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You forgot to put Kane/Undertaker on that list.

I personally like that WrestleMania XX card but it really remains to be seen how accurate it will turn out to be. This would mean: a) HHH is willing to go to a WrestleMania without a title b) Kurt Angle wins the WWE Title from Brock, and they ACTUALLY give Eddie Guerrero a Heavyweight Title Shot. c) They have RVD or Booker T win the IC title from Randy Orton. d) They actually give a fuck about the cruiserweights e) They actually remember they have a wrestler named Matt Hardy. -------------------------------------- They actually looks like a pretty sweet card. But I highly doubt some of that stuff will actually stick. Guess we'll have to see....

But you're forgetting about everything else. You're forgetting that Orton was probably told to center many of his moves on the ribs and add these submissions to the match. You're forgetting that Orton says HIMSELF that Van Dam had to help him through it, which means telling him when to do certain spots, when to grab offense back, etc. If Orton was as knocked dizzy as he says he was, Van Dam had a HUGE part in that match. But people look past that. Orton's moves looked good...? If we're to understand what he wrote, RVD told him when to execute the moves. And the leg scissors looked good? Personally, I thought it exposed that nothing was actually HAPPENING in the match, but to each their own. What exactly did Orton add to the match? That psycho look at the end? Yeah, he was fine that night. He's an okay worker. RVD brought him to an okay match. Orton ADMITS RVD brought him to an okay match. But let's continue to bash RVD anyway. I fail to see the logic in this.

That may explain why it was so bad. What it doesn't explain is why Orton was seemingly outperforming RVD. Nearly anytime, the person that gets the majority of the offense in a match looks the best. But then again, you're Van Dam-Hater #1, so I'm not expecting you to be too objective.

...... .....the man says it himself that RVD carried the match. Just because Van Dam might have told Randy when to start on his offense doesn't mean Orton carried it. He just said he had a concussion, and needed RVD to guide him!! If you liked the match, give Van Dam his props. If you didn't, don't. But don't say that Orton is wrong and he must have carried the match even though he was legitimately dizzy! Keep in mind that Van Dam has been in this business for YEARS. I think at this point he KNOWS how to wrestle a match, and can carry it if asked to. However I'm not shocked....the RVD-hate continues among certain posters around here.

I'm ok with it in say, this folder or in General. When it goes to the point where it's done in the WWE folder or the such, then it's just too much. Unless it's the guy who posted the pictures of the cats, that's fine. Eh, sometimes the quality of the posts requires one of those pictures. Ever see the "Make WWE Headlines" topic? You make designated posters and you'll be seeing more of that kind of garbage in the WWE Folder.

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Eh, has an evil sarcasm feel to it. Add a winking face and it instantly lights up the whole mood.

Well, 1Bob puts out several news items each day. That person would either have to be glued here to report every time Scherer or Ryder report a piece of news, or it would just go unreported here. Then, the board loses one of its main purposes as a result. And you said there should be a designated "One and Only" person for each show. Again, if that person were to go missing....would the topic just not get posted? You create a whole situation there that isn't needed. I understand what you're saying, but I don't think it would work positively around here...

Remove the emoticons....seriously do we even need them?? I think it's obvious that we DO!

Looking up previous topics is overrated anyway....

Terrible idea. Then: 1) You're assuming people here live to be on this message board instead of living their normal lives. They're not always going to be ready to reveal news with a few keyboard strokes and a click of the mouse. If the Torch releases news on confirmed WrestleMania matches, nobody here can know about it until the designated "Torch" person decides to write about it? You're not only hurting discussion, but you're keeping people uninformed perhaps of something huge in wrestling for what reason? 2) And the "One and Only" threads have never been a big problem around here. Again, what if someone *gasp* decides not to go near the computer one day? And he's the designated One and Only Raw Thread person. Does this mean we're not allowed to talk about Raw? I've never seen more than two "One and Only" threads up, and one usually gets deleted anyway. No big deal. 3) Finally, if you designate people, then we're going to have even MORE fluff in the WWE folder. "What's your favorite match of the year so far?", "Where is this storyline going?", "I hate Triple H/Goldberg/Big Show/Randy Orton......", etc. People won't be able to post actual NEWS so, if they want to start a topic, they'll have to put up garbage instead. Maybe the WWE folder needs to be cleaned up a little, but definitely not in that way.

