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No, please for the love of God NO NO NO AND NO! That's just another example of a feud being about the divas, and not the wrestlers. I do think that's what will end up happening though. It will either be that, or Melina or Jillian getting another team to face the curent duo. But again, it will be all about the divas feuding.
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Well I get the entire thing about them being a "real" tag team, something that we almost never get. I just don't see anything special about them in the ring. When I see them on TV, I see any number of tag teams that I have seen at local indie shows. I just don't see anything special about them in the ring. I want tag teams once again as much as the next guy. I miss the days of when the tag team straps actually meant something. Where guys would spend the majority of their careers being a member of a tag team, and only after a succesful tag team career, then would they move on to singles, never to really go back to the tag division. I miss the oldschool psychology of working a tag match also. The constant tags, cutting the ring in half, and all of that. Where I will give MNM credit is that they seem to have a basic handle on those last two points. Even in their match at the last PPV where they lost their straps, they were doing the constant tags for a while, cutting the ring in half keeping the other guy from making the tag, and it was looking good. They just need some more meat to their offense before I'll really be able to jump on board with them. Another reason I'm not too high on them, as mentioned by other people before me, is Melina. The gimmick of MNM isn't even about the tag team. It's just another example of WWE putting these cookie-cutter dime-a-dozen "divas" over the teams they are actually put with. I'll never understand why WWE pulls this bullshit. I know that Nitro can be entertaining as hell at least, so why in the world wont they let him, or his partner, do too much more than making faces in the back while Melina speaks? I like the look of MNM, I really do. I think they have a lot to offer the tag ranks that we haven't seen in a very long time, but as long as Melina, or some other woman, is with them, the focus will not be on the guys who really matter in my eyes. Speaking of Melina, I don't even think that gal is anything special at all. Ok, so she does a split type thing getting in the ring, YAY! Her mic work is ok I guess, but her looks don't really do anything much for me at all. There is just something about her face that really turns me off of her. Then we have yet ANOTHER bitch a part of this team, doing nothing but taking the attention off of the actual WRESTLERS. I am not about to get into everything I feel about this new factor, or I just might explode. Also, I think their gimmick "as is" is just too over the top. Please stop with the name dropping and all of that week after week. I hate that they are trying to play their gimmick off as totally real. What they should have done, had they wanted to go with the same entrance and everything, is have it be reveled at the very start of their run that Melina pays those photographers and everything to follow them around. It would have been a lot cooler to me if their gimmick was that they wanted to be Hollywood so much, that they paid people to follow them around and all of that, and they actually started believing that what they are pretending, is real. So, adding in that I don't see too much in MNM in the ring right now (which is more than likely not even their fault, almost everyone in WWE needs more meat added to their offense) to the fact that I am sick and fucking tired of women in wrestling being pushed instead of the wrestlers (Lita, you whore, I'm looking at you, as much as I hate Edge, it should be Kane vs. EDGE, not Kane vs. Lita!!!!!!). My hatred for quite a few things in wrestling today grows by the week. Then again, I guess seeing a character debut of a bitch with a pile of dog shit on the side of her face will do that to a guy.
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I don't understand all of the love for MNM either. I must say that I have only seen their work in WWE though.
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Someone from WrestlingClassics posted this:
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I'm just glad that I'm not the only one here who doesn't see Brock/Batista as some sort of "dream match".
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I indirectly did.
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It wasn't a huge deal to the entire country, but to wrestling fans it was "the" dream match that people had always wanted to see.
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I think it would be: Hogan/Andre Hogan/Flair Hogan/Rock and/or Hogan/Austin You see, this is another point. When you think of a list of the truly "big" wrestling matches, Hulk Hogan is a part of quite a few of them, and his name is always up at the top of the list. I would even add Hogan/Goldberg to that list somewhere, not at the top, but somewhere on there. Then you have Hogan/Warrior as well. How about Hogan/Savage? Not to mention Hogan/Sting, that one had some of the greatest buildup of all time. Even Hogan/Slaughter had a lot behind it going in.
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It should also be pointed out that Austin had to work his ass off to get noticed a lot more than Hogan did. When Hogan started out, he just fit the bill for what everyone was looking for back then. Once he started his career, and I'm talking about actual in-ring action not just training, he won his first major title (NWA South Eastern Heavyweight title) within a year or so, and then it was just a matter of time before he was WWF champ, only four years later. When Austin first started out, he hit the big stage in WCW pretty quickly, but he had to work a lot harder for things to fall in line for him, and then we all know how long it was before he won his first world title. My point, is that it was a much more uphill for Austin than it was for Hogan. You see, this is why I wish that the nWo and Austin vs. McMahon angles could have been going on at the exact same time.
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I have not said that Austin isn't insanely over when he makes his quick returns. I have however said that Hogan is a much bigger name than Austin as a whole.
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I understand that, but when he does come back, even if it is just because of his name, he is still in top. Not in the title sense, just in name value. I don't, in any way, think Hogan should literally be put on top again. Those days are long over with. He should only be used for the random "dream match" now. Even without including the past five years (even in that time though he was literally on top, even though I admit that really shouldn't have happened), you can not ignore all he did. His career really started in 79, and it went pretty strong up until 2000, with lows mixed in here and there.
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96-99 were great years in wrestling, and both men should get credit for making it all happen. Yes, Hogan has had downs in his career, but anyone with his staying power goes through the same thing. We should also start to include Flair in all of this. When his run started up, he went many years before he hit some sort of really major low.
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This is just blatant Hogan hate coming through. There is no question that he has been on top, in one way or another, since 1979.
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How is it even a question if Hogan was a draw for so many years? The guy has been insanely over since the very early 80's.
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It's hard to even compare the two even in this respect. Hogan's really big years in WCW were 96 and 97, and through that period Austin wasn't really on top, he had yet to hit the period where his big years took place. Then once Austin was actually having his biggest years, 98 and 99, Hogan (and WCW as a whole), were in a huge spiral. What would have been interesting would have been to see Hogan and his entire nWo deal go head to head with Austin and his McMahon feud. I have always wished that both angles could have taken place at the exact same time. It's not fair to say Hogan outdrew Austin in 96 and 97, and it's just as unfair to say that Austin outdrew Hogan in 98 and 99. The characters were not on the same level, nor were their respective companies. What is interesting however, is that when either guy was on the very top of their game, so was their company. Had Austin been able to hit it big earlier, and had his career been able to last longer, he could have had one hell of an amazing career.
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Hogan was on top, in one way or another, before WWF also. He really has been wrestling in main events, no matter what the company, for a very long time. I also don't think he's talking about just being the champ or whatever for that long. It's part that, and then also name value. He may not be champ now, but he really is on top even today just because of who he is. Hogan's name value >>>>>>>>>>>>> Austin's name value While Austin was great, I'm a huge mark for him, his name will not be remembered like Hogan. Don't think I totally take up for Hogan and dismiss Austin though. If it wasn't for Hogan, Flair, and other people, Austin could have been even bigger than he ended up. I'll always wonder what could have been with Austin. He was one of the best used, as well as one of the worst used wrestlers of all time.
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I can't believe it's been that long ago.
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How old is Reid now? 18, 19, 20?
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Wow. Batista looks like such a foolish tool on that cover.
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Couldn't they have said Taker couldn't get his shot because, well, HE KILLED A MAN? I hate it when they talk about contract bullshit after the fact.
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The Americanadians.
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And delicious.
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Ha, a fan grabbed a popcorn.
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The entire concept of MNM's gimmick is WC to me. It's just that much worse now.
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I can't believe we are getting these blurs.