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The Bemani Cross Wizards (Thoth and Ced Ordonez) v. Justice and Rule (Judge William Hearford III & Ejiro fasaki)
The masters have returned, and only a fool would wait to get them on television! JnR try to take the first step back to tag glory by roughing up the reformed BCW. 'nuff said.
Rules: Standard Tag Match
Word Limit: 5500
Send to: realitycheck
Prepare for some whoop-ass, people. Justice and Rule are back in action.
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I'm about as serious as the rest of this thread... you stupid commie
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Bah. Fucking liberal media. I'm not gonna trust it because it was on the damn Communist News Network.
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Because, if he wasn't thinking, if it was done on the spur of the moment and wasn't pre-meditated and simply escelated from there one could argue that second degree murder is more appropriate.
Is it possible to get murder one without premeditation? Or is murder one decided upon the nature of the crime and/or its intent?
I think they can pull a premeditation when he stepped over his body and went for the kill shot like he did.
And B-X, where the hell is your response to all this?
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Ah, I thought you were using the "Maybe he was fired on first" argument with that. Sorry there.
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From the brothers of Phi Mu Alpha Sinfonia, here's a hearty
FUCK YOU
Mr. Rogers was part of our fraternity, you twisted motherfucker. Just go to hell already.
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Yes, but competant legal counsel (Which Mumia took away from himself) could argue that he was acting out of his brother's defense in the first place
They tried to make this case and it didn't quite work, but there's some logic to it.
, and after he exchanged shots with Faulkner he was not in control of his actions and was acting out of self-preservation.I think this is near impossible to argue. Just how he stood over him and shot him in the face would be well over what one could consider self-defense.
Just to understand, though, I know that this isn't your view on the actual case at hand, your just suggesting a better defense for him.
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Then it comes down to the argument of "Does a police officer have the right to fire if he sees a guy with a gun running at him" which is not a good position, but better than the one he's currently in.
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*Shrugs* I dunno, I'm just telling you what I know. Maybe he wanted to kill him like that, standing over him and killing him with a shot to the head execution-style. Maybe he wanted to send a message with it and have it be symbolic rather than just killing him. But hey, this is all big speculation.
Tyler: I love you, too
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One question:
Did Faulkner have anything against the brothers prior to this? Because the prosecution uses the phrase "premeditated murder" several times when both theories seem to agree that the murder happened very quickly and in result to Faulkner pulling over his brother. How could that be pre-planned?
I think the fact that Mumia was sitting in a cab across the street lends itself to being a bit premeditated, but I'm not quite sure.
Tyler: Wow, you hold grudges for a long time, don't you?
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I've jobbed twice in the same night before twice! I am the engineer of my own train.
Once at From the Fire, but when else?
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The theory of him turning around and shooting the gun though with Mumia leaning forwards works much better than anything else suggested. I mean, if he spun around and he's right-handed it could easily block out all the view of the people on the right-side of him. And a quick shot before going down with Mumia leaning forwards from running could easily cause a downward angle for the shot. But again, it's all theory. Of course, one could say that maybe they were still a bit shocked at what was going on to take what's going on.
In all honesty, eyewitnesses are overrated. They often screw things up or miss things or stuff like that, but with the evidence given (Ballistics and the bullet itself) seems to point towards Mumia no matter what, and that's really something you can't dispute.
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Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... Where's our response?
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Just wanna say nice choice.
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Just to clarify, the only reason Mumia owned a gun was because he was employed as a cab driver at the time, and he had been robbed multiple times.
However, that Abu-Jamal owned was a .38 caliber pistol. The bullets they took out of Officer Faulkners body were from a .45 caliber pistol.
I could pull multiple sources for this allegation, but I imagine you guys would yell "OMFG VAST LEFTY NEWSOURCE ROFL!~@!"
Actually his defense lawyers admitted that not long ago that they were most likely from a .38 caliber weapon.
Edit: Here's the website. Of course I'm sure some of you will think it's biased, but they present a massive amount of evidence to prove their point. Feel free to try and refute the defense's own witness backing out on them.
And they claim it was a .44, not a .45.
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How so?
A lot of people agree he's the guy that set everything in motion for the Soviet Union to fall.
I think that the people of Russia and Germany deserve a little credit too.
For doing...?
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Guys, guys, you missed the other response to the questions as well:
http://timblair.spleenville.com/archives/004395.php
MOORE OF THE SAMEMichael Moore presumes to speak on behalf of the September 11 dead, and the whole of America:
I have seven questions for you, Mr Bush. I ask them on behalf of the 3,000 who died that September day, and I ask them on behalf of the American people. We seek no revenge against you.
