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This couldn't have gone in EITHER of the other threads on this same topic? Sheesh... Yes, I still think he has a chance. Pulling out Guliani for the VP would be smart to win New York, and most of the "barely Kerry" states could go to Bush easily. Hell, Maryland is traditionally Democrat but after electing our first Republican governor in over 40 years as a result of a weak Democrat on the ballot, I'm hoping we can pull it off again.

Wait a minute. What? [quote name=INXS' date='Jul 23 2004, 04:33 PM] Is it clear now?

Surely, you've saved a Cabinet position for me? Hell, I could even be the National Security Advisor since I'm one of the only posters you can trust since I don't hate you and all! I nominate KKK for Attorney General.

You misunderstood me (well, it was a very poorly constructed thought, so my fault). I meant Lee Ving's vocals (on the original MD 45 cd) sound a lot like Blaze Bayley to me. He's not actually on it. Sorry for the confusion!

Orton. Call it a hunch.

Positive spin: Benoit goes 3 straight wins over HHH without giving him the win and title back. If they really are going with Orton, I think it's a good choice. I don't know if he's ready, but it's obvious they want to do HHH/Orton at WMXI, but this is a reversal of the expected roles obviously. They did the same thing with Brock 2 years ago giving him the title a little before he was ready but just on the verge of gaining some popularity and it worked to a degree.

Um, ok. Not to distract from the Slayer discussion, but since it started as a Megadeth thread, and the re-releases are just days away, I wanted to know everyone else's thoughts on the MD 45 record, The Craving. I had never heard (or even heard of!) it untill I heard that Mustaine was re-releasing it along with the Megadeth albums, with all new voals by himself. So I picked up the album cheap, and I got to say I like it. It has a more punk feel, but it's still heavy, and I like Lee Ving's vocals which sound like a more gruff Mustaine (with a little Blaze Bayley of Iron Maiden fame!). Favorite tracks are Hell's Motel, Day The Music Died, Fight Hate and The Creed. My Town is pretty fun too. Anyone else have the album, and want to comment? Can't wait to hear it redone with Mustaine's vocals, I'm sure it will give it a much more familiar, Megadeth like feel.

Yeah, don't do that please. Regardless of how childish GreatOne is being. Childish? That's like my aforementioned example of Angle complaining about HHH's TV time lately.........................'Gee kettle, you're really BLACK today!!!!!!!' Are we still doing that ban nomination thing?

Yeah, don't do that please. Regardless of how childish GreatOne is being. Sorry, Great One reminds me of why I rarely post in this forum anymore...

No, I agreed with you about the Divashit. Hell I would have agreed with you overall a year ago. But I mean what the fuck do you want? Benoit and Edge playing Austin and Rock (something they clearly can't do at this time) taking turns beating down HHH? Hulk Hogan to show out of nowhere and job to Randy Orton? I mean christ you got a decent Edge/Orton match out of the deal and a fun little Jericho/Kane match. Average but not horrible as you say. I'm sorry you don't like HHH (this coming from a guy with the postername of a JEFF JARRETT catchphrase) but hey I don't like Big Show or Albert or ESPECIALLY the fact that Benoit had to carry Albert for ten minutes. That didn't really ruin seeing Matt Hardy (TWICE!~), Benoit, Cena, Team Angle or Los Guerreros for me. But hey whining's FUN right?! It's called a review, dick, not all of them are positive. I didn't enjoy a show I found boring and patronizing that I paid money to see. And I guess I HAVE to like HHH because you say so and there's no conceivable way I could like Jeff Jarret because you don't.

Ok, you're delusional and I see there's no point in arguing with you. I don't know where I even suggested I was boycotting next week's RAW. The point of my post was to express that I didn't feel I got my money's worth out of the show, but I guess according to you, I should shut up and enjoy whatever they put out because the paying customer has no right to complain if he's dis-satisfied. Sounds like you'd be a perfect fit in WWE...

