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Corey_Lazarus

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  1. I agree. You like the long songs, and I don't see a purpose to proving to anybody that you can play long songs.
  2. ECW was fucking emotion. That's how I'd describe it. Because the wrestlers were presented as real people and not huge superheroes or demons from beyond, you felt for them. You could touch base with a lot of what was going on. Raven/Dreamer had the whole outcast vs. jock feel to it that so many people could identify with. Raven/Sandman with Raven turning Sandman's own son against him actually made ECW fans cry (and ECW fans back then were notorious for being heartless bastards). Dreamer/Dudley Boyz in '98 based on Buh Buh Ray and D-Von breaking Beulah's neck (Beulah McGillicutty was Dreamer's valet towards the end of the feud with Raven in '97 until she left in the summer of '98 to go back to college, and is Dreamer's real-life wife) was something everybody could feel: a man's love was stolen from him while he was powerless to do anything about it. If you went to an ECW show you left knowing that the wrestlers worked their hardest to make sure you were entertained. They didn't have huge corporate sponsors and shareholders to fall back on if they needed money. They needed to work for it. And all they really wanted from you while you were there was your respect. Knowing that they made you sit there and enjoy yourself and then want to come back again was their payment (which is a funny statement because it's especially true regarding ECW's end). It was professional wrestling for the people and by the people. If you went to an ECW show, you were a part of the show. It had that feel to it. ECW did more for their fans than any other company did at the time. CyberSlam was an annual show where the wrestlers would chat with the fans and put on a show. Think about that: an annual event where fans could meet the wrestlers and shake their hands before and after they worked. ECW was your corner deli. Sure, the food may not be as delicious as the meat down at the Stop & Shop, but the people there were nicer to you and didn't throw a sandwich together without any care for what you actually wanted. ECW was a fucking revolution in the wrestling industry, and without it Steve Austin would have been Chilly McFreeze, The Rock would have been happy-go-lucky Rocky Maivia, and Mick Foley...well, okay, Foley would still have been fucking weird and quirky.
  3. That's okay. The Midnight Movies of old are the cult classics of today.
  4. Entertainment is entirely subjective. My girlfriend hates Return of the Living Dead and can't stand Zombie Apocalypse, two things I love. I find Iron Chef to be pretty lame and am sick to fucking death of Tool, two things she loves. Whatever. I'll catch this on HBO as well. It'll prolly take me a few watches to truly appreciate, since I hated Napoleon Dynamite and didn't find it funny until the third time or so I watched it. I kept watching it because it was on when nothing else was, and I eventually liked it. Maybe Nacho will be the same.
  5. Yes...mediocre and crappy albums...personally I'd rather have all of my albums since my golden years just be "meh" than be "oh fuck, that's terrible." I'm not a fan of Divine Intervention, I think Diabolous in Musica sucks, and God Hates Us All showed a lot of promise. Kerry, Jeff, and Tom were fucking angry again. Christ Illusions has artwork done by the same guy that did the artwork on their trifecta of albums (Reign in Blood, South of Heaven, and Seasons in the Abyss), and "Cult" is actually a pretty good thrash metal song. I'm looking forward to it more than I am for anything Metallica could put out that wasn't an album covering NWOBHM bands and The Misfits. And it's not really that Justice is overly technical...it's that it's too long. There's songs that are long because they sound better long and make sense long ("Master of Puppets," "The Call of Ktulu," "Ride the Lightning," and "One")...and then there's length for no fucking reason, which is what most of Justice was. "Dyer's Eve" was the right idea for that album: short, to-the-point, heavy, and fucking angry. It was an angry album, written right after Cliff died to help them cope and to show that they weren't breaking up just because a member died. It didn't need songs that are 9 minutes long, most of which is just repeating the chorus over and over.