That’s a relief. Although some Americans might still seek revenge against Moore for writing that hilarious satire of his on September 12. Following are Moore’s seven questions, extracted from his new book, Cashing In On Idiot Lefty Paranoia, now available wherever fools and their money can’t wait to be parted:
1. Is it true that the Bin Ladens have had business relations with you and your family off and on for the past 25 years?
Most Americans might be surprised to learn that you and your father have known the Bin Ladens for a long time. What, exactly, is the extent of this relationship, Mr Bush?
I remember reading something about Bush sending a whole army to kill bin Laden. I guess the relationship isn’t going so well.
2. What is the 'special relationship' between the Bushes and the Saudi royal family?
Mr Bush, the Bin Ladens are not the only Saudis with whom you and your family have a close personal relationship. The entire royal family seems to be indebted to you - or is it the other way round?
A major chunk of the American economy is built on Saudi money. They have a trillion dollars invested in our stock market and another trillion dollars in our banks. If they chose suddenly to remove that money, our corporations and financial institutions would be sent into a tailspin, causing an economic crisis the likes of which has never been seen. Couple that with the fact that the 1.5m barrels of oil we need daily from the Saudis could also vanish on a mere royal whim, and we begin to see how not only you, but all of us, are dependent on the House of Saud. George, is this good for our national security, our homeland security? Who is it good for? You? Pops?
A better question: is it good for Michael Moore? Three years ago Saudi billionaire Prince Alwaleed bin Talal invested $50 million in the Disney company, which is financing Moore’s next film. The Prince invested a similar amount in Amazon, which distributes Moore’s films and books, and has $1.05 billion in America Online -- with whom Moore has an account. Why, Moore is practically swimming in evil Saudi cash!
3. Who attacked the US on September 11 - a guy on dialysis from a cave in Afghanistan, or your friend, Saudi Arabia?
The headlines blared it the first day and they blare it the same way now two years later: "Terrorists Attack United States." Terrorists. I have wondered about this word for some time, so, George, let me ask you a question: if 15 of the 19 hijackers had been North Korean, rather than Saudi, and they had killed 3,000 people, do you think the headline the next day might have read, "NORTH KOREA ATTACKS UNITED STATES"? Of course it would. Or if it had been 15 Iranians or 15 Libyans or 15 Cubans, I think the conventional wisdom would have been, "IRAN [or LIBYA or CUBA] ATTACKS AMERICA!" Yet, when it comes to September 11, have you ever seen the headline, have you ever heard a newscaster, has one of your appointees ever uttered these words: "Saudi Arabia attacked the United States"?
Because Saudi Arabia didn’t attack the United States. Fifteen Saudis did, under the command of bin Laden. What’s so hard to understand about this?
4. Why did you allow a private Saudi jet to fly around the US in the days after September 11 and pick up members of the Bin Laden family and fly them out of the country without a proper investigation by the FBI?
Mikey gets one right! Well, partially right. Snopes explains.
5. Why are you protecting the Second Amendment rights of potential terrorists?
You can waive their Fourth Amendment protection from unlawful search and seizure, their Sixth Amendment rights to an open trial by a jury of their peers and the right to counsel, and their First Amendment rights to speak, assemble, dissent and practise their religion. You believe you have the right to just trash all these rights, but when it comes to the Second Amendment right to own an AK-47 - oh no! That right they can have - and you will defend their right to have it.
He’s unhappy when rights are denied and he’s unhappy when rights are upheld. Make up your mind, Keiko.
6. Were you aware that, while you were governor of Texas, the Taliban travelled to Texas to meet with your oil and gas company friends?
According to the BBC, the Taliban came to Texas while you were governor to meet with Unocal, the huge oil and energy giant, to discuss Unocal's desire to build a natural-gas pipeline running from Turkmenistan through Taliban-controlled Afghanistan and into Pakistan.
Mr Bush, what was this all about?
Ask Unocal.
7. What exactly was that look on your face in the Florida classroom on the morning of September 11 when your chief of staff told you, 'America is under attack'?
Your face went into a distant glaze, not quite a blank look, but one that seemed partially paralysed. No emotion was shown. And then ... you just sat there. You sat there for another seven minutes or so doing nothing.
George, what were you thinking? What did that look on your face mean?
Were you thinking you should have taken reports the CIA had given you the month before more seriously? You had been told al-Qaida was planning attacks in the United States and that planes would possibly be used.