I'd be more than happy to spare the Diva crap so we could have the iron man. The point was it took the wind out of the crowd knowing from the start we missed an epic, classic match by one week. And the IC title match, could have easily been combined with, say a hot 6 man of Eugene/Benoit/Regal vs. HHH/Batista/Flair but that didn't happen and we only had one quality match which was boring and silent for the first half anyway. I don't know what your last sentence means. The problem was they didn't provide a comparable show for us AND they announced it at the beginning. If they waited until the end of the show, it wouldn't have killed the crowd so bad, and by essentially saying "we'll save the money match for next week, you guys can have endless terrible Divas segments, Heat quality matches and shit finishes" its a slap in the face. No, I didn't love it. My friends and I have a great time trying to irk HHH with our chant every time he comes ever since it made some headway the first time we did it. And the final point is I didn't need to spend 50 bucks to hear HHH talk about farts and have strippers patronize us. I could have watched it at home on TV for free, and skipped through the boring parts.

Nope, but a 30 minute metro ride away.

Trust me, that wasn't it. We had our boos ready as each one started talking. The combination of sitting through that shit and knowing next week is the iron man really turned us.

This was probably the worst event I've ever attended and it was hard to be into anything. -Only dark match was some random jobber announced from local Bathesda, MD (yeah, right) vs. Rodney Mack. Mack got a big pop. Short shitty match that was basically a squash with Mack winning with a powerslam catching the jobber off the ropes. -Before Heat, Fink makes his announcement about how the lights will go off and pyro going off in just a second! And then nothing happens. Obviously told to kill some time, The Coach (who had come out with Al Snow at the Heat desk) grabs the mic and starts telling the crowd (well, tries...we were BOOING THE SHIT out of him) how we should feel privelaged to have the Coach there. Unmerciful heat. The Coach was WORKING the crowd. Finally, he has enough and says "that's it, do you want me to leave?" HUGE POP. "Ok, I'm gone". And then he just sits down and the lights go out for Heat. No joke, Coach got the biggest reaction of the night. Al Snow got a loud "We Want Head" chant which he aknoledged. Heat: -Val Venis vs. Steven Richards. Neither guy was particularly over, this was your standard Heat match with Val getting a big pop for his win with the money shot. My chantings of "RTC" were lost on the mostly dead crowd. -Chuck Pulumbo (dressed like John Cena and wearing Converse shoes) vs. Maven. This match was BAD. Total clash in here, and it consisted of Maven throwing dropkicks, Pulumbo choking and a bunch of akward mistimes. Maven won, I think with a rollup or something. -Victoria vs. Jazz. Match of the night to that point and no joke the 2nd or 3rd best of the whole night. Both the girls were really working hard and pulled out a couple nice highspots like a Victoria dive to the outside. Steven Richards runs out in drag again to distract Jazz allowing her to be pinned by Victoria. RAW -Big pop for HHH's entrance. Although we were sitting in the mian concourse and not the floor this time, we started up the "You're Not Flair" chant again that go his attention last time and got mentioned in the Observer. I think he noticed us since he stared at us for a good 5 seconds and paused after saying something like he was going to say something else, but then continued and turned around and never looked at us again. We'll get you yet, HHH! -Then: THE ANNOUNCEMENT. Now, I know they want to hype a big match for the next week but COME THE FUCK ON! You don't know how dead the crowd died when Bischoff announced a 60 minute ironmatch between Benoit and HHH for NEXT WEEK. I couldn't believe it. We get stuck with this shit, Pitt gets 60 minute iron man match and we get 60 minutes of Diva search. Tremendous. This killed it dead and was something I kept lamenting about all night. Thanks, Vince, you fucking dick. The announcement of Big Dave getting the shot at Benoit got a big pop since Batista's a local boy. -We were actually really into Regal and the crowd was hot for him whipping HHH around the ring. We actually had a large "Regal" chant as he was being escorted out. -Sylvan Grenier vs. Tajiri. Tajiri telling us to chant "USA" got the desired response! The rest of the match was boring, and they blew a handspring spot that looked really stupid and then just stood there like idiots (im sure this was more Sylvan's fault though). Interference leads to Sylvan win. -When we saw