  6. Well, Kev, you and I were at the same show. Pretty damn solid show. Not the best show I've been to this year (that would be Bodom/Chimaira at Lupo's in March, IIRC), but a good show nonetheless. Thine Eyes Bleed I thought they showed some minor promise at first...then I heard the "chugga-chugga" bullshit. Okay, people, get the fuck away from that, it's annoying. Listen to some Acid Bath: they're breakdowns are HEAVY and they don't fall back on chugga-chugga. It's slowed down, as in a BREAK DOWN in the speed, and builds up. Singer had a decent amount of energy, but...meh. Forgettable band altogether. Mastodon You know...pretty boring live. I love 'em, but...they're pretty fucking boring live. Opened with "Iron Tusk" and then went right into "March of the Fire Ants," and closed with "Blood And Thunder." Played "Aqua Dementia" and I believe a song off their new album, but a pretty short set. Children of Bodom I'm pretty sure that the Lowell setlist was the same as the one you saw in Jersey, CB. I know they ended with "Downfall," the second song was "Needled 24/7," and there was no "Bodom After Midnight" or even "Warheart" to be heard. That sucks, since "Bodom After Midnight" is my favorite song by them. Alexi seemed really, REALLY fucking off tonight, and the opening melody to "Needled" was off by a second or two. That doesn't sound too bad, until you realize that one second RUINS A SONG. Worst time I've seen Bodom, and also my third. Not a big Bodom fan anyway, but they've done better the other two times I've seen them. A LOT better. Lamb of God Sucked. Went with my girlfriend and our friends Petone and Caitlin up to see Steph's friend Bobby at the food shack thingy near Section B, and hung out their for 3/4 of their set. Made fun of them by growling "waaah, my daddy hates me because I'm a faggot" a few times, and then went down to the floor so we could rush towards the front for Slayer. Had to sit through too many fucking Lamb of Ghey songs then (including "Redneck," which sucks like all of their tunes, and some song that Randy said is for all of the old-school metalheads...which I found hilarious since all of the old-school metalheads there were pissed that LoG was on the same bill as Slayer), and I'm so happy they're not on Sounds of the Underground this year. Slayer Worst time I've seen Slayer. Fifth time I've seen them. Again, everybody was pretty off tonight. Only on a couple of songs, but Tom didn't sing a whole lot. Setlist was similar to the Jersey show, just in a different order. It was (IIRC): South of Heaven Silent Scream War Ensemble Blood Red Cult Dead Skin Mask Disciple Seasons in the Abyss Raining Blood Hell Awaits Antichrist Angel of Death I'm not sure if they came out for an encore, but I don't think they did because we left during the start of "Angel of Death" to avoid traffic fucking us in the ass TOO bad, and the parking lot was flooded a minute or so after we got out there. There was some fucking 6'6" douchebag who looked like a huge junkie that was all "FUCK YOU, PUSSIES" because people on the side of the pit (which for Slayer turned into an "L" for some reason) weren't moshing, so he kept running into people. He'd shove people down while just walking by him, and this one kid who couldn't have been taller than 5'6" shoved back, so a small fight broke out...and the smaller kid pretty much had the bigger douchebag on the fucking ropes, so-to-speak. So the big guy just laughed, shook his hand, and the motherfucking UNDERTAKER* was there and just laughed. Big douchebag didn't try any shit when he was around him, haha. *The Undertaker is a staple of Massachusetts metal shows. He's a pretty tall guy, about as tall as the big douchebag if not an inch or two taller, with long hair that's pulled back into a braided ponytail and fangs. He wears a collared shirt with the sleeves tattered but not FULLY torn off, and is, in general, just a bad motherfucker in the pit. He's not like FSU where they'll just beatdown anybody they see fit, he just walks in the pit and shoves people around and helps a lot of people up. Overall, good show. Seeing The Misfits (well...Jerry, Robo, and Dez) this Friday in Somerville, so I have a feeling that's going to top last night. Sounds of the Underground with Cannibal Corpse, The Black Dahlia Murder, and Gwar in July, and then Strhess Tour with Shadows Fall, Suffocation, and Darkest Hour in August. Would've been going to Stuck Mojo tomorrow night in Maine, but my co-worker Mark took Tuesday off (which was my plan) so I can't make it.
  7. I hope Truth wins it. He deserves another run where he's booked as a champion. His first Heavyweight title win brought attention away from the X-Division, and has pretty much been the only thing to do that in TNA's existence besides Raven/Jarrett.