Nice. Then after Urkel granted Christian the title shot for next Monday night, Randy Orton would get in his face. Wearing a football varsity jacket, he would walk up to Urkel and start yelling at him about how this isn't fair. Then, he would slap Urkel's books out of his hand and laugh and walk away as Urkel bent down to pick them up. The next week, Urkel would meet Orton in his locker room and tell him that in no way would Randy be leaving that night the Intercontinental champion. Randy says "Oh, yeah?", picks up Steve, and hangs him by his suspenders on a coat hook. Urkel would initially struggle to get out, but would eventually resign himself to being stuck in that spot for the night. Orton/Christian wrestle, with Orton retaining the title (WOW! Actual wrestling!) Then, we watch him go back into Steve's locker room and start boasting in his face. Right in his face, Orton uses his epic mic skills to call Urkel a "dumb, stupid nerd" to which every fan in the arena goes "OOOOOOOOH!" He gets ready to punch him in the face but a hand reaches out to grab him. Orton says "What the hell.....?", turns around....... and sees EDDIE WINSLOW STARING RIGHT INTO HIS EYES! Eddie punches Orton to the floor and lifts Steve off of the coat hook. Urkel then makes a match for the next Pay-Per-View. It will be RANDY ORTON vs. EDDIE WINSLOW for the Intercontinental Title and it will be refereed not by Urkel - being the GM of Raw, he's not allowed to take such an integral part in the matches - but will be refereed by the URKEL-BOT!! Shit, imagine the buyrate they could pop on that one~!

Perhaps this is just my opinion, but I would think this kind of thread was created for the sole purpose of hearing about people having a SHITTY year so far. Damaramu is depressed over starting out so sucky, so he wanted to hear about other people starting out with sucky years too. Misery loves company. I doubt hearing that somebody got a promotion or received a big gift is going to do anything towards making him feel better and will probably just depress him even more. Those kinds of things seem better represented in a "How is your year going so far?" kind of thread than "Is Anybody else's year starting off shitty?" So with that out of the way, I'd appreciate to hear everyone else's depressing stories about this year. This way, I can feel better about how shitty mine has started out.

And what's wrong with that? And to reiterate an argument that we've had a dozen times ... the player doesn't get to choose, so who fucking cares what Clemens wants to wear into the Hall? And at this point he's proven that he's not as loyal to the Yankees as he tried to portray. By signing with the Astros, he lost absolutely any right to dictate what cap he should enter the Hall of Fame in. At this point, he'll go in with a Red Sox cap, accept it, and like it. Or he could just not show up to his ceremony. I know I definitely won't lose sleep over it either way.

Wait......this means Hardcore Holly WON'T win the Heavyweight Title at the Royal Rumble? ........ ........ ........excuse me while I deal with my traumatic shock.

Right. But JR and Lawler are needed to sell all the storyline developments to an absurd degree. As good as the Cole/Tazz team might be, they don't deliver on the hyperbole as well as JR and Lawler do. With a lot of screaming about the Tanner family from JR, and comments on Michelle's developing breasts from Lawler, the angle is sure to draw some SERIOUS money.

I think Full House would work out quite well actually. If only.... *"No Chance in Hell" blares over the loudspeakers as Vince McMahon steps out to a chorus of boos. He strides down to ringside, grabs a microphone from Lillian Garcia, and climbs into the ring.* Vince McMahon: You know, this is it! I am tired of this garbage! I am tired of you Stone Cold. I am tired of you meddling in Bischoff's plans, which is why I had you sent away for the night! By orders of the Board of Directors, you are not to set foot in this building here tonight! Which means I'm the boss! ME ! I AM THE BOSS TONIGHT! NOBODY ELSE! Now that we have gotten that out of the way, it's time we get down to business. Starting with Goldberg. Goldberg, I don't like you, and I never have. YOU.....ARE.....FIR- What ever happened to predictibility? The milkman, the paperboy, evening TV. Everywhere you look , everywhere you go (there's a heart). There's a heart A hand to hold onto. Everywhere you look , everywhere you go. There's a face Of somebody who needs you. Eveywhere you look, When you're lost out there and you're all alone, A light is waiting to carry you home, Everywhere you look. Everywhere you look. JR: No gawd, that can't be! IT CAN'T BE! King: But it is! JR: IT'S JOEY ! JOEY FROM FULL HOUSE HAS COME TO WWE! Joey: ...... JR: LISTEN TO THIS EXCITED CROWD HERE IN SAN FRANCISCO! King: Well, of course. This man uses the same bridge as they do. Haven't you seen the opening credits? JR: THIS IS AMAZING! Vince: What the hell are you doing here? Joey: Whoa whoa whoa, Vince. CUT....IT....OUT! *fans erupt* Joey: I was sitting there listening to you drone on about you being the boss. Well, sir, you are no Tony Danza. Vince: No, I'm Vince McMahon, dammit. I am what I am! Joey: Well, blow me down! A-ga-ga-ga-ga-ga! *fans explode and start chanting "Joey! Joey!"* Joey: Vince, you love yourself so much. I can tell. I wouldn't be surprised if, in your pants, you got.....*looks around and pulls out chipmunk puppet*.....WOOD?! *the fans erupt once again* JR: By GAWD, THIS JOEY IS AMAZING! King: What charisma! Joey: But that's not why I came here tonight. I came here to tell you that your meddling days in WWE are over. They're finished. Because I'm tired of watching you ruin this sport. So, I'm here - and I'm here to stay! And I have backup! *Danny, Uncle Jesse, DJ, Stephanie, Michelle, Kimmy, and Comet all come out of the back and stand at the entranceway* Joey: Oh yes, we're here! And we will make your life, and YOUR FAMILY'S LIFE, a living hell. Because while you may have a wife, and your kids may have a mother - THEY....and YOU....do not have an Uncle Jesse! And you do NOT have a Joey! We're going to show you soon enough that the TANNER FAMILY is the supreme family of wrestling. Tell him Michelle! Michelle: Yeah Vince, you big poopiehead. *The whole crowd goes "Awwwwww" *They all walk out.* JR: Oh god, this is TRULY a new era of wrestling. WHAT KIND OF INSANITY WILL THE TANNER FAMILY BRING TO RAW?! FOLKS, YOU DO NOT WANT TO CHANGE THE CHANNEL!