them bringing out the set for the highlight reel, the place popped huge. DC loves Jericho. And then we saw the graphic....for the Divas Search contestants, and the place went SILENT. As if the next week announcement wasn't enough of a kick to the groin, this was just another punch in the stomach. The girls got a decent pop coming out which made me question the sanity of my surroundings but I was happy to hear each and every one upon introducal BOOOED LOUD. The only ones that got positive reactions were that 2004 Playboy girl and the last one they introduced. Then, as if this couldn't get any better, we find out Jericho is going to lead them backstage for a horrible Reality Show contest. So we sat for what felt like an hour in what is best described as a stunned silence mixed in with a few "boring" chants watching those idiot bimbos tear apart the office and gigle while Jericho egged them on. Bischoff got some pops for telling them to shutup though. Mission: Kill Crowd Dead, Accomplished. -Tomko vs. Hurricane. Why is Heat back on? After sitting through that abomination of a segment we're supposed to come back with THIS match? I don't think so. Stacy got her predictable reaction for her entrance to the ring, and Trish was getting some cheers but the crowd largely ignored this match. Rosey actually got a pop for running in at the end, and again my comment that he "looks like Aldo Montoya swallowed Kwang" was probably lost on the audience. There was a "Rosey" chant but good God, we were waiting to cheer ANYTHING at that point! -Benoit vs. Batista. Upon entrance, Benoit got a huge pop from the crowd, Batista's was much, much bigger. Batista is from DC and my GOODNESS is Big Dave over. "Ba-Ti-STa" chants the entire match. Try in vain as we might to chant "Let's Go Benoit", it was ignored and flooded out by the "Ba-Ti-Sta" chants. Benoit even had some booes for his comebacks. Great, the last time Benoit comes through here as champion (and maybe his last show as champion, the crowd booes him for BATISTA). Crowd HATED the finish with the DQ, it's like THROW US A FUCKING BONE HERE, we were actually into the match but I guess nothing can go right tonight. Batista bomb on Benoit got a maddening pop. I just gave up at that point. I couldn't even cheer Benoit... -Edge's interview was pretty funny, I'll give him that. -More Diva Search Commercials which were just met with apathy at this point. -Jericho vs. Kane. Gosh Kane's pyro gets me every time. It was going along decently and we they announced the countout it was just par for the course and the crowd was getting really agitated. Luckily they restarted it. Except I couldn't see shit for the rest of the match since they brawled through the other side and it was impossible to see through the crowd! Jericho used the boom camera as a weapon which was cool. Batista (DC's new god, he could run for mayor and win) shows up to help Kane win and plays to the crowd after who continue to worship him with chants and applause. -Coach is out who draws more heat, and OH JUST WHAT WE NEED MORE DIVA SEARCH!!!!!!! The mention of bikins does get the drunk, moronic crowd to pop, but they quickly turned on it again. This just fucking sucked. -Edge vs. Orton. And if it couldn't get any worse, the crowd was very pro-Edge. Orton had a few supporters here and there, but Edge was clearly the favorite. First half of the match was DEAD SILENCE. I think we had been bored so bad that we were just dead for the main event. I mean seriously, they were dying out there, and you could hear a pin drop. I tried an "RKO" chant but it went nowhere. FINALLY it got going in the second half of the match (including a brutal move which I've never seen before, where Orton backsuplexed Edge onto the exposed rind barrier. Ouch!) For the finishing sequence, the crowd finally woke up and got into it. Couple believable falls. I think EVERYONE thought the spear was it. This was the best part of the show since for the first time, everyone was into it. Edge wins (and even gives us a shot of his thong, just to make sure the night ends as badly as it had been). -They ended with the graphic for the iron man which just filled me with an empty rage. Only post show happenings were Edge grabbing JR's cowboy hat and acting like his IC title was a horse and galloping around the stage like an idiot which got the girlies to cheer. Then Lillian asks us to give it up for Randy Orton, who got booed, collapsed on the stage and cried again. I feel ya Rand, I wanted to collapse and cry too. What a disapointing night. The Diva search stuff was just excruciatingly bad and LONG and oh by the way, next week is the iron man match. My tape didn't go on even though I set it, so I don't know how it all came off on TV.