  8. I'm listening to it right now. Intro is still pretty good, very Black Album-esque with a hint of Justice...then it turns into "Fuel" redux. Opening "main" riff is played a little too long, slight variation that would sound SOOOO much better palm muted. Verse has some decent flow, similar to "Ain't My Bitch" in sound with a little bit of "Frantic" thrown in. Chorus is pretty lame (which is sad since Metallica's strongest part of the song is usually the chorus). Okay, I can't listen to it anymore. It sounds like a St. Anger song with a solo. That's all it is. A lot of promise here and there, but they resort to the same old "HEY, LET'S SAY 'FUCK OFF' TO PLAYING METAL AGAIN AND JUST START WRITING SOME BULLSHIT PSEUDO-GROOVE STUFF" that they've been churning-out since '95. Though I must say that the riff under the solo is pretty decent. Even if the solo sucks.
  9. Well, they could certainly get some more of the trippier moments of the film down VERY easily. Also, Below is the one that takes place in the WWII sub, aye? Or is it the one about a bunker that a bunch of partying teens get locked in?
  10. Sounds like Brotherhood would be better off as just an exhibition film about the child sex ring with the "revenge from beyond the grave" an afterthought. That's more horiffic: a bunch of pederasses making child snuff.
  11. Who would have thought 6 years ago that Kevin Nash would be squashing an entire division? ...oh, right...
  12. ...good for Double J. Now actually DEFEND TNA beyond Rhino. Because a lot of the things Heyman said about TNA - about them not building new talent despite their younger guys being so fucking over with their fans its incredible - is 100% right.
  13. That's why I don't care for Justice too much. It's just James riffing for the sake of riffing and not for the feel of the song. Kill gets away with it because it was their first full-length (and I'll forever feel that the slow "break" part of "The Four Horsemen," the Kirk-written solo, is completely unnecessary and just pure masturbation), but Puppets and Lightning had songs that were long but had a purpose and didn't drag. I JUST realized that "Fade to Black" was nearly 7 minutes long the other day. The years I've spent listening to it, and it's always just seemed to fly by. I think the only song off Justice that has the kind of flow that Lightning and Puppets had was "One," and maybe "Dyer's Eve." I'm a big fan of the closer. It doesn't get enough love. Probably their heaviest song, actually. But yeah. Load is a good rock album, but it's not a Metallica album. After the standard they set with the first 4, and even with The Black Album, to go to Load was just too big of a transition. At least Slayer slowed down gradually from Reign to Diabolous, and the new track "Cult" seems like a decent-enough return to early 90's Slayer. Only, you know, with the awesomeness of Lombardo's drumming (I always give him the BJ when it comes to listing favorite drummers). I hope the new album is at least on par with Load. That's it.
  14. FNM's cover of it really is pretty damn good. Dunno if it's better than Sabbath's, but it's definitely on par.
  15. Nah. Not enough robots or alien demons.
  16. Fuck...after Puppets they wandered far afield.
  17. You know, I don't know why. They're too borderline of a hardcore band, though. Some of their songs are straight-up speed/thrash metal, and others are just pure hardcore (most of Bigger Than The Devil, for example). At least with Shadows Fall and Sepultura (both of whom I nominated) the metal sides shine while the hardcore influence is present but not overpowering (though in Sepultura's case, I suppose their influence on hardcore is bigger than hardcore's influence on them).
  18. But my argument was that he knew next-to-nothing, and my evidence was his points.
  19. Iron Maiden vs. Iced Earth The original is always better than the knockoff. Sepultura vs. Megadeth There's really one Megadeth album I can listen to in full, despite their impact and Dave's talent. Pantera vs. Dream Theater Partially for nostalgic purposes due to Dime's death, partially because I hate guitar wankery that has no purpose. Judas Priest vs. Helloween I'm a bigger Helloween fan than I am a Priest fan, but Priest and Sabbath and Maiden are the trifecta of old-school British metal. Black Sabbath vs. In Flames Fuck Gothenburg. And fuck everything after Clayman, too. Slayer vs. Ozzy Osbourne I'm really sick of everybody creaming themselves over Ozzy's solo career. It sucked outside of a few songs, Randy Rhoades is overrated, and there's a reason Ozzy resorted to a reality TV show to regain popularity. Metallica vs. Emperor Mostly because I can't get into black metal, since St. Anger was inexcusable. Motörhead vs. Anthrax Lemmy is God. Belladonna sucks. SOD > Anthrax. 'Nuff said.
