iliketurtles

You gave the same rating for the ironman as I did. Good review.

http://www.pwtorch.com/artman/publish/arti...icle_5354.shtml AHAHAHAHA. WOW. He talks about critisms in the match, yet he gives it *****? Uh huh.

Yeah, one decent match with Kane back in 2001 that no one remembers. And wasn't that the match Albert won the IC title? *shocked* No wonder it was good!

Link me. I need a good laugh.

I prefer to watch a 20-30 minute match then a 45 minute match with a bunch of stalling and Lesnar doing the same thing over and over again.

*seen the match* A-Train sucks. Just because Benoit got a few decent matches out of him doesn't make him great. And to think people call him the Vader of 2003. HA.

I think they are going to feud Cena with Angle so he can prep for his Mania feud with Rock. At least that's what I'd do.

I'd rather sit and watch their Summerslam match again then their Smackdown match. And of course I'm going to like it better...20 minute of commercials will be cut off.

How do you know he doesn't read here?

But that was when A-Train was IC champ, so he had a right to bust his fat ass...and Kane had a few good matches in 2001 too. I bet you can't think of any more matches other then the forgettable Kane one that was decent with A-Train, minus the 5 minute matches with Benoit on SD.

Boy when you hate a ***1/2...I'd hate to see what happens when you're forced to watch a ** And is that ***1/2 on the TV scale? I don't hate ***1/2, but when you already have that prejudice comparasion like we all do for Brock/Angle, you are bound to be dissapointed. ***1/2 is on a regular scale. I don't go by TV scales. If the match is ***** whether it's on no TV or in front of 80,000 people...i'ts *****. That doesn't make it MOTYC, but that's a whole other thread.

Taker was the one who pulled a *** match out of Cena. Not the other way around. And Cena + Lesnar is terrible, doesn't matter if Cena has a cold. I want to see Cena pushed, but there is no justification for a push based on workrate. As for this match I would put it ***. I didn't go in with high expectations (I thought WM was overrated), and the match didn't do anything to bring me in and change my mind. Having taped it, hoping for more, I am certainly not going to ever watch it again. They should have saved the third installment of this feud for a year or so, until Lesnar got some experience. This just seemed so paint by numbers. Where was the **** match UT pulled out of A-Train if he had this mystical power? Hey, I haven't seen Brock, Angle, Benoit, or Edge pull out a classic with A-Train so you should bring down Taker because of his shit match at Summerslam. A-Train sucks.

You know Keith is reading this board right now to see what we are saying... He just doesn't want to say ****1/2 when everyone else is saying ***1/2 and under.

See Ric Flair vs Jimmy Garvin GABash 87- Flair grabs the rope, Tommy Young kicks his hand away, says you have to be wrapped in the rope, not touching it. Yeah, but look at the hundreds and hundreds of times where the guy touches the rope and is forced to break the hold.

That's what I hate about Meltzer...he shouldn't be going on fans opinions of the match and saying on his site that it's a "MOTYC" when it's not even close. I was more into HHH/Flair on Raw then this match.

Mania was **** even, MAYBE **** 1/4 if you don't count the ending. Summerslam...I'd have to watch again because I was fliriting with a bunch of girls and wasn't paying attention. Finish was retarted, but seemed around ***1/4. This was one was ***1/2, and I doubt I'll change that.

And Angle is a gold medal winner, yet he didn't showcase any of that skill in this match. He just was mainly using "professional wrestling" moves.

I don't think it matters at this point. Angle would most likely go onto Cena while Taker goes onto Lesnar.

Also that Lesnar/Angle was in front of 55,000 people...and at Wrestlemania which adds more of a big match feel to it, but I think Banky hit it irght on the head.

Then they should of done the mat work at the beginning...like Angle/Benoit at Mania 17...THEN do the slow paced pounding and stuff.

I just hope this match shuts everyone up about Angle/Lesnar being the main event at Mania 20. They should do something else because I really don't care about having these two guys go at it again. And I'd have to watch the Mania match again to give you specific examples why it was ****. I think a lot of people tool on that match because of the botch ending, but the match itself had a decent feel to it.

I just hope this match shuts everyone up about doing Brock/Angle at Mania 20.

Considering their Mania match was above **** and Angle was all fucked up, I'd say they could of achieved a lot more in future matches. And considering the hype given to it.

We should make a list of what SHOULD of happened: -Amateur wrestling sequence -The murder death kill german (Brock could of taken it if Angle couldn't of) -Brock NOT tapping out at all...he should of learned from his Summerslam match and he won't tap out again. -Having Angle work the ribs (which has been a thorn in Brock's side forever) instead of the flippy floppy pyschology. I'm sure there's more.

Brock wasn't ready to go the distance...it should of been 30 minutes, unedited. And having no amateur stuff pissed me off, considering it was 60 minutes.