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He actually started coming around in May.

Not really, no. Considering their rosters the past two years, the fact that they won the division again is quite remarkable.

I don't get how the first two Angle v. HBK matches went 20+ matches while this has four falls in 30 minutes. The match was okay, but there was too much resting by Angle. The ladder match was good but too short and had a horrible ending. The rest of the show was pretty bad.

The media praises the Braves because they deserve it. 3/5 of their rotation was injured, and they had to start rookie after rookie to fill in all the injury holes. They deserve all the praise they get.

Cinderella Man was a great movie for people who like one dimensionial characters and a constant bombardment of movie cliches. Not that I'm naming any names. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not really. The characters were wonderfully developed, the three big stars gave great performances and it told a great story. The boxing scenes were very well done as well. Howard did a great job capturing the Depression.

Bob Loblaw

Hmmm, I always thought Sportsnet carried the ESPN Int'l feed with Sutcliffe.

It's called the mute button, radio, or Sportsnet.

Well that will be a fun DVD.

I'd love Braves v. Red Sox, especially with the Boston connection. Both teams have bad bullpens, so the games would be unpredictable and interesting. Andruw v. Papi. Smoltz/Hudson v. Schilling/Boomer That would be a real fun World Series.

I actually did think Andruw should've been MVP until his medicore final month. Furcal was horrible to start the season, just like the rest of the offence besides Andruw. I think the Braves were even thinking of trading him at one point, since it's a contract year.

I don't think he should be MVP.

The Braves haven't even been in the World Series since 1999 and aside from the Yankees, have not faced any of the AL Teams in prior World Series.

Rafal Furcal didn't start contributing until July when the Braves were already playing well. Andruw carried the team through June when they were on the verge of flatlining.

It sounds like Gibson got a great farewell last night, which is always nice to see. I love Cornette too, I just don't get why they're bringing in a guy who cheats as much as he does, to enforce clean finishes.

I usually get Malcom and Harry Potter

Maybe the Yankees shouldn't have pulled their starters. Or gotten off to such a pretty bad start.

Why? Because we disagree. Jimmy was great on Weekend Update, and has been sorely underrated for his contributions to the desk. Tina gets all the attention because she has ovaries, but Jimmy contributed a lot to making the Fallon/Fey era successful. Tina was always better, but Jimmy more then held his own, and a lot of his bits were gold. The only arguments I've heard pro-Horatio is that it's something new. Big whoop. Why is new good, if it's so horrible? The guy has NO comedic timing and was an embarassment last night. He's awful. Sanz has no pros. There is no good to him sitting at the desk. None.

Looks like I can defintely watch Game 1 and I'll miss the first hour of Game 2.

I've listed a bunch of big ROH feuds they've had. In 2002-2003 they did have matches that existed just for people to clap at spots and all that, but they've evolved. The show drew because people wanted to see Punk kick Rave's ass in the cage match, since last time they met in Chicago, Rave blinded him and beat up his girlfriend. No, people want to see The Embassy get their asses kicked, and see Strong and Aries kick it. Isn't that wrestling? And no, no one would start a Four Horsemen chant. Again Rudo, you don't go to the shows. I agree the dueling chants are sometimes lame, and I hate people who cheer Cide, but you generalising a whole fanbase. ROH Fans don't suspend disbelief. They wouldn't do and chant the shit they do if they did.

Yes they do. Watch Punk v. Rave in the steel cage match. Or some stuff from the Lethal/Joe v. Rotts feud, Punk v. Aries. ROH fans can suspend their disbelief. And people have been raving about feuds in ROH since 2003 since the Raven-Punk feud. I don't understand how can you rip on the fanbase when you've never been to a show. And at the ROH Board, after every show there's always a thread where people complain about the behaviour of the fans and it gets annoying. Why let other people affect your enjoyment of a show? I mean I go to ROH shows to slap the wrestler's hand, go crazy for Nigel, call Lacey a whore, see my friends and see some good wrestling. Most ROH fans go to the show just to have a good time and good wrestling. Not with some grand notion of how to put themselves over.

O the irony

ROH earned its rep on the good wrestling and used it to draw people in with feuds. Now all the matches are usually based on storyline and feuds. Take the Punk v. Rave feud, that helped them draw huge numbers in Chicago for the blowoff. And the main selling point of 12/3 looks to be the War Games. CM Punk wasn't a heel his last night in ROH, and fans do suspend beliefs. You should see the Embassy.

Bitching about the fans, this sounds like a post at the ROH Message Board. No one has chanted You Fucked Up in forever. ROH DOES do feuds and storylines. Where have you been Rudo? Punk v. Rave Aries v. Shelley Embassy v. Gen Next Samoe Joe/Lethal v. Rottweilers Punk v. Gibson

KNK is right. Anytime Gabe tries to pull a surprise, it's always the obvious. Like with AJ's mystery opponent, everyone said Petey Williams, and who was it? If Cornette believes in clean finishes so much, then why does he cheat like a bitch anytime he's managing in ROH?