topics worth discussing was worthwhile, you wouldn't have posted in them. And yet instead of making these topics, proving the board's still here, you're content to say "it is here, see!" and point to... nothing.

 

Making topics and posting in a topic are two very different beasts. I'm not going around creating threads to claim my own traffic as some sign of life. My point is, and has been, that the forum hasn't changed. All those threads people we're posting in are still here. All the forums are still here. The only thing that's gone are the people who were making it a shitty environment that was dwindling not growing. That's my problem with the constant talk of "what happened" and "tsm is dead". Dead things go away. TSM is still here.

 

You've added more to the board with those two posts than you ever did posting "the board's not dead" in here where no-one's seeing it.

 

I'm talking to you. I'm not hoping to draw an audience. I know it's hard not relating a conversation to wrestling, and I'm sure me calling you an idiot and retard made it even harder, but we're just talking. Discussing. Sharing ideas. I'll admit I do it with a little more bite than most people, but people are used to certain things and it's easier to play into certain things than change the world.

 

And THAT is the point I should have made as my first post in the thread before I got punch-drunk with this, because THAT is what annoyed me in the first place.

 

That I spent my time here as opposed to entirely in other forums? I'm all over the place buddy, if you miss me talking topics and not tsm, go look around. I'm finally glad we've reached you're point.

 

Then you did something stupid and I've spent two days toying around instead.

 

And then you go ruin it. If all your toys treat you like this, may I suggest, for your own safety; don't play with toys.

 

If I thought this would register I might be happy. As it is we'll probably keep going back and forth forever and ever, so again I ask, let's mix it up, shall we.

 

There is no mixing it up, this isn't a wrestling match and we're not calling spots. I brought a point, you didn't, I explained my point, you explained nothing and then eventually found a point... that you can't explain. I can do this forever, I type oddly fast and aside from the brief interruptions of crying girls looking for advice and my bowel movements, I'll come back to discuss this. Because as surprising as it seems at times, we... are at a discussion forum.

[King Cucaracha 0]

The fact you keep referring to me as one of "you people" pretty much says it all. You're clearly ignoring everything that's being said or is going on due to steadfast bias, so I'm through. I admire your conviction and stubborness, but I'm finally sick of going round in circles with someone unable to accept when he's wrong. You pretend like you don't care, but you do. The very fact you've got an "other name" to hide behind to stick around these "you people" proves it. The fact you came back here when you heard the old regime were gone instead of moving on and getting over it proves it. I really don't need to say more than that, you've said it all yourself.

 

The stark realisation is, I just don't give a shit. I've tried a bunch of things to make this mess worth anyone's while but you're so obsessed with being right and making a point, it ain't working. That stuff works in CE. NHB, it's no fun. So, we're done.

[Live Free or Battlenuts 0]

The fact you keep referring to me as one of "you people" pretty much says it all.

 

If you say the same shit they do and believe the same shit they do, why should I not classify you with them?

 

You're clearly ignoring everything that's being said

 

Really, then why did I quote everything you said? Why did I respond after every question you posed? We both know if I ignored what you said it wouldn't of been in my post. I responded DIRECTLY to what you said.

 

or is going on due to steadfast bias, so I'm through. I admire your conviction and stubborness, but I'm finally sick of going round in circles with someone unable to accept when he's wrong.

 

Come anywhere near making the point that I am wrong, and you'd be surprised what I'm willing to accept.

 

You pretend like you don't care, but you do.

 

Never said I don't. I do care. Just enough to spend 5 minutes posting.

 

The very fact you've got an "other name" to hide behind to stick around these "you people" proves it.

 

No that proves those people are hypocrites. The only thing that makes me different is what I agree with. It's a wonderful way to prove a point and still get MMA news.

 

The fact you came back here when you heard the old regime were gone

 

Incorrect. I never left. Last time this name was here, Czech approved it.

 

instead of moving on and getting over it proves it.

 

Proves what? You finally decided what your point was in the middle of abandoning it? You have to have a point to prove it. You can't prove bullshit. That's why they call it bullshit, not provableshit.

 

I really don't need to say more than that, you've said it all yourself.

 

Yeah I was trying to. Shit clique leaves forum, forum has brighter future. Glad we're finally agreeing. Let's not pretend this giant white flag you waved is anything but though. I didn't suddenly become stubborn and we both know there's nothing I didn't answer. So congrats on wasting all that time on doing nothing but showing me when pressed to back something up you'll fold quicker than my laundry.

[Art Sandusky 0]

What a fuckin' mess. Both of you need to get laid or something. Start smoking, I dunno. Anything's better than this.

[Live Free or Battlenuts 0]

As I type this, pussy juice is drying on my cock while I roll a joint. This place is still the gay brother of uselessness, and more alive than Andy Dick's pants at the sight of Zach Efron. Word to your brother.

[GIYGAS 0]

...

 

... friends ...

 

... this thread is ghey ... is ghey ... is ghey ...

[King Cucaracha 0]

My mistake was trying.

[Live Free or Battlenuts 0]

And there's the title to your autobiography.

 

See, you achieved something after all.

[TheFranchise 0]

Battlenuts, how are you?

[Live Free or Battlenuts 0]

Hungover as fuck, and wondering why the girl I hooked up with last night only has a phone number with 6 digits, one of which looks more like a W than any numerical symbol I've ever encountered.

 

She was fun as shit, and had those floppy, wonderful tits that you just wanna put in a headlock and bite. Now I may never get to shave my head and tuck it under one to see what kind of hat it makes in the winter. I must make calls and right this situation.

 

In other news, Red Baron makes some pretty decent frozen pizza. I'm usually going with Tony's or Tombstone but it was on sale and I gotta say, I'm not disappointed. I gotta see if they have those individual deep dish ones.

 

How are you this weekend Franchise, anything new in the land of loo's and biscuits?