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Top 5 Punk O Rama comps: Punk O Rama III Punk O Rama V Punk O Rama II Punk O Rama VI Punk O Rama I

I thought the same thing. Its interesting that two oasis albums made the list. It is even more intresting that Defenitly Maybe is before Morning Glory

I think one of the reasons this match was so highly praised at the time was because most of the smark community was sick and tired of face Stone Cold. Meanwhile, HHH was at the top ofhis badass heel stint. I remember making out like hell for that reason.

Why are you underwhelmed?

When season 8 comes out on DVD, I hope that in the mini commentaries explain why these episodes are so shitty. Trey has a lot of explaining to do. I am hoping that Trey is not actually writing these episodes. Hopefully he is just letting someone else write them and he stamps his name on it and collects a check. If he is actually writing them, I have a lots a huge amount of respect for him as a writer. I used to consider him a genius, but not anymore. South Park is a shell of what it once was. It is no longer honest or satirical. Now, it is just parody and farce. I hate to say this, but parallels between the degradation of the Simpsons and the beginnings of the degradation of South Park are uncanny.

Me too. Once I saw the real thing....wow...amazing

Sterling, where do you get this term "skate punk"? Can you be a little bit more specific about this sub-genre. I have done a lot of reading and have not come across it. I am curious because I am doing writing my senoir thesis on the social history of the punk rock movement.

I found it difficult to dispend my disbelief as well. That happens frequently with movies about the Ancient era of world history .

I work at a video store and it is sad how many people want Full Screen. We sell muc more FS than WS. Whenever someone asks for FS, "you IDIOT" runs through my mind over and over again. What is most sad is that these morons seem very passionate about thier choice in FS.

NOFX albums: 1. SLATFATS 2. Punk in Drublic 3. White Trash 4. Errorism 5. Zoo 6. Valuum 7. Ribbed 8. S & M 9. Liberal Animation I heard they suck live, 45 or 46, and The Longest Line EP are awesome as well but dont count as actual albums. You heard thier new greatest hits album? I havnt picked it up yet but there is a new track on it. I have read the track listing.....its OK...they could have done better. As for BR, I would concede to the argument that Against the Grain should be on the list. As as overall album, it probably is better than recipe for Hate. RFH is actually quite a hit or miss album. Hits - American Jesus, Recipe for Hate, Skyscraper, Lookin in, Watch it Die. Misses - Kerosene, Portrait of Authority, My Poor Friend Me. Its just that the hits are so awesome. Gimme your top 5 BR albums. Lagwagon - Solid as hell. I am a Lets Talk about Feelings fan. No Use - Awesome. One of the best live acts I have ever seen. More betterness and Leche con Carne are fantastic albums. Thier last album, Hard Rock Bottom, was a huge let down, but I have confidence that they can rebound. Thier cover songs on each album are very well done. MxPx - dont know them at all. all I have heard is a few songs on comps. And people have told me that they are a straight edge christain punk band. Vandals - Awesome. Hitler Bad, Vandals Good is a kick ass album. I saw them live at Warped tour this year. They were excellent.

I forgot to mention my favorite non-Decline NOFX song: We Threw Gasoline on the Fire and Now We Have Stumps for Arms and No Eyebrows. I think that is the title. It is something simmilar to that. It was originally on Punk O Rama 3, but now it is on 45 or 46 as well. I really really like it when punkers comment on the punk rock movement and when happened to it. I especially like this song because Fat Mike puts some of the blame on himself and talks about what he did wrong. And the music for the song is fucking amazing. I really consider this song, as well as Jaw, Knee, Music (off Rock Against Bush I), as memoirs from Fat Mike, which for me, make them very personal and interesting. And regarding your "joke tunes" comment: I agree, thier last few albums have hurt some of thier credability. But I think that most of the joke tunes have some very good points to make: Clams Have Feelings Too - animal rights My Vagina - transgender rights Heroajuna - the failing drug war She's Nubs - the idea that anyone at all can be punk. punk is not a exclusive thing We Got 2 Jealous Agains - this is one of my all time favorite love songs Mattersville, Theme from a NOFX album, 13 stiches - memoir songs as mentioned earlier Anarchy Camp - the 2 party system is so dominant that other political ideas are off the map to the point of being in the "woods" Hobophobic - the way homeless people are treated There are some that have no relevance, but I think that even the funny ones have good commentary.