So, anyone else hear the new single "Die Dead Enough". I love it! It gets better each listen. Chris Polen's solos are ripping and there's a frantic double bass ending with "Die Dead Enough" being chanted that's so heavy. I know the whole album has leaked, but Im only listening to DDE since thats the released single. I will patiently wait to hear the rest of The System Has Failed when its out in Sept. Meanwhile, just about 1 more week until all the remixed/remsatered albums are released!

^^^^^^^^^^^^ And what are you asking anyway? You ask who we THINK WILL WIN, which is much different than "if we decided it". For instance, someone could choose Kerry as their choice, yet still admit they believe Bush will win. What a confusing and useless topic...

Thanks...I think?

I always thought it would be fun to send all the gangs, bikers and criminals out to fight our wars and let them get the job done...

Yeah I'm watching right now! I just wish it was actually listed as such on the digital cable. Well, at least it's airing this week!

AN EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW WITH THE MASTER OF THE "CANADIAN DESTROYER" PILEDRIVER: TEAM CANADA'S PETEY WILLIAMS! Big things come in small packages - and that's exactly the truth when it comes to Canadian superstar Petey Williams. In a little over four months since his debut in TNA, Williams has become one of the top X superstars in the world and currently uses one of the most devastating and innovative finishing moves in wrestling history - his amazing "Canadian Destroyer" flip piledriver. Recently, TNAwrestling.com contributor and TNA referee Andrew Thomas got a chance to sit down and talk to Petey Williams about his background, his role in TNA and so much more! AT: Thanks for joining us Petey Williams. First off, where were you born and raised? WILLIAMS: I was born in Windsor, Ontario, Canada. I grew up in Windsor, I live in Windsor and I’ll probably die in Windsor. It’s also right across the border from Detroit. AT: So you’re ALMOST American? (laughs) WILLIAMS: Hey – watch it! (laughs). But, I’ve pretty much wrestled in the U.S. eighty percent of my career so far. The other twenty percent was wrestling across Canada over the years, pretty much anywhere I could go. AT: Tell me about Windsor – what keeps you there and why do you love it so much? WILLIAMS: What keeps me there is family and friends. It also has one of the biggest bar and club districts in Canada along with casinos. It’s kind of the “place to be” in Canada these days. AT: Talk a little about your educational background WILLIAMS: I went to high school in Windsor, and went to a local college in Windsor for Law and Security. I graduated at the top of my class with a faculty academic award. After that I did another course on police work and graduated at the top of my class again. AT: What made you want to get into law enforcement as a career? WILLIAMS: Good question. When I was young growing up, I always wanted a job that was unpredictable and never the same. The police career didn’t work out, but I got the next best thing with wrestling. AT: So did you actually try to become a police officer? WILLIAMS: Yes, I applied. I applied for auxiliary officer and armored truck security. I didn’t get any interviews, though. I don’t know why I wasn’t hired, but I’m glad I wasn’t because I wouldn’t be in TNA or on television right now. AT: Would you consider wrestling a safer occupation than law enforcement? WILLIAMS: It depends. In law enforcement, you can take a job that will challenge you or you can be lazy and be desk security. It works both ways. I’m aggressive and ambitious, so I didn’t want to go in and drink coffee and eat donuts all day. I wanted to climb the ladder. That goes for wrestling as well. I could go out in the ring and be lazy, but I refuse to. What we do out in that ring is almost as dangerous as some professions in law enforcement. AT: Any sports in high school or college? WILLIAMS: I did basketball and football. I did amateur wrestling for one year and I found it boring. No offense to anyone who has an amateur wrestling background, but I wanted more. I was good at amateur wrestling, but it just wasn’t for me. AT: You can’t do flipping piledrivers in amateur wrestling, can you? (laughs) WILLIAMS: No, definitely no Canadian Destroyer piledrivers in amateur wrestling AT: So you got into wrestling three years ago – how did your family react to it? WILLIAMS: They weren’t really that supportive at first. It was kind of like “let’s give him a month or two and he’ll find out he won’t like it.”