  20. No, really?! Entertainers put on a show?! NO FUCKING WAY!!! And no, it's not really worth it, but when you talk about a style of music you know so little about as if you were some fucking expert, then yeah it needs to be done. Well, that's when I really got into metal, too. I was 14 when Slipknot first came out with "Wait and Bleed." I went through a Slipknot phase, even. Doesn't mean I didn't know they weren't true metal (though if there was ever a nu-metal band that caused controversy over whether or not they were actually metal, Slipknot was it). No shit. Gore metal shouldn't be taken seriously, it's a joke. And I think Tack would have something to say about death metal not being serious. Ahem...ANY death metal you listen to was influenced by thrash. NWOBHM > Speed Metal > Thrash Metal > Death Metal. If you're listening to a band because of nothing but the vocals, you're listening for the wrong reasons. And Overkill fucking sucks anyway. I never said you could tell fashioncore bands apart. I'm glad you keep thinking I'm all about fashioncore, despite me always listing SOD and The Haunted (note: THRASH BANDS) among my favorite bands.
  21. Eh, to each their own.
  22. Yeah, it is, but so is every other thread in this folder, or the entire forum, for that matter. Fuck, I think the only debates/arguments/etc. that actually do have any bearing beyond "my dick is bigger than yours" would be some of the ones in Current Events. Still doesn't stop J0bber from knowing a whole fuck lotta nothing about a style of music I've loved and cherished for as long as I can remember.
  23. Has the last 24 hours just been pretty shitty for everybody?
  24. Classic: yes. But better than anything else at that time? Ehhhh...Maiden's owned Metallica in regards to great albums their entire career. And everything Metallica did was one-up'd by either Slayer or Megadeth. For pure speed and aggression? Slayer murders Metallica. Reign in Blood eats Master of Puppets for breakfast, and Slayer pits are a riot compared to a Metallica pit that involves a few shoves and some headbanging. For musical precision and instrumentation? Dave Mustaine has 'em beat by himself. Megadeth may not have been as popular as Metallica, but Metallica wouldn't have been the same if it weren't for Dave heavily, HEAVILY influencing their direction before James and Lars booted him. I agree fully. If Metallica had called it quits following Justice and just changed their name, maybe gotten rid of Kirk and Jason and gotten two new members, nobody would really have a problem. The best bands never last for much longer than 10 years initially, anyway.
  25. FACT: The first CD I ever owned was White Zombie's Astro-Creep 2000. FACT: I was learning Slayer and 80's Metallica songs on my guitar before I even knew who the fuck Slipknot, KoRn, or Limp Bizkit were. FACT: You are a stupid fuckwad. Dude, you really think I'm just one of those "metalcore" bandwagon kids, eh? Oh, so I guess listening to metal since I grew my pubes in, having 200+ CDs chronicling multiple styles of the genre, and being one of the only TSM'ers that have been one of the "TSM Metalheads" since TSM started makes me a fashioncore wannabe bandwagoner. ...yeah, and I guess that means Journey is metal. I mean, they had long hair! And distorted guitars! And solo's, dude! It takes more to be a metal band than Drop-D and palm muting, dumbass. Nu-metal is just pseudo-grunge with screams about how much the overprivileged youth of the nation hate their yuppie parents instead of muttering. Weed replaced heroin, Hot Topic replaced the local thrift shop, and looking like a fucking clown replaced looking like a lumberjack. Also...what the fuck? "Far more revolutionary"?! Coal Chamber ripped off KoRn (who just ripped off Helmet), Mushroomhead is basically one big Mike Patton love afair with some Ministry thrown in (listen to Mushroomhead, and then listen to Mr. Bungle and Patton-era Faith No More, and you'll see what the fuck I mean), Slipknot is a weak-ass wannabe version of Sepultura and Slayer that stole Mushroomhead's gimmick (the original Mushroomhead masks were eerily similar to the original Slipknot ones, and Mushroomhead predates Slipknot by a few years), and Marilyn Manson just took his favorite elements of KISS and Alice Cooper and tossed some New York Dolls and David Bowie into the mix. I won't deny that SOME of these bands produced some quality music (I've been trying to get my hands on some old-school Mushroomhead to no avail since I love XX and XIII ain't