Yeah I do. I have thought a lot about it, and right now, I consider it my favorite Bad Religion album. You just can't beat songs like Sinister Rouge, God's Love, Beyond Electric Dreams, and Let Them Eat War. This is probably an unpopular decision among most BR fans, who would probably say No Control or Suffer as thier favorite, but I am most into thier more recent progressive stuff. (I would put The Process of Belief as my second favorite BR album.) It is so difficult comparing eras of BR music. The band and thier music have changed so much and I love all the music that has come with those changes. Like we were talking earlier on Green Day: being an artist is about growth and progress and I think BR illustrates that point perfectly. (I am even a fan of the Atlantic years, and specifically, No Substance, which is widely regared as the worst BR album, even by Graffin himself) Don't get me wrong though, I love thier old stuff as well. I think that they wrote some of the most epic and important music to come out of the early 90s. I consider Greg Graffin to me one of the most influential people on me as a person and an artist. I look at his stuff objectively, but his melding of thought, insight, and poetry is amazing along with his talent at song writing. My top 5 BR albums: The Empire Strikes First, The Process of Belief, No Control, Suffer, Recipe for Hate.

NOFX are my second favorite punk band. I disagree about them being fun when you are fourteen. Fatty writes some of the most progressive and complicated music within the genre. I think they get comments like "fun when 14" because he often writes funny lyrics. There is no denying how much influence they have had on up and coming bands within the california punk scene. I think that most punk singers try and immitate Fattys vocal style. Some of my favorte songs are The Death of John Smith, Falling in Love, Happy Guy, and We Got 2 Jealous Agains. But more than any other song, I think that anyone who wants to have a legitimate opinion on the punk rock scene needs to hear The Decline. It epitomizes so many things that I love about music. It is extremely poetic and beautiful to listen to and it motivates me as a person. Whether you like it or not, you should at least know that it exists. It deserves having an opinion on.

They are pretty good. I think that they often get a bad wrap because they are on Epitaph and are not really a punk band.

Who is that in your sig?

I think Insomniac is the second best Green Day album, behind American Idiot.

I am going to back up Syxx again here and to sum up my feelings on this Green Day conversation say: I can't fathom how poeple who appreciate well composed music cannot at least apperciate how well written the songs are. I think that the people who made the original comments on the CD have not sat down and listened to it straight through. Any fan of dramatic, emotional music can at least appreciate that this album was written. And I cannot agree enough with Syxx's "evolution" comments. Being an artist is about growth and progress.

50 additional minutes. That puts the movie at over 4 hours

Other than AI being album of the year, I completely agree with this statement. More "can't fathom not liking" songs are Homecoming (which I perfer to Jesus) and Whatsername. My favorite song on the album is Holiday.

Kenny Mayne. Why does he do nothing but horse races these days?

I quote Tommy Boy and the South Park movie quite a bit.

I agree. That was a horrible tour for a shitty album. For me, I'd say Leo Kottke. Ilike his music, but his show was shitty as shyte.

Thank you 5 moves of doom for mentioning Rage Against the Machine. I was shocked and disappointed that a two page thead on this topic had no mention of them on the first page. Rage was the best band to come out of the 90s. If I could choose between seeing the Beatles live or Rage live, I would choose Rage, and I like the Beatles more than I like colby cheese, and I LOVE colby cheese.

The first part of season 8 was a huge letdown. Hopefully Matt and Trey can turn it around for the second half.