rising up out of the back seat-nuh

What the hell's wrong with S Club? The trio of singles from Don't Stop Moving through Have You Ever to You is one of the finest runs of boy/girl pop music. They also did the great Reach, which is perfect pop music. And S Club Juniors/8 have had two truly great pop singles in New Direction and Fool No More, both of which stand up to any pop song I can think of. It's great catchy pop with no pretences. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it.

Heh heh. Skate punk is pop to a large degree. It's bubblegum, disposable music, often arrowed at the lowst rung. Nobody is going to consider any of these bands or albums as classics or deminal in the future. They're the soundtrack to a summer, but to expect it to change your life or to be your everything is just naive. And as for your arguement that few hip-hop songs are energetic and that it's all mainstream? Well, funnily enough, the energetic stuff is the alternative. For example, stuff like the much touted Madvillain and Deltron albums have more energy and passion in a slow rap than an album of fast skate punk. Energy doen't mean fast, it means filled with energy. Maybe that's where you're gong wrong. Listen to "Fix Up Look Sharp" by Dizzee Rascal for a perfect example of a slow rap that's energetic.

Okay, working my way slowly through what I've got. So far, I'm loving Papa M and Yo La Tengo, and seeing promise in The Shins.

Not had a chance to listen to it yet. I'll probably giv it a go tonight .

Yeah. I never liked that album. Smiths = good. Queen Is Dead = bad In spite of I Know Its Over, There Is A Light That Never Goes Out and Bigmouth Strikes Again, it's far down my list of albums to listen to. Much rather listen to the Singles compilation.

Got Pixies, Pumpkins and MBV covered, with SY on the download. Bang on!

Some good reccommendations by the look of things. I'll report back on them as soon as I finish d/ling. Of the stuff mentioned, I already own, and like, Deltron 3030, Dr Octagon, London Calling, Homogenic and like The Smiths (The Queen Is Dead sucks though). It looks as though Special K in particular got me.

I love the intro to "Could Well Be In" by The Streets.

The girl in Agent's sig should get with Henry Earl. Now that's I wedding I wanna go to.

I prefer anorexia. The x makes it sound cool.

Pribce good, but never got round to listening to anything outside the singles. Reccommend a solid album. Clash and FNM I've got covered. Clash I really like, but Mike Patton's done better stuff since leaving. Papa M's on download.

Your bad posts don't need to be pointed out. They've got a big old picture of Santa next to them.

Drugs are for pussies. Bulimia is the natural high that's cool to do.

I want to post at this board. Why the fuck wasn't I invited?

Okay, I've kinda run out of new stuff to listen to on my lunch breaks, so can people reccommend some stuff to me. Please don't feel offended if I call you a cunt for your appalling taste in music. Stuff I like: Broken Social Scene Madvillainy Radiohead Revolver Animal Collective Ikara Colt Manic Street Preachers Mechanical Animals Outkast Sigur Ros The Libertines Tindersticks Blur Mr Children Dan The Automator LCD Soundsystem Bloc Party Vitalic Endtroducing S Club Stuff I hate Encore Bon Jovi Robbie Williams R&B Blueberry Boat Nu Metal Ja Rule Renee Zellweger Oasis Skate Metal The Darkness

Get Madvillainy.

My arguement that you had the worst taste in music, was based on the idea that those five bands were your reccommended listening. Thankfully that's not the case. I still think skate punk sucks. I don't consider them punk, because punk to me is a completely different form of music, that has it's modern day roots in art rock or even emo or hip-hop. Music delivered with the maximum emotion and feeliing. Skate punk is closer to ska than punk, and has very littl in common with 70's punk than the look. While I appreciate your arguement that they have a punk attitude for not selling out, they also have a very linnear back catalogue with little artistic growth, which is just as bad IMHO. And how do you define selling out? Every band does it to some degree, even if it's just as putting the catchiest song as a single instead of the best one. When I talk about the diverse taste of skate punk fans, I mean that people are either skate punk fans, or don't like it. It's very rare that someone who is primarily an indie kid or hip-hop fan will like any skate punk at all. You either love it, to the point of dismissing most other forms of music out of hand, or are ambivalent. You may like other forms of music, but from my experience you're the exception rather than the rule. As for hip-hop and pop, again it generally sucks, but so does any popular form of music. That doesn't mean it can be discounted. The great artists, such as Jay-Z or Outkast, or great songs, such as Crazy In Love or Junior Senior's Move Your Feet, far outweigh anything the skate punk genre has thrown up. It's too restrained, there's no genre crossing. If I put on a Pennywise or NOFX album, I generally know what I'm going to hear. The things you're into can be found done far better by The Libertines or The Walkmen IMHO. It could be worse though. You could like Iron Maiden...

Can you give me a playlist so I can bung it on slsk tomorro?

Also, I find it great that Banky spent part of his birthday arguing that Run DMC weren't that good. Living the dream!

I disagree.

Madviliany is still album of the year for me. I got a new MP3 player and put it on straight away. I forgot how good it was. Also, Kylie greatest hits > Britney greatest hits.

Yeah Inc. Stop using facts to prove your point. And post your Swordfish Trombones link. And play Marbles. Bitch.

Skate punk is one of the most vacuous forms of music ever. The fact it's got it's own short-hand in sk8 shows it's aimed at people to dumb to spell a word of five letters. Sure it's a generalisation, and some of it's been done okay, but it's ultimately disposable music for disposable people. It's pop. It's in one ear and out the other. And it's not fucknig punk. NOFX and Pennywise are good. If you've never had any exposure to allternatie music of other types before. Emotionally, musically and lyrically they have no real depth when you compare it to the myriad of other bands out there. They're just shallow. I've heard a shitload of skate punk, and NOFX/Pennywise in my time (Portsmouth's a slacker town). I couldn't give you a critical analysis of those albums, all I could tell you is that I've heard them and no part of them made me want to hear them again. If I want fast bouncy music I'll listen to two tone, if I want catchy tunes with crap lyrics I'll listen to pop, if I want to listen to something alternative with energy, I'll listen to hip-hop, if I want something to dance to in a club I'll listen to drum & bass. Skate punk has nothing that other genres don't do better. Everybody I've ever met who's into skate punk and proud of it has had the worst taste in music. For example, I've never met anyone who like's skate punk and northern soul, or hip-hop, or pop. They all like crap eighties hair metal. Please explain to me why you like those bands, and I'll try and tip you off onto something better. I will cure you.

I'd even argue that Beastie Boys/Rubin did more for rap than Run DMC in the areas given.

Only just seen this thread. 1) Volta live > Sparta live 2) You have the worst taste in music if that's what you listen to.