. But all through college, it’s what I wanted to do. Everyone said I couldn’t make it because I was too small. The one person who did support me was my girlfriend, who stuck with me through my training. When my career started to take off, it hit our relationship pretty hard because I was away so much without her. Out of everyone, she was the most supportive. But now that I’m with TNA, everyone always asks me about it. I’ll be walking down the street in Windsor or at the gym and people will come up and talk to me about TNA. AT: How do you feel about those friends and family that doubted you could make it in wrestling? WILLIAMS: You know who your true friends are when they stick with you. It’s hard to go out on the road and be in this sport without the support from everyone around you. Some of the guys who come out of the wrestling families had it easier, because they grew up around it with their family. People can think what they want, but I’m doing what I love. AT: How has the entire “Team Canada” experience in TNA been for you? WILLIAMS: I think it’s been great. I’m in a better position that I ever thought I would be in this early in my TNA career. I’m grateful for it. We get a great reaction from the crowd, it feels good. When you can make the fans hate you that much, I know I’m doing my job. We’ve really had two versions of Team Canada, the first being when we faced Team Mexico in the America’s X Cup for the first time. Now we have the revised version. The first team had Teddy Hart and Jack Evans. I thought that was a good group, but not as good as the team we have now. We’re in a great position and feuding with the top talent like America’s Most Wanted and 3Live Kru. Plus, I was just in a match on Impact against AJ Styles and Chris Sabin, so I never imagined I would be in this position. AT: Back in the 1980s and 1990s, wrestling was more of a big man’s sport, where today the future looks to be the daredevil X style. How does that apply to you and Team Canada? WILLIAMS: If you watched wrestling from the golden age of television, it was always about their characters. It was nothing like what we do in that ring now. We still build characters today, but it’s so much more about the pure athleticism of the sport. It’s great for guys like myself and AJ Styles. When I was a kid and I wanted to be a wrestler, I wanted to grow up and be 6’3’ and 250 pounds, but obviously that wasn’t the case for me. If the sport still went by the old standards, guys like me and the other X superstars wouldn’t be here entertaining the fans. I would probably end up being a referee because they were historically smaller. AT: Let’s talk about hockey….you a fan? WILLIAMS: Hockey is huge in Canada and in Detroit as well. So it’s just not a Canadian thing. But the best players ARE from Canada. Every Saturday me and my friends had to play street hockey – it was a ritual for us. I have a lot of friends who wanted to be hockey players when they were in high school, but it’s very expensive to get into. From the training to the equipment, it takes a lot of cash and my parents didn’t have that kind of extra spending money. I kind of got the shaft on that, but it wasn’t a big deal. AT: Who’s your favorite team? WILLIAMS: The Toronto Maple Leafs now. For a while my favorite team was the Edmonton Oilers because Grant Fuhr was my favorite player and an awesome goalie. AT: You’ve been in wrestling or three years now – where do you see yourself in another three years in this sport? WILLIAMS: You know – I honestly can’t say. I certainly hope it’s with TNA and we’re helping to make things interesting competing with WWE. I hope I’m still doing the X style, because I love it. But you never know. Three years ago if you asked me I would have never imagined myself on Pay-Per-View. So where we’ll all be in another three years is so hard to say. AT: Last question. You were of course trained by Team Canada coach Scott D’Amore . Tell us, just how hairy is his back? WILLIAMS: (laughs) Have you seen the movie “Along Came Polly” with Ben Stiller where he plays that big hairy guy in a game of basketball…and the guy just wipes his nasty hair and sweat all over Stiller as they’re playing? AT: Can’t say I’ve seen it. WILLIAMS: Well, it’s much worse than that with Scott, trust me (laughs) AT: Thanks for the interview, Petey! WILIAMS: No problem.