Or were you just scared shitless?
Can you imagine people paying money to read this? These words actually subtract value from the paper they’re printed on. But just as Moore is seemingly all typed out, he suddenly has the most brilliant, perfect idea of his entire life:
I've always thought it was interesting that the mass murder of September 11 was allegedly committed by a multi-millionaire. We always say it was committed by a "terrorist" or by an "Islamic fundamentalist" or an "Arab", but we never define Osama by his rightful title: multi-millionaire. Why have we never read a headline saying, "3,000 Killed by multi-millionaire"? It would be a correct headline, would it not?
It would be, which is why some of us were writing it two years ago. But continue, please (and we’ll leave aside that only a few lines earlier you were doubting that a dialysis case in a cave could have planned September 11):
Osama bin Laden has assets totalling at least $30m; he is a multi-millionaire. So why isn't that the way we see this person, as a rich fuck who kills people? Why didn't that become the reason for profiling potential terrorists? Instead of rounding up suspicious Arabs, why don't we say, "Oh my God, a multi-millionaire killed 3,000 people! Round up the multi-millionaires! Throw them all in jail! No charges! No trials! Deport the millionaires!!"
Michael Moore is a millionaire. Round him up and deport him. He demands it.
(Via contributor Zsa Zsa, a clever white man.)
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It's called making up for a lack of talent by using famous people's names.
See also Al Franken.
Franken has more talent then your entire family. Stuart Smalley alone, deserves your respect. I may not agree with some of his political views (or your views for that matter) but I agree, that son of a bitch has a great sense of humor.
Agreed.
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He does have some good points.
Not really. He's just continually trying to hint at Bush being in cahoots with the terrorists in some way or another. Personally, I love how he tries to interpret Bush's face when he was told about 9-11. It's beautiful show of ego to watch the guy try to twist that to his own needs.
Edit: And just to note, I hear about this guy more than any of you could because I have a socialist Flint boy sharing my suite with me. Oh joy.
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Unbelievable. It's like equating the 9/11 terrorists attacks to a military operation.
There's a HUGE moral difference between specifically targeting a blowing up innocent children and then blowing up innocent rescue workers, and sending tanks in to cease those responsible and being met with resistance and unintentially harming some innocents. No comparison.
Dr. Tom, you are absolutely right. Too bad Israel is doing it too.
Wow, that's a real unbiased website there...
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Bodybag Match
English Dragon v. Crow
- I say Crow in this interesting stip.
? Match
Wildchild v. ?
- It's FOOG, damn it! Best mystery man EVER!
Non-title Tag Match
The Bemani Cross Wizards (Thoth and Ced Ordonez) v. Sin-Quizition (Quiz and John Duran)
- So jobber team vs. jobber team. Hmmm... j/k
. I say the Bemani Cross Wizards win this out since Duran and Quiz don't seem to be a pair that would blend well.Singles Match
Erek Taylor v. Xstasy
-You will ALL feel the power of X. (Y)
Hardcore Match
Bastion v. Va'aiga
- Hmm... I'm gonna pick Va'aiga on a guess, though Thugg beingz back to himself so he could easily take this
ICTV Singles Match
"The Franchise" Mak Francis v. "The Sacred One" Andrew Blackwell
- OMG REMATCH. Sacred to reassert himself after Genesis.
Elimination Triple Threat for the #1 Contendership to the World Title!
Dace Night v. Michael Craven v. Nathaniel Kibagami
- Kibs.
World Title Singles Match
The Boston Strangler v. "The Superior One" Tom Flesher
- Bah, this ME sucks. I say... Tom on a whim.
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Nice card!
*pencils Liston to go over.
Exactly why I wanted you to mark that match, Tod!
;)But anyways, I forgot to address this and I will right now:
Maddix I booked you against such a tough opponent like Aecas because I thought you were one of the few could really take him on. You stand a decent chance of winning here, man, so don't put yourself down. Just write out your heart and you may actually do it
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Time: Right after Genesis
Location: Madison Square Garden, New York, New York
*CRASH*
*CRASH*
*CRAAAAAAAASH!*
The sound of steel on steel echoes loudly in the empty locker room as a grey-haired old man flings a folding chair across the room in a fit of anger. The room is a wreck; dented lockers, scattered equipment, and assorted little broken pieces from whatever the old man could get his hands on after the match. He stops for a moment, panting, still angry at what happened.
“DAMN IT!” he breathes out, “I was so close… So close…”
The tortured man pounds a fist into another locker, leaving a small dent as the door behind him creaks open.