that bad, and Manson produced some quality hard rock up until Holy Wood), but there's a diamond in every rough. Just because one band happens to be good at playing a bastardization of another style of music, that doesn't mean that the music being played isn't a bastardization nonetheless. Nu-Metal bands (like Coal Chamber and Slipknot) are to REAL metal bands (like Iron Maiden and Exodus) what Pop-Punk bands (like Blink 182 and Simple Plan) are to REAL punk bands (like TSOL and Black Flag): a fucking corporate bastardization, simplified and watered-down to appeal to a larger market that has no idea what the meaning of the style even is. No, Sabbath really couldn't be. Ozzy did fucked up shit because he was playing to the stereotypes of rock n' roll, and constantly on a vast array of drugs. Sabbath, MUSICALLY, defined heavy metal: heavy distortion, dissonance, an overall sense of power in musical form, and doom. Heavy metal is meant to reflect the darker aspects of society as a whole, not "waah, my daddy raped me when I was 10 so now I'm scared of the dark." And, again, I fucking love Rob Zombie. Doesn't make his solo work metal, though. Some of it is metal (funny how you say "Demonoid Phenomenon," one of his weakest songs, and fail to mention killer tracks like "Superbeast," "American Nightmare," and even his latest single "American Witch"). Yeah, you are. You'd prolly prefer Soulfly's second album over Sepultura's classic Schizophrenia, too. Now, onto your second post... No, you said "than the bands" that are coming out today. Name me one band - one fucking band - that could fall into the nu-metal category that newer bands like Mastodon, High On Fire, or even Unearth aren't better than. Say what you will about Unearth, but Buz can fucking SHRED on guitar, and Trevor writes some damn decent lyrics. Much better than your generic Marilyn Manson "I do coke and worship Satan, but I'm not such a bad guy" message with faux-fascist overtones just to get a rise out of the religious right. And Mastodon...FUCK. If there's a single band you even listen to on a regular basis that can hold Mastodon's collective pubic hairs then I'd like to hear them. No. Nu-metal was the forerunner to today's "metal," or as I and a lot of others call it, fashioncore. Whiny, generic, and it sounds like a bunch of riffs pasted together with no rhyme or reason just to finish the song. I couldn't tell any nu-metal band apart from the other without seeing their pictures, and even then I saw fishnet shirts, poorly dyed black and purple hair (often long braids or short spikes), and your standard black Hot Topic faux-bondage pants with Doc Martens. Really? Which one? Because The Art of Balance sucked, the second half of Of One Blood lacks energy and drive, and Somber Eyes to the Sky suffers from terrible production. Listen to The War Within from start to finish and you'll see why Shadows Fall are the only young band that a lot of old-timers actually fucking respect. Somebody better go tell Exodus that, since they just released two of their best albums in the last couple of years. Somebody better go tell Slayer that, who are headlining the biggest metal tour in the States this year. Somebody better tell The Haunted that, since, you know, they're one of the most widely-known "newer" metal bands (and yeah, fucky, there's a reason "newer" is in quotes, so do some research). And as for SOD and Kreator and all of those other old-school thrash bands that are making somewhat of a comeback, even if it is post-mortem? Who the fuck needs them!? You're right, we don't. Fuck off, Susperia! Fuck you for trying to add some of that amazing black metal ambience to thrash metal! Eat shit, Darkest Hour, for even fucking THINKING you could do some 7-minute long heavy thrash-influenced epics! Hey, Bitchslicer, go lick your mother's taint! You too, Despotic Robot, we don't need your fucking jazzy improv and grindcore insanity to be added to thrash metal! Every Time I Die is pretty good. I'm surprised you like them. Dillinger Escape Plan, though, is atrocious. If you like a band that just tries to fit as many annoying riffs into one song as possible, go ahead and listen to them. They're talented, though, I can't take that away from them, but they're music sorta, you know...sucks. Are you seeing my point yet, J0bber? Thus far you have proven to know about 5% as much about metal as a style as I do...and I'm one of the LESS KNOWLEDGABLE posters here when it comes to heavy metal.
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