My first thought on reading that topic line was "Oh shit. Will Jim Fassel even have a job next season?" A few weeks ago, he was the most sought after free-agent coach for the 2004 season. Now, all those teams that wanted him have filled up their coaching positions, and Fassel is left out in the cold. He really should have made a decision quickly before being pushed out of all these coaching spots.

I think I saw this article a few days ago. Just replace the name "Chris Benoit" with "John Cena." Face it, nobody knows at this point just WHO may be winning the Royal Rumble. Which is a great thing. But I have little doubt the winner will get spoiled before the PPV - these things have a tendency to happen....

Well, I must agree. The only reason I bought WWE originals was to hear that reference to New Jack.* In fact, afterwards, I bought a few extra of those CDs. Without the mention to New Jack, creatively, that album would just bomb. *By "bought", I mean "didn't buy" as in "I didn't buy that pathetic piece of shit album." Sorry for the confusion.

Or just throw him into an electrical circuit and give him Tourette's while he deals with his multiple characters. Hilarity would then ensue. Stephan: Stacy! Stacy Keibler! I know you want a piece of this sexy chocolate. Stacy: Yes. Yes I do. You are so charming Stephan. Stephan: Heh heh. I know. Well, listen, how about later, we go down to Chinatown and have some ch.....ch.....CH-CH-CH.... *face contorts* ch....ch....CH.....CHEESE?! *Stacy gasps and crowd erupts* Stephan: Sorry about that. I don't know what happened. I mean, did I.....did I.....d-d-d-d-d-d-did........ *starts squinting* DID I DO THAT?! *Crowd erupts again. Chants of "Urkel" and "Stephan" echo through the arena* Stacy: Aw, that's so sweet. Yes Steve, I will go out with you. *Crowd goes crazy* JR: By gawd, the nerd got the girl! The nerd got the girl! This TRULY is a new era of Raw! THINGS WILL NEVER BE THE SAME!!

Taken straight from the New York Post today: Roger's Quotes: March 1999: "I want to be a Yankee for life." October 28th, 1999: (After winning world series clincher from Braves) "I think I finally became a Yankee" April 2000: "I want to retire a Yankee." December 20th, 2002: "I don't anticipate playing past this year....I plan on going out the right way, like I always have, full-throttle. I want to win another championship. I enjoy those parades." June 2003: "I want to go in the Hall of Fame as a Yankee" October 4th, 2003 "I've accomplished everything there is to accomplish." October 21st, 2003: (Prior to Game 4 of the World Series) "I know that tomorrow will be my last start in the Majors." January 12th, 2004: "I don't know that I even did change my mind. It was just there, it was so good to do this." ---------------------------------------------------- Listen, just admit the man is a whore for publicity and a whore for money and we can move on. Fortunately, many Yankee fans have now realized what Jays, Red Sox, and Mets fans have known for years: The guy is just an asshole and only cares about himself. And for those that say he did this for his kids.....wouldn't STAYING HOME be what his kids want? I'm sure they'll be real appreciative while their dad is away on a 7-day roadtrip - AGAIN. He didn't even do this for his family! They don't need the money, and they don't need the fame. He did this to feed his own ego, and it's surprising that some people refuse to accept that. Hell, whatever. I'm happy Roger signed on with a National League ballclub. Because, as someone said before, now he'll have to hit. And if the Mets don't get him, somebody will. Which is what they call justice after all.

Sorry about that Damaramu. I can relate. On New Years Day, we found out a family friend was being checked into the hospital for a brain tumor. It was depressing for a couple of days, but we were told by the woman's husband that the tumor was malignant, and she would be fine and ready for rehab. They took her to a physical rehabilition center, and we were finally assured that everything would be fine. Then, we found out two days ago from another friend that they brought her back to the hospital. Apparently, she has lung cancer and the cancer cells spread to her brain. It wasn't said directly, but it's practically a guarantee she'll die soon - which makes it all the more crushing because we thought a few days ago that she would be okay. It's depressing to think that she's only 40-something, has a husband, has 2 kids in their teens, and she has to go through this. To make matters worse, my mom is going through a mild case of denial and keeps hoping that they'll find they made a mistake. Sucks. The whole lung cancer thing makes me think back to my uncle dying of lung cancer a year-and-a-half ago, and scares the shit out of me since both my parents smoked cigarettes for years. So yeah, you haven't been the only one starting off the year shitty. You can safely know that you have company right here.