“Um…” says a slightly nervous chubby man as Hearford turns around, his anger still showing in his eyes, “I’m here to talk about that deal that we made a while back…”
Hearford’s eyes focus on the chubby man’s face and figure for a second before recognizing the man, and a sneer comes across his face.
“Yes, what do you want?” he asks snidely.
“Well, um…” he stammers, still a bit afraid after surveying the wreckage around him, “I was hoping to ask you how your progress on your end of the deal was going, since I’ve finished mine and all…”
The Judge scoffs and glares at the shorter man. “I got her a parole hearing in a month. The legal system isn’t some fast food drive thru, everything takes at least a month to be set up.”
“A month?!” he says, obviously shocked at the amount of time, “But I thought you had connections!”
“Be glad it’s only a month and not 5,” the old man responds in a condescending tone, “Hell, would you rather I tell them to nix the whole process right now? That can be arranged…”
The mystery man face sinks as he resigns himself. “No, that’s okay. I can wait a month…”
“Good. Now that that’s settled, please leave. I’d have far greater concerns than you at the moment,” says Hearford turning away from the chubby guy, and with that the mystery man exits out the door, not at all happy with the way that went.
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Only a few cars remain in the Madison Square Gardens parking garage, and soon one less as Johnny Dangerous opens up the door to his expensive Ferrari. He gives a long sigh as he begins to get in into the sports car, not happy with how his brutal match ended tonight in defeat.
Christ, how am I going to explain this away, he thinks goes to close the door… but a familiar voice reaches his ears.
“A month!? A MONTH?!” it whines nasally as the speaker reveals himself, walking across the parking garage towards his own car. Johnny squints for a moment, recognizing the voice but not quite believing who it is himself. But his eyes don’t betray him; it’s exactly who he thinks it is.
“HEY!” he calls out, and the chubby man suddenly freezes. He looks over at Johnny, his eyes wide before he turns to see Johnny looking at him from his car. Not knowing what else to do the mystery man panics and makes a break for it and Johnny gives chase! Of course, the mystery man doesn’t exactly know what he’s making a break for as he runs across the parking garage with a Super Spy in pursuit!
He looks for a way out desperately as his out-of-shape body begins to catch up with him, and Johnny begins to close the gap between the two. But nothing appears and the fat man quickly begins to slow down, panting hard as Johnny tackles him from behind and drives him to the hard concrete! Johnny quickly snaps on a hammerlock and pulls it back, getting a cry of pain from the fat man he kneels on top of.
“What are you doing here?!” he asks forcefully, pulling back on the arm.
“No-nothing! I swear!” he says, but a sharp yelp from the hammerlock being tightened.
“Then why did you run, damn it?!”
“Um, um-AH!”
“WHY ARE YOU HERE?”
“AH! OKAY! OKAY! I HAD TO SEE SOMEONE! That’s it, I swear!”
“Who?”
“Just a friend I know that works in production, I swear i-AHHHHHH!”
“You wouldn’t run if it unless someone I wasn’t supposed to know about. Who did you see?!”
“Okay, okay, I came to see Hearford! Judge Hearford!” the chubby man cries, and Johnny’s face turns of one of confusion and a bit of horror.
“Why?”
“Because we had a deal…”
“… What deal?”
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The sound of running footsteps echo throughout the twisting back hallways of the Garden as Johnny Dangerous runs at a full sprint through them. Fire is in his eyes as he turns around another corner, looking for one man:
William Hearford.
The bastard!
He hits a straightaway, passing a few confused production people left behind to clean up after the big show earlier.
How could he do something like this?!
He rushes further, almost to his target…
He’s going to pay…
Turning a final corner, his target is in sight: The locker room of Justice and Rule. Too enraged to stop for a moment and catch his breath, he burst through the door breathing heavily.
“WHY YOU-“
He starts, but he only stares at a slightly frightened custodian. The tired Super Spy leans up against the door frame as he stares at the janitor with blank eyes.
“Where is the Judge?”
“He left a few minutes ago to get a cab,” says the janitor, quickly gaining his wits, “He’s probably gone right now.”
With those words, Dangerous slumps down to the floor, leaning up against door jam. His face a mixture of anger and confusion as he thinks about what he was just told over and over again; He can’t believe it, but every time he looks at it it makes total sense.
You are going to pay for this Hearford. You are going to pay dearly for this.
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Indeed I'm sorry for the rematch, but I'm really hindered right now with the September slow period.
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Indeed. Testicular would be so much more fitting and painful.