07.15.04 | ESPN CLASSIC CANADA TO AIR TNA! ESPN Classic Canada to Televise TNA Wrestling Nashville, TN (July 16, 2004) – TNA Entertainment ,LLC announced today it has signed a new one-year deal with ESPN Classic Canada providing the network with complete access to Total Nonstop Action Wrestling’s pay-per-view programming library. ESPN Classic Canada will televise the entire TNA Wrestling collection, chronologically, every Wednesday from 6 p.m. to 8 p.m. ET (encores at 12 midnight ET, and Thursdays at 6 a.m. ET and 4 p.m. ET). The ringside action premieres Wednesday, Aug. 4 at 6 p.m. ET with TNA Wrestling’s first ever pay-per-view event from June 2002. "TNA Wrestling's popularity continues to grow around the world, especially in Canada,” said Dixie Carter, President, TNA Entertainment. “We’re thrilled to have ESPN Classic Canada as a partner." “Our new deal with TNA Entertainment offers wrestling fans a rare chance to revisit the birth of one of the sport’s most exciting and intense divisions,” said Phil Piazza, Director, ESPN Classic Canada. “It’s a perfect fit for our network’s Wednesday night wrestling lineup.” TNA Wrestling’s diverse roster includes such squared circle luminaries as three-time NWA World Heavyweight Champion Jeff Jarrett, veteran grappler Dusty Rhodes and ‘The Most Hated Man in America’ Jonny Fairplay of Survivor: Pearl Islands fame. Country music superstar Toby Keith, actor/comedian Chris Rock, NFL Pro-Bowler Brian Urlacher and NASCAR drivers Hermie Sadler and Sterling Marlin have made celebrity appearances during TNA Wrestling events. Wrestling legends Dory Funk Jr., Harley Race, Jackie Fargo, Ricky ‘The Dragon’ Steamboat and ‘Bullet’ Bob Armstrong have also appeared. The alternative for the true wrestling fan, Total Nonstop Action Wrestling prides itself on delivering quality, family programming that is clean, innovative, cutting edge and with the high-risk, high-flying athleticism that TNA Wrestling is known for. Available on pay-per-view every Wednesday night at 8 p.m. ET/5 p.m. PT on, iN DEMAND, and TVN as well as Viewer’s Choice, Bell ExpressVu and Shaw PPV in Canada. Total Nonstop Action Wrestling “Impact!” on Fridays at 3 p.m. on Fox Sports Net (check local listings). ESPN Classic Canada, where the legends come to play, features great individual performances, controversial victories, huge upsets, momentous comebacks and unforgettable team dynasties. ESPN Classic Canada has encore broadcasts of the most cherished classic games and moments from the world of sports. The network has all the bases covered with baseball, basketball, hockey, football, curling, golf, wrestling, boxing, soccer, tennis, skating, Reel Classics sports movies and much more. ESPN Classic Canada's Web site is located at www.tsn.ca/classic.

So, anyone have any thoughts? I'm shocked she got prison time actually. I think punishing white collar criminals with jail time is a waste of money and space and that fines and house arrest would be more effective. Jail should be used to protect society from violent people who cause harm. I don't think locking Martha Stewart up is exactly in the public's best interests, but oh well. (and before any of you hippies start yapping about how it's only fair that white collar criminals get jail time, I have the same stance about petty drug abusers, in that we shouldn't be wasting our jail cells on them, and that's an argument I have heard many times). Anyway here's the article, Martha's says she'll be back bah god!

n/m it appears to be on. The digital cable just listed Poker instead. God I hate this confusion shit...

Glad to see the graphics added, good work ma boy! There's one with Jeff Hardy up, and 2 split graphics for the 6 sided cage match. Now hop to it...hop, I say! This was a card when they were running it down that I thought "eh, I can skip it"...and then they said it....SIX SIDED CAGE. Oh man, this is gonna be awesome. Plus Lynn/Styles vs. Kazarian/Shane makes it a lock fulfilling my "2 match rule" (2 matches I really want to see make it an order). Plus the Kid Kash interview could be VERY interesting if they decide to go worked shoot as rumored, and hey that wacky Jeff Hardy will be there too! TNA's been hot, let's see if they can keep the streak going...